DUST Search - Bolt Pistol OP?!

DEZKA DIABLO wrote:

jace silencerww wrote:

Jack 3enimble wrote:

The bolt pistol seems op because everybody and their mothers are running armor suits. Claiming that the bolt pistol is OP is a little bit over the top because:

- BP has to charge on every shot, if you know how to strafe this is easy to counter
- BP has a 4 round clip
- BP has low ammo carried
- BP can't spray and pray

I think that although the base damage is high CCP did a good job on the bolt pistol. Now that it kills people you'll get the OP claims. I've used the bolt pistol quite often on my scout before the buff and can honestly say it's a skill shot weapon, If you miss 1 of your shots you're screwed. I think that vs other side arms you'll have a 50/50 chance in a head on gun fight like you're supposed to.

Keep in mind it's only out for one day in its current state so people will try it, however I still believe people will favor the higher clip size sidearms in the end.

lol that is now before it just had a range dropoff damage % issue it was 150 damage 6 clip 36 ammo. it is not a spray and pray sidearm it was meant for mid to long range attacks. the charge up is very quick and it is perfect to reaim between shots. now it is op with on shield 225% headshot with a basic bp of 229 that is over 515.25 damage remember it goes up to 245% when it hits armor. so if a suit has 400 shield 150 armor the damage goes 400 to shield but the 115 turns into 125 so the suit would have 25 armor left the is not counting any proficiency in it. with level 1 prof the suit would be dead. how is that not OP? remember this is a SIDEARM not a shotgun or nova knives. it is a sniper rifle at 10 - 80 meters.

A scr can chargeable ohk a ton of suits, so can a sg or a pair of nk the key factors in all those weapons is skill.
in the time it takes to kill with a smg it would be equal or quicker than a bp.

Although i am probably biased because ive used it as my main weapon since its release, i have the timing down and my skills up, i can and have killed a heavy in a bp vs hmg dual with a few shots but im pro 5, reload 5 and damage mods so i can drop about 700 hp off you in 2/3 shots thats about 3 to five seconds which is more than enough time for my smg to destroy you, just feels like a worse death because my two skill shots beat your lousy spray n pray.

Dont worry your ego will heal.

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BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES THE BONERBOMBS 35	Posted - 2014.09.25 21:57:00 - [31] - Quote Bsar Kues wrote: I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered. Its not overpowered for the last time. Wow it got a damage buff, BIG DEAL. They lowered clip size and range. Its better for medium range or cqc as a finisher on heavies or an instant death on retards in militia or medium frames. It take actually skill to use. I used proto bolts before this damage buff. They still take the same amount of skill to use. Don't cry about damage. Read the description on the proto bolt. "The kaalakiota bolt pistol is the most powerful handgun on the market" says it in the description for a reason I enjoy beverage I manage beverage But mostly enjoy beverage
BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES THE BONERBOMBS 35	Posted - 2014.09.25 22:00:00 - [32] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Rattati and I discussed this. Mathematically. The Bolt Pistol has DPS that fits its range and weapon class profile. 386 DPS, which is the least of the pistols. It's fine. I too believed that it was OP before, but Rattati showed me that I was missing a balancing factor that cut the weapon down to line. Now I like where fizz is taking this. To the balancing. That's more like it. Prove the babies wrong and shove their words back down their throats I enjoy beverage I manage beverage But mostly enjoy beverage
Mejt0 The Only Survivor. 469	Posted - 2014.09.25 22:07:00 - [33] - Quote Bolt pistol isnt. It has 4 ammo/clip. Strafing destroys BoP. Its easier with smg to land every shoot running/strafing/jumping around. Lastly. Sidearms are/should be for close ranges. If you have your light weapon (rifle), then you already have long range gun. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES THE BONERBOMBS 35	Posted - 2014.09.25 22:39:00 - [34] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Bolt pistol isnt. It has 4 ammo/clip. Strafing destroys BoP. Its easier with smg to land every shoot running/strafing/jumping around. Lastly. Sidearms are/should be for close ranges. If you have your light weapon (rifle), then you already have long range gun. lol really? How come I one shot strafing garbage? Get a clue kid. Obviously you don't use bolts I enjoy beverage I manage beverage But mostly enjoy beverage
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution 3158	Posted - 2014.09.25 22:55:00 - [35] - Quote BONERBOMB TIGBITTIES wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Bolt pistol isnt. It has 4 ammo/clip. Strafing destroys BoP. Its easier with smg to land every shoot running/strafing/jumping around. Lastly. Sidearms are/should be for close ranges. If you have your light weapon (rifle), then you already have long range gun. lol really? How come I one shot strafing garbage? Get a clue kid. Obviously you don't use bolts Another pathetic attempt at trolling come on you can do it you can learn to troll, I can set you up with some lessons from Knight Solaire only 999k an hour. Tanker/Logi/Assault
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 237	Posted - 2014.09.25 22:57:00 - [36] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Rattati and I discussed this. Mathematically. The Bolt Pistol has DPS that fits its range and weapon class profile. 386 DPS, which is the least of the pistols. It's fine. I too believed that it was OP before, but Rattati showed me that I was missing a balancing factor that cut the weapon down to line. I'm two hitting people with it. Its crazy good. The Blazing Intellect Machine
Zindorak 1.U.P 947	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:00:00 - [37] - Quote BlazeXYZ wrote: Bsar Kues wrote: I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered. Keep on hearing BscP is op too. I need to try the bolt. wat BScP is op? who the hell said that Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 703	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:32:00 - [38] - Quote My bolt pistol will mess you up and make you feel abused, why? Well A: I got good with using it, i know when to use it and when not to. B: mines at proficiency 5 and i use two damage mods, so you do the math DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
TritusX PH4NT0M5 28	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:35:00 - [39] - Quote How to have fun: Make a alt Donate him 500k Get him a simple Med. Frame and STD BP (I used Amarr) Fill highs with sidearm DMG modifier (MLT) Lows with armor repair 2x BP 1 Active Scanner or Nanohive Then run around and snipe everyone in the match with two hits. Scout 514 forever
Mex-0 420 smoke alot 62	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:37:00 - [40] - Quote KingA2thur wrote: Bsar Kues wrote: I liked the Boltpistol as it appeared with Uprising 1.8. I thought "Wow, a pistol that shoots projectils with hihgspeed. It has to charge but who cares. The damage it deals is 150 HP". So I used it often and liked it very much as it was. But now it is even in my eyes OP. I could understand if CCP increased it to 180. But seriously.... From 150 to 229? I really hope it is a mistake. Or else there will follow posts from other players saying the Boltpistol is overpowered. True. It is easy now to kill a scout with two shots. Militia assaults, two shots. Militia Heavy, three shots. I killed a advanced Caldari Assault with three shots. If u like to be a badass take the caldari scout and equip two boltpistols and two nanohives and you can kill half of the enemy team on your own. THIS Dedicated Scout and Scrambler Rifle Specialist.

DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 703	Posted - 2014.09.25 23:37:00 - [41] - Quote TritusX wrote: How to have fun: Make a alt Donate him 500k Get him a simple Med. Frame and STD BP (I used Amarr) Fill highs with sidearm DMG modifier (MLT) Lows with armor repair 2x BP 1 Active Scanner or Nanohive Then run around and snipe everyone in the match with two hits. Remotes work better. DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
jace silencerww Inner.Hell 49	Posted - 2014.09.26 00:27:00 - [42] - Quote Jack 3enimble wrote: The bolt pistol seems op because everybody and their mothers are running armor suits. Claiming that the bolt pistol is OP is a little bit over the top because: - BP has to charge on every shot, if you know how to strafe this is easy to counter - BP has a 4 round clip - BP has low ammo carried - BP can't spray and pray I think that although the base damage is high CCP did a good job on the bolt pistol. Now that it kills people you'll get the OP claims. I've used the bolt pistol quite often on my scout before the buff and can honestly say it's a skill shot weapon, If you miss 1 of your shots you're screwed. I think that vs other side arms you'll have a 50/50 chance in a head on gun fight like you're supposed to. Keep in mind it's only out for one day in its current state so people will try it, however I still believe people will favor the higher clip size sidearms in the end. lol that is now before it just had a range dropoff damage % issue it was 150 damage 6 clip 36 ammo. it is not a spray and pray sidearm it was meant for mid to long range attacks. the charge up is very quick and it is perfect to reaim between shots. now it is op with on shield 225% headshot with a basic bp of 229 that is over 515.25 damage remember it goes up to 245% when it hits armor. so if a suit has 400 shield 150 armor the damage goes 400 to shield but the 115 turns into 125 so the suit would have 25 armor left the is not counting any proficiency in it. with level 1 prof the suit would be dead. how is that not OP? remember this is a SIDEARM not a shotgun or nova knives. it is a sniper rifle at 10 - 80 meters.
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 703	Posted - 2014.09.26 00:39:00 - [43] - Quote jace silencerww wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: The bolt pistol seems op because everybody and their mothers are running armor suits. Claiming that the bolt pistol is OP is a little bit over the top because: - BP has to charge on every shot, if you know how to strafe this is easy to counter - BP has a 4 round clip - BP has low ammo carried - BP can't spray and pray I think that although the base damage is high CCP did a good job on the bolt pistol. Now that it kills people you'll get the OP claims. I've used the bolt pistol quite often on my scout before the buff and can honestly say it's a skill shot weapon, If you miss 1 of your shots you're screwed. I think that vs other side arms you'll have a 50/50 chance in a head on gun fight like you're supposed to. Keep in mind it's only out for one day in its current state so people will try it, however I still believe people will favor the higher clip size sidearms in the end. lol that is now before it just had a range dropoff damage % issue it was 150 damage 6 clip 36 ammo. it is not a spray and pray sidearm it was meant for mid to long range attacks. the charge up is very quick and it is perfect to reaim between shots. now it is op with on shield 225% headshot with a basic bp of 229 that is over 515.25 damage remember it goes up to 245% when it hits armor. so if a suit has 400 shield 150 armor the damage goes 400 to shield but the 115 turns into 125 so the suit would have 25 armor left the is not counting any proficiency in it. with level 1 prof the suit would be dead. how is that not OP? remember this is a SIDEARM not a shotgun or nova knives. it is a sniper rifle at 10 - 80 meters. A scr can chargeable ohk a ton of suits, so can a sg or a pair of nk the key factors in all those weapons is skill. in the time it takes to kill with a smg it would be equal or quicker than a bp. Although i am probably biased because ive used it as my main weapon since its release, i have the timing down and my skills up, i can and have killed a heavy in a bp vs hmg dual with a few shots but im pro 5, reload 5 and damage mods so i can drop about 700 hp off you in 2/3 shots thats about 3 to five seconds which is more than enough time for my smg to destroy you, just feels like a worse death because my two skill shots beat your lousy spray n pray. Dont worry your ego will heal. DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3615	Posted - 2014.09.26 01:05:00 - [44] - Quote I OHK'ed a G/1 - Series Scout today with the Bolt Pistol. Before, it took two. GLORIOUS!
Chrome HD BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 30	Posted - 2014.09.26 10:44:00 - [45] - Quote I dont know but im likeing that magsec.
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 287	Posted - 2014.09.26 10:51:00 - [46] - Quote last night I dropped 2 galsentinels wit BP I jumped around like a bunny with mu ck.0 scout and reloaded BP several times. It's not easy to aim with it and you have only 4 shot in clip with chargetime Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro Logibro2
Aria Gomes The dyst0pian Corporation 533	Posted - 2014.09.26 11:01:00 - [47] - Quote It's bit crazy than it was in Hotfix Charlie. I got proficiency 3 in Bolt Pistol and it destroys everything. I oneshotted an Amarr scout last night with a headshot. The proficiency really makes this gun shine though. I haven't tried the breach pistol yet but the Breach AR is good too. Well it's been good since Charlie but yeah Bolt is nasty now. I knew a made a great choice with putting points in that crazy little thing.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1773	Posted - 2014.09.26 11:24:00 - [48] - Quote I like the increased power with the sidearms but I do agree, I think they went a little too far with the Bolt pistol. Possibly with the breach scrambler too although I have been seeing the bolt pistol a hell of a lot more. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Zindorak 1.U.P 994	Posted - 2014.09.26 11:24:00 - [49] - Quote Im thinking of spending that extra SP on get BP, IoP and Flaylock to proto Pokemon master! Death to all Swarm scrubs CCP please buff AScR and normal AR :(
Jathniel G I A N T 1165	Posted - 2014.09.26 12:14:00 - [50] - Quote lol a thread full of "Bolt Pistol is OP" goodness. lol amazing. The Bolt Pistol is OP. It's damage and clip size was fine before. All it needed was a really good range buff... it should have had the highest range of the sidearms if anything. Now the only way to balance it, is to disable Aim Assist for it. The thing has a sight, but works better in hip fire. lmao. lol I fkin called it. pats self on back Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.

