DUST Search - XT-1 missiles still Overpowered.

Mejt0 wrote:

Derrith Erador wrote:

Black SlaverX wrote:

Derrith Erador wrote:

Black SlaverX wrote:

So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers.

We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them.

That is still not a counter argument.

splash damage has always meant OP if overdone. The forge had around half of the splash damage of these XT missiles, or small missiles in general and there was no denying that was OP. 400 splash is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for a non skillshot weapon.

Dropships are not hard to fly once you get the hang of it.

This is why nobody is offering a counterargument. All this sounds like is you're complaining.

And on the splash, I direct you to the response Alena posted. We have no zoom, we're at almost all times about 30-100 meters away from infantry, which look like a grain of sand. hitting an enemy directly is hard enough, splash is fine.

My suggestion is find cover from us, or get AV and do something about it.

Dont say that it looks like that. Its not as hard as you/other say.
I as average flyer can shoot down red dots with my ads (incu) from high and they arent ,,grain of sand,, size. While my friend as a good pilot can shoot down reds with missiles doing loopy loops,backflips,frontflips, any kind of flips there are.

Maybe splash radius is kinda okay. Damage however isnt quite okay.

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Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.09.27 22:44:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. Watch your back because I might be there.
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 3812	Posted - 2014.09.27 22:45:00 - [2] - Quote 20/0? When I ADS I kill one sniper then smash into a tower or the ground while I'm celebrating "War determines not who is right, but who is left." Closed Beta Vet Scout before it was cool
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2158	Posted - 2014.09.27 22:49:00 - [3] - Quote Infantry get what they ask for Still complain http://i.imgur.com/e3nY9BF.gif Dust was real! I was there!
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 1820	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:32:00 - [4] - Quote I want you to fit a suit with a compact nanohive. The rest doesn't matter. Now, enter a match and find yourself a nice quiet spot in your redline. Now toss down your compact nanohive. Look at how far the light from it goes before it fades out. That is the size of the splash radius of XT-1 missiles. We are hitting you from 50-100m away, with a splash that small, without having a zoom. That is why we get such a high splash damage. Listen to my muscle memory Contemplate what I've been clinging to Forty-six and two ahead of me
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3329	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:34:00 - [5] - Quote I'm not even an ADS pilot and I think you should HTFU. Tanker/Logi/Assault
Spademan Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3848	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:36:00 - [6] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Infantry get what they ask for Still complain http://i.imgur.com/e3nY9BF.gif This person is complaining. This person is infantry. Therefore, all infantry are complaining. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Tectonic Fusion 2245	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:37:00 - [7] - Quote It one hit KO's my cal scout if I don't run an enhanced reactive plate, but holy crap. (GIF)
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:38:00 - [8] - Quote So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. Watch your back because I might be there.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1561	Posted - 2014.09.27 23:42:00 - [9] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. I don't mind the splash damage and I'm a guy that fcking hates splash damage; but for an (A)DS it is necessary when going against infantry as it's nearly impossible to get a direct hit. So I don't mind an ADS getting 20+ kills, it's that 0 part that bothers me. I don't even care about destroying the dropship anymore, I just want to kill the person flying it but since how they're not kind enough to just get out and let me melee them to death I have to take that ADS down with them. So them being able to easily get away has always been the only problem I've had with them. Too bad we can't snipe them out of the pilot seat. We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Join us in our Pumpkin Crushing
