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Abe Foster Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 64	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:25:00 - [1] - Quote If you were a logi, and wanted to revive a body not in danger, you would just you a basic or MLT nanite injector and use a rep tool to heal the rest of their armor . you would get 60 WP for the revive, and 25 or even 50 for healing them, and you would get about 85 or even 110 total. so why would you need to get a better nanite injector if you had a rep tool. I think that using a proto reviver should give you more WP because you are giving more health. Ishukone Nova Knifes cut thought heavies like butter.
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2592	Posted - 2014.09.26 04:28:00 - [2] - Quote Abe Foster wrote: If you were a logi, and wanted to revive a body not in danger, you would just you a basic or MLT nanite injector and use a rep tool to heal the rest of their armor . you would get 60 WP for the revive, and 25 or even 50 for healing them, and you would get about 85 or even 110 total. so why would you need to get a better nanite injector if you had a rep tool. I think that using a proto reviver should give you more WP because you are giving more health. You receive more WP from better injectors if there are more people to revive because you can move from downed merc to downed merc faster without having to rep them back. If your team is dropping fast then the better injector is the way to go because you forgo repping. If you are only reviving one or two mercs every now and then and have a good tool then repping for WP is better but if you are reviving lots of people the injector blows the rep tool out of the water. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 346	Posted - 2014.09.26 05:12:00 - [3] - Quote I think that revives should be flat WP rewards regardless of the amount repaired upon revive. Could it reward more, sure. Should the reward total fluctuate between needles? IMO, no. And with all due respect, if you're not reviving with the most powerful injector you can afford to fit (relative to your full fit) you're kinda an *****. The whole revive and rep to WP *** thing is about one of the most useless overall team support actions you can do. If you're a newlogi running around in your basic gear, that makes sense, you're doing the best you can with what you've got. But if you're specifically running a cheap needle and beam to soak up WP you're really wasting everyones time, please do the rest of us a favor and gtfo of logistics altogether. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2592	Posted - 2014.09.26 05:15:00 - [4] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: I think that revives should be flat WP rewards regardless of the amount repaired upon revive. Could it reward more, sure. Should the reward total fluctuate between needles? IMO, no. And with all due respect, if you're not reviving with the most powerful injector you can afford to fit (relative to your full fit) you're kinda an *****. The whole revive and rep to WP *** thing is about one of the most useless overall team support actions you can do. If you're a newlogi running around in your basic gear, that makes sense, you're doing the best you can with what you've got. But if you're specifically running a cheap needle and beam to soak up WP you're really wasting everyones time, please do the rest of us a favor and gtfo of logistics altogether. Agreed. When I carry one it is higher tier because there is nothing worse than trying to revive someone only to see the get dropped before they get up. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 8052	Posted - 2014.09.26 14:01:00 - [5] - Quote The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Devadander Woodgrain Atari 115	Posted - 2014.09.26 14:15:00 - [6] - Quote So much this ^ "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 418	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:52:00 - [7] - Quote Change WPs from Injectors to: Std = 25 Adv = 50 PRO = 75 Encourages: a) using better equipment b) also using rep tool Fixed. Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 601	Posted - 2014.09.27 17:33:00 - [8] - Quote No. If you're a true Logibro or friend, you would run your best gear to run your best gear. CEO of GODS AMONG MEN/ Code name: Kronos Friendships are forged by war, enemies by peace Stars Wars Fan4ever, BFront3
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 413	Posted - 2014.09.27 18:03:00 - [9] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: Change WPs from Injectors to: Std = 25 Adv = 50 PRO = 75 Encourages: a) using better equipment b) also using rep tool Fixed. this would make logi/heavie combo evne more broken. THERE is a lot of proto logids out there with proto logi gear. this would only make proto stomping worse than it is. and it will be OBrain form this combo. so no.logi gear should stay as is. currently I like the higher tier = better task efficiency thing. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 419	Posted - 2014.09.28 12:20:00 - [10] - Quote 501st Headstrong wrote: No. If you're a true Logibro or friend, you would run your best gear to run your best gear. Agree with your second sentence, but how does that turn into a 'no' regarding better WP rewards for better equipment? Why would you not want to promote better equipment use by non (yet) LogiBros? Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.

bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 419	Posted - 2014.09.28 12:27:00 - [11] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: bogeyman m wrote: Change WPs from Injectors to: Std = 25 Adv = 50 PRO = 75 Encourages: a) using better equipment b) also using rep tool Fixed. this would make logi/heavie combo evne more broken. THERE is a lot of proto logids out there with proto logi gear. this would only make proto stomping worse than it is. and it will be OBrain form this combo. so no.logi gear should stay as is. currently I like the higher tier = better task efficiency thing. Sorry. I'm not following your logic. Are you saying that WPs from Injectors are the reason people proto stomp? If so, there are two flaws with that thinking: 1) Injectors have to be one of the smallest influencers of proto stomping, but if so, 2) 100% Injectors from the LP store should be more of a concern Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 419	Posted - 2014.09.28 12:40:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. Then the satisfaction of levelling the opposition under a constant rain of bullets and turning the tide of battle should be reward enough for slayer-types, right? Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.
Abe Foster Rebels New Republic INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 66	Posted - 2014.09.30 02:58:00 - [13] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. OK fine I guess it does not need a boost. Ishukone Nova Knifes cut thought heavies like butter.
Celus Ivara DUST University Ivy League 242	Posted - 2014.10.01 17:03:00 - [14] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. That's the issue though. In the above scenario you'd get far more WP (and thus SP) from using a weaker needle. The present WP revive set-up is one of the only situations where you're encouraged to engage in sub-optimal play.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1337	Posted - 2014.10.01 18:50:00 - [15] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. But it's not really worth the loss of WP. If you were capable of making injectors function as though they had repaired the target from 30% hp (aka, they give triage points) and then dropped the base WP value of a revive slightly, you'd probably find more people running better injectors. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7694	Posted - 2014.10.01 19:23:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. I dont think youre understanding the issue. Crappy Standard Injectors will allow you to earn more points than a PRO injector. That's bad balance. Should give WP based on the amount healed upon revive. Something's wrong when you regret Things that haven't happened yet
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game RUST415 483	Posted - 2014.10.01 20:59:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. I dont think youre understanding the issue. Crappy Standard Injectors will allow you to earn more points than a PRO injector. That's bad balance. Should give WP based on the amount healed upon revive. Not if you aren't a logi it wont... or a scout, but scouts lack balance so they don't count.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3011	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:13:00 - [18] - Quote Abe Foster wrote: If you were a logi, and wanted to revive a body not in danger, you would just you a basic or MLT nanite injector and use a rep tool to heal the rest of their armor . you would get 60 WP for the revive, and 25 or even 50 for healing them, and you would get about 85 or even 110 total. so why would you need to get a better nanite injector if you had a rep tool. I think that using a proto reviver should give you more WP because you are giving more health. Longstanding issue. Check the quoted text in the most recent post See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Kensai Dragon DUST University Ivy League 7	Posted - 2014.10.02 00:50:00 - [19] - Quote bogeyman m wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. Then the satisfaction of levelling the opposition under a constant rain of bullets and turning the tide of battle should be reward enough for slayer-types, right? Do you get more WP for killing with an advanced or proto rifle? No, you get the satisfaction of doing well at your chosen role. If you add increased WP for using advanced gear then it should be spread across all gear.
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 239	Posted - 2014.10.02 01:56:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: The satisfaction of raising someone from the dead to 80% shields and armor, basking the poor soul in ammo and armor repping hives, or even topping off the 20% armor with your rep tool, and then healing that player under fire, is reward enough. youre forgetting the cal FW LP wirkomi injectors @ 100% Burst HMG is OP use it. I do



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