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Bsar Kues Special Operation Forces 0	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:15:00 - [1] - Quote I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 236	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:20:00 - [2] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered. Keep on hearing BscP is op too. I need to try the bolt. The Blazing Intellect Machine
KingA2thur Special Operation Forces 0	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:27:00 - [3] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered. True. It is easy now to kill a scout with two shots. Militia assaults, two shots. Militia Heavy, three shots. I killed a advanced Caldari Assault with three shots. If u like to be a badass take the caldari scout and equip two boltpistols and two nanohives and you can kill half of the enemy team on your own.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1594	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:29:00 - [4] - Quote Increased Damage considerably, decreased the clip. I'm loving, it seems to work more fluidly. The ability to drop a Scout in 1-2 hits is great. Perhaps a little tweak, but let the game normalize. As for the Breach Scrambler Pistol, yea, its pretty high up on the list of OP stuff. But, the Breach is losing about 30 points of damage soon. If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Brodun Kest 5	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:38:00 - [5] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Increased Damage considerably, decreased the clip. I'm loving, it seems to work more fluidly. The ability to drop a Scout in 1-2 hits is great. Perhaps a little tweak, but let the game normalize. As for the Breach Scrambler Pistol, yea, its pretty high up on the list of OP stuff. But, the Breach is losing about 30 points of damage soon. In my opinion it is not normal if I am able to take a scout down with 1-2 shots. And assaults with 2-4 shots. It is like the Flaylock at the beginning. I know what I am speaking of. I got shot many times since Delta with that damn Boltpistol. One scout killed me four times in a row while i was running my advanced assault. OOooohhhh.....Project Legion..... Come on guys feed CCP with your Money and get kicked into your ass. Screw U
Jebus McKing Legio DXIV 680	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:47:00 - [6] - Quote The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. You have to post numbers and math to be taken seriously. // @JebusMcKing
Bsar Kues Special Operation Forces 0	Posted - 2014.09.25 13:53:00 - [7] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ?
Extraneus Tenebrarum CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 78	Posted - 2014.09.25 14:15:00 - [8] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? Is it okay that a militia HMG, forge gun , shotgun, any large turret and small turret can kill any type of suit ? Yes it is
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 402	Posted - 2014.09.25 14:34:00 - [9] - Quote The bolt pistol seems op because everybody and their mothers are running armor suits. Claiming that the bolt pistol is OP is a little bit over the top because: - BP has to charge on every shot, if you know how to strafe this is easy to counter - BP has a 4 round clip - BP has low ammo carried - BP can't spray and pray I think that although the base damage is high CCP did a good job on the bolt pistol. Now that it kills people you'll get the OP claims. I've used the bolt pistol quite often on my scout before the buff and can honestly say it's a skill shot weapon, If you miss 1 of your shots you're screwed. I think that vs other side arms you'll have a 50/50 chance in a head on gun fight like you're supposed to. Keep in mind it's only out for one day in its current state so people will try it, however I still believe people will favor the higher clip size sidearms in the end.
Vesta Opalus Kang Lo Holding 35	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:03:00 - [10] - Quote Have bolt pistol protod out here, its still second fiddle to the SMG. #1. It is pretty bad in close range, which for a sidearm is a pretty strong reason not to use it. #2. Every light weapon out ranges it except the shotgun, and every one of them out dpses it, so at all points in its effective range you are the underdog. That said its a very quiet weapon and most people cant really tell where its coming from, which means if you are at the high end of the range pecking at people they will generally stumble around like idiots until you kill them Yes this will kill untanked scouts in 1-2 shots and starter fits/low tank mediums in 2-3, but so will everything else. You will never see a scout using a bolt pistol over a shotgun or an amar using a bolt pistol over a scrambler rifle, nothing to see here. It still sucks and the only fit I personally use it on is still my sidearm troll suit.

