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CCP Rattati
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Posted - 2014.09.28 07:06:00 -
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Inquisitive players,
here is the list of changes that were deployed with Hotfix Delta, as well as proposed tweaks to Hotfix Delta to be deployed on Tuesday.
Scrambler Rifles - Increased Minimum Hipfire Kick per Shot
Scrambler Rifles - Increased Maximum Kick Hipfire Kick per Shot
Scrambler Rifles - Fire Delay set from 0.12 to 0.10, new effective ROF of 600
All Assault Scrambler Rifles - Reduced Max Dispersion
Gallente Rifles (Breach, Burst, Tactical, Assault) - Reduced ADS Kick
Tactical Assault Rifles - Decreased Minimum Hipfire Kick per Shot
Tactical Assault Rifles - Increased Maximum Kick Hipfire Kick per Sho
Tactical Assault Rifles - Reduced Hipfire Dispersion
Tactical Assault Rifles - Fire Delay set from 0.12 to 0.10, new effective ROF of 600
Breach Assault Rifles - Reduced ADS Dispersion
Breach Assault Rifles -Damage increased by 14%
Burst Assault Rifles - Damage increased by 2%
Burst Assault Rifles - Reduced Hipfire Kick Growth per Consecutive Shot
Combat Rifles - Increased Wait Time to zero Dispersion
Combat Rifles - Increased Max Dispersion
Assault Combat Rifles - Damage increased by 4%
Rail Rifles - Increased Hipfire Kick Growth per Consecutive Shot
Hotfix Delta GÇô Post Data review Tweaks and Fixes
Rifles
Assault Scrambler Rifles back to old ROF of 705, interval from 0.01 to 0.085
STD Assault Scrambler Rifle Effective Range to 8800
Increased Rail Rifle Hipfire Dispersion
Shots per Burst for Burst Assault Rifles changed to 4 from 3
Sidearms
Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4
Breach Scrambler Pistol Damage to 150 - 157.5 (STD/ADV)
Ion Pistol Damage to 55-57.75-60.64 (STD/ADV/PRO)
Specialist Flaylock to 3 shots per Clip from 2 shots per Clip
Flaylock Missile Radius to 1.75m
Heavy Weapons
Burst HMG Damage - 5% increase
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Kierkegaard Soren
THE HANDS OF DEATH
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Posted - 2014.09.28 07:30:00 -
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Great stuff. Quick question: you mentioned a STD assault scram; are we getting one of those in the near future?
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CCP Rattati
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.28 07:40:00 -
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Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Great stuff. Quick question: you mentioned a STD assault scram; are we getting one of those in the near future?
Fixed OP and no. 
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Kierkegaard Soren
THE HANDS OF DEATH
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Posted - 2014.09.28 07:45:00 -
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You ruined Christmas .
(But thanks for the clarification).
Dedicated Commando.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.28 08:00:00 -
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I am away from my ps3 currently. Increased rail rifle kick. Can you tell me a percentage increase, so I can properly gauge it in my mind?
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2014.09.28 09:54:00 -
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Quote:Ion Pistol Damage to 55-57.75-60.64 (STD/ADV/PRO)
Good god thats a 10-20% damage increase
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Francois Sanchez
What The French
Red Whines.
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Posted - 2014.09.28 10:22:00 -
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To me all those choice are good except the breach scrambler pistol one, it is indeed too powerful atm, but bringing it back to where it was before delta seems excessive, why not giving it something like 157.5/165? |
Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2014.09.28 10:39:00 -
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Francois Sanchez wrote:To me all those choice are good except the breach scrambler pistol one, it is indeed too powerful atm, but bringing it back to where it was before delta seems excessive, why not giving it something like 157.5/165?
150 is still 22 damage higher than pre-delta stats
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Evan Gotabor
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:04:00 -
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Then I guess "assaults dropships are in good place", am I wrong ?
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
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Posted - 2014.09.28 11:38:00 -
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Evan Gotabor wrote:Then I guess "assaults dropships are in good place", am I wrong ?
