DUST Search - XT-1 missiles still Overpowered.

Maken Tosch wrote:

Thumb Green wrote:

Black SlaverX wrote:

Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too.

The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers.

It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets.

That was the ONLY problem with ADS.

This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0.

I don't mind the splash damage and I'm a guy that fcking hates splash damage; but for an (A)DS it is necessary when going against infantry as it's nearly impossible to get a direct hit. So I don't mind an ADS getting 20+ kills, it's that 0 part that bothers me. I don't even care about destroying the dropship anymore, I just want to kill the person flying it but since how they're not kind enough to just get out and let me melee them to death I have to take that ADS down with them. So them being able to easily get away has always been the only problem I've had with them.

Too bad we can't snipe them out of the pilot seat.

A few days ago I managed to Nova Knife a dropship to death with the pilot still in it. I was standing right below him and he saw me. He then proceeded to try to squish me with his DS. I retaliated with my knives. The DS exploded with me next to it. I died, but I laughed sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard.

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Skill 666 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.09.28 09:40:00 - [31] - Quote Well they are missiles after all...it's profound against infantry they have acrobatic deaths. My p3ripheral vision is "OP'ed" cloaker..... 07
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming 1322	Posted - 2014.09.28 09:46:00 - [32] - Quote Isn't the X1 only fractionally better than the Adv version? If so then it seems like a pointless argument. Yes I fly too (only casually, and not at all lately) but never thought the proto missiles were really worth it. "The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun" "Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.09.28 11:47:00 - [33] - Quote Just run under the nearest structure. If that's not possible, run around like a caldari scout with its head cut off. It works every time. Dedicated Scout and Nova Knifer.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2133	Posted - 2014.09.28 12:09:00 - [34] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. 20/0? Do you not have any AV at all? Are you on teams with no AV at all? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3260	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:00:00 - [35] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: So still no one can defend being able to 1 shot most scouts and two shot most other suits WITHOUT EVEN HITTING THEM. They can one shot starter fits... yeah thats good for the game. Seriously, people defending 400 SPLASH DAMAGE are just defending a crutch. EDIT: They can 3 shot just about any AV before an AV even has a prayer of getting 3 shots off back at them. Oh yeah, without even actually hitting them that is. They just have to be close. six shots for a half-tanked amsent and a shield tank calsent. I tested this. field any sentinel suit with an assault forge and knows his/her ass from a hole in the ground and watch an ADS crap their drawers. done.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 414	Posted - 2014.09.28 13:44:00 - [36] - Quote hmmm lets see. xt-1 missile splash 455 with 2.5 m radius. xt-201 missile splash 500 with 1.5m radius. all plasma cannons have 4.5 m raidus and are all close to 500 damage. would you like to keep complaining about missiles? which has the better splash damage/radius?. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 357	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:05:00 - [37] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: So still no one can defend being able to 1 shot most scouts and two shot most other suits WITHOUT EVEN HITTING THEM. They can one shot starter fits... yeah thats good for the game. Seriously, people defending 400 SPLASH DAMAGE are just defending a crutch. EDIT: They can 3 shot just about any AV before an AV even has a prayer of getting 3 shots off back at them. Oh yeah, without even actually hitting them that is. They just have to be close. If you get seen by a dropship while running a scout you did something very wrong. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1008	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:11:00 - [38] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Zindorak wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Zindorak wrote: That's why they are 100k My rifle is 75k, can I get 300 splash damage because i can't aim? Its really helpful though. That's like saying im using a rail rifle for the range Or a forge gun to blow up tanks. yup Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 83	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:31:00 - [39] - Quote It's pretty funny to see every Ads users sucking each others d!ck pretending that they "have skill". Because playing infantry doesnt require skills??? This skill argument is the most aweful one that every single ads users use to make others think that they are superior. Truth is, I agree with this dude, a splash of 400 alpha damage is way too high, the radius is okay, not the damage. Sorry for my bad english ^^
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 3263	Posted - 2014.09.28 14:57:00 - [40] - Quote why is it "not ok?" Do you expect to stand in the blast radius and hero tank? It's a goddamn gunship, that should be your first clue there's somewhere more important to be and matters more pressing than right under it. Then when you're done being under the gunship go get an AV weapon and KILL IT.

Tebu Gan Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1218	Posted - 2014.09.28 15:10:00 - [41] - Quote Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. How about you skill into an ADS and say the same thing. I doubt you could manage 4 kills in a single match while not losing one dropship. Tanks - Balancing Turrets
Atiim 12576	Posted - 2014.09.28 17:05:00 - [42] - Quote This must be a troll thread. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
wripple WarRavens Capital Punishment. 218	Posted - 2014.09.28 18:46:00 - [43] - Quote Oh how green the grass looks from the inside. Quit crying because you haven't yet learned the hundreds of weaknesses and blindspots of the vehicles of dust. Pythons were the last thing this game had to keep me interested, and as a veteran 1.0 ADS pilot, ADSs serve almost no purpose on te battlefield anymore and are a sick joke by humorless developers.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 43	Posted - 2014.09.28 21:13:00 - [44] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Thumb Green wrote: Black SlaverX wrote: Seriously... 400 splash damage from one missile? Seriously? You get to do 400 splash damage because you missed??? Sure, I guess then forges should still be doing 400 splash damage too. The problem with ADS was never them getting away, it was the fact that they were skilless noobtubers. It is the same problem that keeps popping up, lots of splash damage=OP. It was true for flaylocks, it was true for mass drivers, it was true for forges, it is true for missile turrets. That was the ONLY problem with ADS. This also means that an ADS can still go 20/0. I don't mind the splash damage and I'm a guy that fcking hates splash damage; but for an (A)DS it is necessary when going against infantry as it's nearly impossible to get a direct hit. So I don't mind an ADS getting 20+ kills, it's that 0 part that bothers me. I don't even care about destroying the dropship anymore, I just want to kill the person flying it but since how they're not kind enough to just get out and let me melee them to death I have to take that ADS down with them. So them being able to easily get away has always been the only problem I've had with them. Too bad we can't snipe them out of the pilot seat. A few days ago I managed to Nova Knife a dropship to death with the pilot still in it. I was standing right below him and he saw me. He then proceeded to try to squish me with his DS. I retaliated with my knives. The DS exploded with me next to it. I died, but I laughed sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard. That deserves a trophy. Wish the bid was on YouTube
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9585	Posted - 2014.09.28 21:36:00 - [45] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: That deserves a trophy. Wish the bid was on YouTube I wish I could afford a damn capture card. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.


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