Jebus McKing Legio DXIV 682	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:21:00 - [11] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? Proto BoP does ~1000 damage per clip. Proto SMG does ~ 1800 damage per clip. If you hit with every shot, then yes the BoP should finish off even Heavies. But at a ~1000 damage per clip the BoP alone will not kill most heavies. You have to post numbers and math to be taken seriously. // @JebusMcKing
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12419	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:28:00 - [12] - Quote Bolt Pistol is a sexy magnum. That is all. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
John ShepardIII Murphys-Law 652	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:29:00 - [13] - Quote I want to try it out. I loved the magnum in battlefield The True Shepard.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1536	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:44:00 - [14] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: Proto BoP does ~1000 damage per clip. Proto SMG does ~ 1800 damage per clip. If you hit with every shot, then yes the BoP should finish off even Heavies. But at a ~1000 damage per clip the BoP alone will not kill most heavies. A few things... First, it's a heck of a lot easier to hit on every shot of the BoP than even half the shots on a SMG. Alpha weapons simply work this way. Second, you have forgotten the headshot bonus, which is HUGE, and allows you to kill any suit in the game well before the clip is emptied. Third, it's a finishing weapon, not a primary, so judging a sidearm on its damage per clip and then comparing that to suit EHP is not a realistic use case.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 180	Posted - 2014.09.25 15:47:00 - [15] - Quote I killed a full HP Gal starter fit with one BP shot to the head, it's OP. 32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
Bsar Kues Special Operation Forces 0	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:03:00 - [16] - Quote It is pointless to compare the Boltpistol with the SMG. The Boltpistol is from mid, far and close range absolutely deadly. Do not tell me it has to charge and because of the time it has to charge it is less dangerous. I tried a fitting with boltpistol and I killed assaults, no matter if caldari minmatar or shield based or armor based, with one clip. I am no veteran player I am just an average player and had more kills than usual. The charge time does not matter because, if you have a scout, caldari, it is easy to see the enemy before he can see you. So you can shoot from behind. With a headshot you get a 1 hit kill. I also killed a assault from mid range with two shots. The only method to evade the boltpistol easy is to hide or you get support. It was even easier for me to kill enemys when they were jumping around.
Random Redberry Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 3	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:14:00 - [17] - Quote its not very op i use it but i need more people to jon my corp that use it 2 if you use it pls jin i got left as ceo what do? pls join
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 320	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:16:00 - [18] - Quote So, caldari frontline starter fits are OP? Is that what I'm hearing? Prefit with a RR & BP, how can it not be! Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 3121	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:20:00 - [19] - Quote Technically it is not op the reason it seems op is that there is so much power behind the first shot which is usually easy to make on an unsuspecting enemy that you will overwhelm then and instead of them trying to fight back they will run, depending on the situation it should be easy to predict where they will run to. All this being done and processed by your brain in less than 2 seconds make it feel like you just brutalized your enemy. We can remove this effect without changing the Dps by reducing the damage and increasing rof. One factor of it that IS op is that it is to good at cq. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1507	Posted - 2014.09.25 16:22:00 - [20] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? stop with the its OP posts you are killing mlt noobs with that gun who stand still and let you shoot them 3 times. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer

Bsar Kues Special Operation Forces 0	Posted - 2014.09.25 17:14:00 - [21] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? stop with the its OP posts you are killing mlt noobs with that gun who stand still and let you shoot them 3 times. If you would read closely before you post it would help a lot. I did not shot noobs. I killed average players most of the times.
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3613	Posted - 2014.09.25 17:45:00 - [22] - Quote They, also, reduced the 6 shot to 4.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1514	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:14:00 - [23] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? stop with the its OP posts you are killing mlt noobs with that gun who stand still and let you shoot them 3 times. If you would read closely before you post it would help a lot. I did not shot noobs. I killed average players most of the times. keep telling yourself that bub. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Jack 3enimble Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 406	Posted - 2014.09.25 18:46:00 - [24] - Quote Joel II X wrote: They, also, reduced the 6 shot to 4. People only seem to see the power of weapons and raise the OP flag. I call these people idiots, because they fail to compare different situations. Assault smg has a ROF increase yet people only see the damage nerf I have proto SMG that has no trouble killing people, just like my bolt pistol can do now. Difference is bolt pistol has to do it in 4 shots so you have to make sure it counts
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 564	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:05:00 - [25] - Quote They should have made it look like a revolver too. A caldari space cowboy revolver. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 320	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:07:00 - [26] - Quote I do wonder why it needs such a long clip for only a couple shots? Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 564	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:16:00 - [27] - Quote 2Berries wrote: I do wonder why it needs such a long clip for only a couple shots? It looks too 'thin'. Same as the magsec. It needs to be more chunky and heavy looking like a desert eagle. Something befitting of its awesome stopping power. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:24:00 - [28] - Quote TRDL; Blah blah blah,, I'm so awesome.. blah blah blah.. Nerf this cause I'm awesome.. blah blah blah.. Over 50 Million SP and almost full proto in all Caldari Suits. No matter how hard CCP tries Dust just won't die on PS3/4
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 78	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:24:00 - [29] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: Jebus McKing wrote: The BoP is fine. It is now finally equally useful as an SMG IMO. People complain that you can kill MLT and starter fits in 2 shots, but the truth is those starter fits wouldn't stand a chance against a SMG either. The thing is, it is a real skill shot weapon. You have a charge-up and only 4 shots in a clip. So IMO if you can make those shots hit they should deal a lot of damage. So you want to say it is alright if I am able to kill every type of suit, even heavys with Kaalakiota Boltpistol ? So you want to say it's alright if those damn Militia shotgun can 2-3 shots every single suits in this game? That a militia forge gun can OS everything too? Stop the bs pls. BoP is fine. Sorry for my bad english ^^
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 302	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:48:00 - [30] - Quote Rattati and I discussed this. Mathematically. The Bolt Pistol has DPS that fits its range and weapon class profile. 386 DPS, which is the least of the pistols. It's fine. I too believed that it was OP before, but Rattati showed me that I was missing a balancing factor that cut the weapon down to line.



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