Quote:Detailed Rifle Changes
You're in the wrong thread at the very least
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.28 12:17:00 -
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DMG increase to burst hmg :o
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.28 12:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:DMG increase to burst hmg :o
Its efficiency dropped quite drastically following Delta, we want to bring it to a place between Charlie and Delta.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.28 12:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:DMG increase to burst hmg :o Its efficiency dropped quite drastically following Delta, we want to bring it to a place between Charlie and Delta.
Fair enough
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:34:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Kierkegaard Soren wrote:Great stuff. Quick question: you mentioned a STD assault scram; are we getting one of those in the near future? Fixed OP and no.
Is there any consideration toward a future return of standard variants such as those? If not, could you explain your thoughts/reasoning?
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Jebus McKing
lol Proto
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:40:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Inquisitive players,
here is the list of changes that were deployed with Hotfix Delta, as well as proposed tweaks to Hotfix Delta to be deployed on Tuesday.
Multiple small tweaks to parameters noone understands
Can we increase the clipsize of the TacAR a bit?
Currently the ACR has the lowest damage/clip of all the rifles (not including the TacAR) at ~1484 per clip. But the Min Assault bonus boosts this quite a bit.
Now the TacAR only has ~1310 damage/clip with no bonus to increase that damage.
Can we increase that clipsize to at least 20, (it will still have the lowest damage/clip of all the rifles) for a damage/clip of ~1456?
I think this change would make it much easier to use while not overpowering it.
I don't know what your data says, but I still have the feeling the TacAR could still need a very slight buff like that to make it perform on the same level as the other rifles.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.09.28 13:56:00 -
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ion pistol doesn't need a damage increase. you will break it.
Assault dropship changes?
The incubus w rails is very ineffective atm
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BatKing Deltor
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.09.28 15:36:00 -
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just to varify, does the hipfire kick apply to all rail rifles including the assault RR or just the base variants?
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Y-BLOCK
BioCyberDevelopment
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:01:00 -
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Hotfix Delta GÇô Post Data review Tweaks and Fixes
Rifles
When will these changes be implemented? & what about the Scrambler Rifle overheating issue?
Now that You've Tasted my Mutton.. How do you Like it!?!
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:14:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:ion pistol doesn't need a damage increase. you will break it.
Assault dropship changes?
The incubus w rails is very ineffective atm
The Ion Pistol is slightly subpar compared to the other sidearms. This will make it in line.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3730
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:17:00 -
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Y-BLOCK wrote:Hotfix Delta GÇô Post Data review Tweaks and Fixes
Rifles
When will these changes be implemented? & what about the Scrambler Rifle overheating issue?
The assault scrambler needs to be brought back to where it was before the overheat nerf. Otherwise it will continue to be useless.
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
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Posted - 2014.09.28 19:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Fixed OP and no.
Why not? Amarr loyalists who want to run basic scouts are in great need of it.
Also, consider lowering Breach Scrambler Pistol CPU. It's totally OTT and makes no sense compared to the other Scrambler Pistols and sidearms.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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Freinchutz Sniper
Blood Garden Nation
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Posted - 2014.09.28 19:29:00 -
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The Eristic wrote:
Also, consider lowering Breach Scrambler Pistol CPU. It's totally OTT and makes no sense compared to the other Scrambler Pistols and sidearms.
That's because it's better than other sidearms.Try using a breach Scrambler Pistol and you'll see that the CPU cost makes sense. |
CLONE ALPHA 001
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:04:00 -
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"Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4"
so if i am reading this right you are decreasing the rate of fire and also decreasing the charge up time?
or is this an increase to charge time ? |
Jebus McKing
lol Proto
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:27:00 -
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CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote:"Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4" so if i am reading this right you are decreasing the rate of fire and also decreasing the charge up time? or is this an increase to charge time ? edit in this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176136 you said " Bolt Pistol Fire Interval to 0.5 from 0.44444 " whats going on here please explain to me in plain english what you are doing to the bolt pistol as i am now confused! thankyou
CCP Rattati wrote:Multiple small tweaks to parameters noone understands
I'd like to know it too, but I guess it'll be easier to understand if we experience it for ourselves on tuesday. If that nerf is too much I think they can re-buff it easily.