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9568	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:00:00 - [10] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. I don't mind the splash damage and I'm a guy that fcking hates splash damage; but for an (A)DS it is necessary when going against infantry as it's nearly impossible to get a direct hit. So I don't mind an ADS getting 20+ kills, it's that 0 part that bothers me. I don't even care about destroying the dropship anymore, I just want to kill the person flying it but since how they're not kind enough to just get out and let me melee them to death I have to take that ADS down with them. So them being able to easily get away has always been the only problem I've had with them. Too bad we can't snipe them out of the pilot seat. A few days ago I managed to Nova Knife a dropship to death with the pilot still in it. I was standing right below him and he saw me. He then proceeded to try to squish me with his DS. I retaliated with my knives. The DS exploded with me next to it. I died, but I laughed sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1005	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:03:00 - [11] - Quote That's why they are 100k Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:34:00 - [12] - Quote Zindorak wrote: That's why they are 100k My rifle is 75k, can I get 300 splash damage because i can't aim? Watch your back because I might be there.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2746	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:39:00 - [13] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them. The preacher of Betty White, may her pimp hand guide me.
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2014.09.28 00:46:00 - [14] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them. That is still not a counter argument. splash damage has always meant OP if overdone. The forge had around half of the splash damage of these XT missiles, or small missiles in general and there was no denying that was OP. 400 splash is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for a non skillshot weapon. Dropships are not hard to fly once you get the hang of it. Watch your back because I might be there.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1005	Posted - 2014.09.28 01:03:00 - [15] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Zindorak wrote: That's why they are 100k My rifle is 75k, can I get 300 splash damage because i can't aim? Its really helpful though. That's like saying im using a rail rifle for the range Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2164	Posted - 2014.09.28 01:30:00 - [16] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Zindorak wrote: That's why they are 100k My rifle is 75k, can I get 300 splash damage because i can't aim? You can get 1.2k direct damage guaranteed at least 2x with a SL and only costs 40k. Dust was real! I was there!
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 105	Posted - 2014.09.28 01:35:00 - [17] - Quote Spademan wrote: Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Infantry get what they ask for Still complain http://i.imgur.com/e3nY9BF.gif This person is complaining. This person is infantry. Therefore, all infantry are complaining. It's almost like the exact same false equivalences (most) infantry players made about all vehicle users! Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2746	Posted - 2014.09.28 01:35:00 - [18] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them. That is still not a counter argument. splash damage has always meant OP if overdone. The forge had around half of the splash damage of these XT missiles, or small missiles in general and there was no denying that was OP. 400 splash is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for a non skillshot weapon. Dropships are not hard to fly once you get the hang of it. This is why nobody is offering a counterargument. All this sounds like is you're complaining. And on the splash, I direct you to the response Alena posted. We have no zoom, we're at almost all times about 30-100 meters away from infantry, which look like a grain of sand. hitting an enemy directly is hard enough, splash is fine. My suggestion is find cover from us, or get AV and do something about it. The preacher of Betty White, may her pimp hand guide me.
Mejt0 The Only Survivor. 470	Posted - 2014.09.28 02:11:00 - [19] - Quote Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them. That is still not a counter argument. splash damage has always meant OP if overdone. The forge had around half of the splash damage of these XT missiles, or small missiles in general and there was no denying that was OP. 400 splash is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for a non skillshot weapon. Dropships are not hard to fly once you get the hang of it. This is why nobody is offering a counterargument. All this sounds like is you're complaining. And on the splash, I direct you to the response Alena posted. We have no zoom, we're at almost all times about 30-100 meters away from infantry, which look like a grain of sand. hitting an enemy directly is hard enough, splash is fine. My suggestion is find cover from us, or get AV and do something about it. Dont say that it looks like that. Its not as hard as you/other say. I as average flyer can shoot down red dots with my ads (incu) from high and they arent ,,grain of sand,, size. While my friend as a good pilot can shoot down reds with missiles doing loopy loops,backflips,frontflips, any kind of flips there are. Maybe splash radius is kinda okay. Damage however isnt quite okay. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Miokai Zahou WarRavens Capital Punishment. 399	Posted - 2014.09.28 02:12:00 - [20] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. Get good scrub and HTFU. There addressed. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.

Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2747	Posted - 2014.09.28 02:25:00 - [21] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Derrith Erador wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: So no one adresses the argument eh? Crutchers. We're not addressing your argument because we think you're being an idiot. Not saying you are an idiot, but dang dude, you try flying them. That is still not a counter argument. splash damage has always meant OP if overdone. The forge had around half of the splash damage of these XT missiles, or small missiles in general and there was no denying that was OP. 400 splash is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for a non skillshot weapon. Dropships are not hard to fly once you get the hang of it. This is why nobody is offering a counterargument. All this sounds like is you're complaining. And on the splash, I direct you to the response Alena posted. We have no zoom, we're at almost all times about 30-100 meters away from infantry, which look like a grain of sand. hitting an enemy directly is hard enough, splash is fine. My suggestion is find cover from us, or get AV and do something about it. Dont say that it looks like that. Its not as hard as you/other say. I as average flyer can shoot down red dots with my ads (incu) from high and they arent ,,grain of sand,, size. While my friend as a good pilot can shoot down reds with missiles doing loopy loops,backflips,frontflips, any kind of flips there are. Maybe splash radius is kinda okay. Damage however isnt quite okay. On my TV it is. I'm poor and have a small screen. The preacher of Betty White, may her pimp hand guide me.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2464	Posted - 2014.09.28 02:37:00 - [22] - Quote What a terrible thread. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 356	Posted - 2014.09.28 02:52:00 - [23] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. 20/0 with a ADS? Sure thing you go and demonstrate that and after you lost like 20ADS in the previous matches you might get lucky to find morons who not run to a supply depot and changing out to swarms. We are not talking about just 1 guy but rather 3-4 at once cause they know that they will get a easy kill. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3667	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:01:00 - [24] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I'm not even an ADS pilot and I think you should HTFU. This. The problem wasn't their firepower. It was the ability to flee workout consequence. A Python trades tank for gank, plus, aiming is pretty damn hard on an ADS. If you really have problems with it, use AV to at least chase the thing away. GG & HTFU
Jaselyn Cabellos G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 105	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:40:00 - [25] - Quote You have no right to complain. Such a Noob smh Flying Mouse and Keyboard since:
Tectonic Fusion 2245	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:46:00 - [26] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Zindorak wrote: That's why they are 100k My rifle is 75k, can I get 300 splash damage because i can't aim? Its really helpful though. That's like saying im using a rail rifle for the range Or a forge gun to blow up tanks. (GIF)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3255	Posted - 2014.09.28 03:49:00 - [27] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. You bastards really won't be happy until vehicles are both toothless and gutless. Bravo.
Black SlaverX Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 191	Posted - 2014.09.28 05:01:00 - [28] - Quote So still no one can defend being able to 1 shot most scouts and two shot most other suits WITHOUT EVEN HITTING THEM. They can one shot starter fits... yeah thats good for the game. Seriously, people defending 400 SPLASH DAMAGE are just defending a crutch. Watch your back because I might be there.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1798	Posted - 2014.09.28 08:35:00 - [29] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: So still no one can defend being able to 1 shot most scouts and two shot most other suits WITHOUT EVEN HITTING THEM. They can one shot starter fits... yeah thats good for the game. Seriously, people defending 400 SPLASH DAMAGE are just defending a crutch. EDIT: They can 3 shot just about any AV before an AV even has a prayer of getting 3 shots off back at them. Oh yeah, without even actually hitting them that is. They just have to be close. Absolute BS. It's clear as day to me that you have obviously never tried to pilot yourself. "Defending a crutch" GTFO. The small bit of splash is needed. The only things I will say is, because the Railguns got nerfed so hard, and the fact that Small blasters even at proto level just dont even do enough damage to break dropship shields / tank it really is a case of Small missiles are the best all around small turret again for ADS. But saying that small missiles are a crutch is absolute horse **. Are you going to say that everything else with splash damage is a crutch? You have crutch swarm launchers that hit you way out to 400+ meters, shall I scream "Crutch"? Yes ADS needed balancing but they have took a huge nerf recently and the fact that you can even contemplate nerfing them even more is just moronic. The splash is very much needed for many reasons. To destroy equipment, to damage infantry and tanks, remember that you can be more than 100m away from targets. Oh you can get much closer if you chose to but this is now suicide in a ADS. It puts you in dangerous territory with swarms and AV grenades, lets not even mention making you an easy target for tanks, forges, missile turrets and god knows what else. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big fk-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 375	Posted - 2014.09.28 09:23:00 - [30] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. omg STOP it . Flying ADS require some skills - it is very difficult to shot something when giant hull covers your aim-cross. For most of the time I'm missing targets while using for example AR, CR.. because of lag, splash weapons are lag-free(and just because lagas we should get those weapons, that are lag free). Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido



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