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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
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Posted - 2014.09.27 01:14:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:For those quoting EVE you're doing it wrong.
Minmatar primary damage is explosive (armor busting) but with selectable ammo for sepecific things.
Amarr primary laser damage is EM/Thermal: shield destroyer weapons. Crap vs. Armor tank.
Gallente is thermal/kinetic. Balanced against both with a slight edge over shields.
Caldari prever kinetic/thermal. Balanced with slight edge over armor. Projectiles universally deal Kinetic, while Explosive is a sub-damage type, usually higher than their main damage, but still a sub damage. Lasers also come with Conflagration- an Explosive crystal. Sooo yeah. But that's ****ing wrong idiot. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Conflagration_SConflag: Range -50% 7.7:7.7 EM:THERMAL 15.4 damage Exactly 50% em / therm. I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to pull references from eve, as it's clear with even the most cursory knowledge you don't have a goddamn ****ing clue what you're talking about. No laser crystal does anything other than EM or Therm (in varying amounts). No hybrid charge does anything other than kinetic or thermal in varying amounts. As far as 'projectiles doing kinetic' yes, they do *some* kinetic on every charge - however the best damage:range charges have EXTREME AMOUNTS OF EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE. Specialist rounds (therm/em/kin) tend to lose either a lot of damage, a lot of range or have other very nasty penalties associated with them in comparison to the explosive rounds. You're spouting all of these things and I doubt you've ever even played eve, nor are you even resorting to google to factcheck your information.
My bad, i meant Scorch.
My point was that Lasers had Explosive damage.
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Malleus Malificorum
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.09.27 03:44:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:For those quoting EVE you're doing it wrong.
Minmatar primary damage is explosive (armor busting) but with selectable ammo for sepecific things.
Amarr primary laser damage is EM/Thermal: shield destroyer weapons. Crap vs. Armor tank.
Gallente is thermal/kinetic. Balanced against both with a slight edge over shields.
Caldari prever kinetic/thermal. Balanced with slight edge over armor. Projectiles universally deal Kinetic, while Explosive is a sub-damage type, usually higher than their main damage, but still a sub damage. Lasers also come with Conflagration- an Explosive crystal. Sooo yeah. But that's ****ing wrong idiot. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Conflagration_SConflag: Range -50% 7.7:7.7 EM:THERMAL 15.4 damage Exactly 50% em / therm. I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to pull references from eve, as it's clear with even the most cursory knowledge you don't have a goddamn ****ing clue what you're talking about. No laser crystal does anything other than EM or Therm (in varying amounts). No hybrid charge does anything other than kinetic or thermal in varying amounts. As far as 'projectiles doing kinetic' yes, they do *some* kinetic on every charge - however the best damage:range charges have EXTREME AMOUNTS OF EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE. Specialist rounds (therm/em/kin) tend to lose either a lot of damage, a lot of range or have other very nasty penalties associated with them in comparison to the explosive rounds. You're spouting all of these things and I doubt you've ever even played eve, nor are you even resorting to google to factcheck your information. My bad, i meant Scorch. My point was that Lasers had Explosive damage.
STILL WRONG ****HEAD. Absolutely ZERO laser crystals do anything other than thermal or em in varying amounts. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Scorch_S
You were linked to a place where you could have checked this. Lasers do not do explosive damage. EVER.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
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Posted - 2014.09.27 04:31:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Malleus Malificorum wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:For those quoting EVE you're doing it wrong.
Minmatar primary damage is explosive (armor busting) but with selectable ammo for sepecific things.
Amarr primary laser damage is EM/Thermal: shield destroyer weapons. Crap vs. Armor tank.
Gallente is thermal/kinetic. Balanced against both with a slight edge over shields.
Caldari prever kinetic/thermal. Balanced with slight edge over armor. Projectiles universally deal Kinetic, while Explosive is a sub-damage type, usually higher than their main damage, but still a sub damage. Lasers also come with Conflagration- an Explosive crystal. Sooo yeah. But that's ****ing wrong idiot. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Conflagration_SConflag: Range -50% 7.7:7.7 EM:THERMAL 15.4 damage Exactly 50% em / therm. I'd really appreciate it if you stopped trying to pull references from eve, as it's clear with even the most cursory knowledge you don't have a goddamn ****ing clue what you're talking about. No laser crystal does anything other than EM or Therm (in varying amounts). No hybrid charge does anything other than kinetic or thermal in varying amounts. As far as 'projectiles doing kinetic' yes, they do *some* kinetic on every charge - however the best damage:range charges have EXTREME AMOUNTS OF EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE. Specialist rounds (therm/em/kin) tend to lose either a lot of damage, a lot of range or have other very nasty penalties associated with them in comparison to the explosive rounds. You're spouting all of these things and I doubt you've ever even played eve, nor are you even resorting to google to factcheck your information. My bad, i meant Scorch. My point was that Lasers had Explosive damage. STILL WRONG ****HEAD. Absolutely ZERO laser crystals do anything other than thermal or em in varying amounts. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Scorch_SYou were linked to a place where you could have checked this. Lasers do not do explosive damage. EVER.
Getting upset at a person having information wrong, excellent.
I could've sworn there was a laser crystal that had Explosive, and i'm not even sure how that came up.
General John Ripper
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Malleus Malificorum
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Posted - 2014.09.27 05:04:00 -
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You're trying to claim that your information was correct when A) it wasn't and it was referenced that it wasn't and B) you couldn't be bothered to even check this information and C) YOU WERE TRYING TO CONSTRUCT AN ARGUMENT BASED OFF OF THIS INCORRECT INFORMATION.
So yes, I'm allowed to be mad when you're basing your arguments off of fallacies and incorrect information.
Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.27 06:30:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Against a STANDARD calsent using a Six Kin ACR on a MK.0 Commando, WITH Prof 2 or 3, it took me THREE clips to drop his shields, and he stood there, pelleting me with 40m HMG.
You should probably go back into retirement. lol
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:23:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:As for a proposal/request: Can we PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS KITTEN, change Projectile to -5%/+5%, as that follows the EVElopedia which states: *goes to copy/paste* taken from HERE: Quote:Projectile ammunition always does some amount of kinetic damage, as well as one or more other types depending on the ammo. Projectile ammunition can cover a wide range of damage types and uses, so you can select something to use for general situations, or you can tailor your choice to certain damage types. This complete abandonment of EVE's design in favor of "wahh wahh CR eat shield, must break CR, OH, CR eat armor? MAKE IT SO!"
Actually, I made a thread about it somewhere in General, let me look...
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:26:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:As for a proposal/request: Can we PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS KITTEN, change Projectile to -5%/+5%, as that follows the EVElopedia which states: *goes to copy/paste* taken from HERE: Quote:Projectile ammunition always does some amount of kinetic damage, as well as one or more other types depending on the ammo. Projectile ammunition can cover a wide range of damage types and uses, so you can select something to use for general situations, or you can tailor your choice to certain damage types. This complete abandonment of EVE's design in favor of "wahh wahh CR eat shield, must break CR, OH, CR eat armor? MAKE IT SO!"
Do it for the ASCR too then. The weapon that's been 20/-20 since being created, in an armor infested game. Now you know why I stopped using the ASCR and it can only shoot 51 bullets before overheating on amarr lvl 5.
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