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CLONE ALPHA 001
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:30:00 -
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Jebus McKing wrote:CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote:"Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4" so if i am reading this right you are decreasing the rate of fire and also decreasing the charge up time? or is this an increase to charge time ? edit in this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176136 you said " Bolt Pistol Fire Interval to 0.5 from 0.44444 " whats going on here please explain to me in plain english what you are doing to the bolt pistol as i am now confused! thankyou CCP Rattati wrote:Multiple small tweaks to parameters noone understands I'd like to know it too, but I guess it'll be easier to understand if we experience it for ourselves on tuesday. If that nerf is too much I think they can re-buff it easily.
yeh but i'm still confused as to what the exact changes are looks like a 10% decrease to ROF and a 10% decrease to fire delay / charge up time is my maths correct? also im talking about the bolt pistol not rifles i see in the hotfix delta google sheet where it says
CCP Rattati wrote:Multiple small tweaks to parameters noone understands
but im only asking about the bolt pistol. and no waiting to find out after the fix is not acceptable thats why im asking now so i can give feedback before the hotfix for the hotfix |
The Eristic
Dust 90210
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:52:00 -
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Freinchutz Sniper wrote:The Eristic wrote:
Also, consider lowering Breach Scrambler Pistol CPU. It's totally OTT and makes no sense compared to the other Scrambler Pistols and sidearms.
That's because it's better than other sidearms.Try using a breach Scrambler Pistol and you'll see that the CPU cost makes sense.
I've used it for ages. Now I can't fit it on any of my basic fittings. It was fine the way it was. Also, all the "new" sidearms were both improved AND had their fittings cut, as they were universally deemed too high. Now the Breach has had its PG doubled, CPU more than doubled, which puts it in the same range as the Scrambler RIFLE, just because it was buffed? Nonsense.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.29 01:41:00 -
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CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote:"Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4" so if i am reading this right you are decreasing the rate of fire and also decreasing the charge up time? or is this an increase to charge time ? edit in this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176136 you said " Bolt Pistol Fire Interval to 0.5 from 0.44444 " whats going on here please explain to me in plain english what you are doing to the bolt pistol as i am now confused! thankyou
Thanks, fixed the other OP typo, we are decreasing Bolt Pistol ROF.
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CLONE ALPHA 001
G.L.O.R.Y
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.29 02:06:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote:"Bolt Pistol ROF from 150 to 135, Fire Delay to 0.444 from 0.4" so if i am reading this right you are decreasing the rate of fire and also decreasing the charge up time? or is this an increase to charge time ? edit in this thread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176136 you said " Bolt Pistol Fire Interval to 0.5 from 0.44444 " whats going on here please explain to me in plain english what you are doing to the bolt pistol as i am now confused! thankyou Thanks, fixed the other OP typo, we are decreasing Bolt Pistol ROF.
could you please post exact numbers and also answer me this question.
"Bolt Pistol Fire Interval to 0.4444 from 0.4" is that an increase / longer or a decrease / faster to the charge time
and please post stats for bothe the militia and basic BP as i see they have different stats here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bqr2OKuQXCKrvx721n07xLb5VYmwvXEoftyNqRg3ew8/edit#gid=1473455608
thank you CCP Rattati
sorry to be so needy but i'm just slightly confused and would appreciate some clarity. |
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CCP Rattati
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.29 02:18:00 -
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no change to BP charge time
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.29 05:21:00 -
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Since the ADV Breach ScP is being brought down to where it should be, wouldn't it be a good time to bring back the PRO Breach and Burst ScPs?
For me, the draw of the Delta Breach is that it is actually worthwhile on a Proto fitting. I would definitely use the ADV version we have now (maybe with a slight damage reduction) at Proto ScP fitting requirements. |
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