jace silencerww Inner.Hell 50	Posted - 2014.09.26 12:40:00 - [51] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: jace silencerww wrote: Jack 3enimble wrote: The bolt pistol seems op because everybody and their mothers are running armor suits. Claiming that the bolt pistol is OP is a little bit over the top because: - BP has to charge on every shot, if you know how to strafe this is easy to counter - BP has a 4 round clip - BP has low ammo carried - BP can't spray and pray I think that although the base damage is high CCP did a good job on the bolt pistol. Now that it kills people you'll get the OP claims. I've used the bolt pistol quite often on my scout before the buff and can honestly say it's a skill shot weapon, If you miss 1 of your shots you're screwed. I think that vs other side arms you'll have a 50/50 chance in a head on gun fight like you're supposed to. Keep in mind it's only out for one day in its current state so people will try it, however I still believe people will favor the higher clip size sidearms in the end. lol that is now before it just had a range dropoff damage % issue it was 150 damage 6 clip 36 ammo. it is not a spray and pray sidearm it was meant for mid to long range attacks. the charge up is very quick and it is perfect to reaim between shots. now it is op with on shield 225% headshot with a basic bp of 229 that is over 515.25 damage remember it goes up to 245% when it hits armor. so if a suit has 400 shield 150 armor the damage goes 400 to shield but the 115 turns into 125 so the suit would have 25 armor left the is not counting any proficiency in it. with level 1 prof the suit would be dead. how is that not OP? remember this is a SIDEARM not a shotgun or nova knives. it is a sniper rifle at 10 - 80 meters. A scr can chargeable ohk a ton of suits, so can a sg or a pair of nk the key factors in all those weapons is skill. in the time it takes to kill with a smg it would be equal or quicker than a bp. Although i am probably biased because ive used it as my main weapon since its release, i have the timing down and my skills up, i can and have killed a heavy in a bp vs hmg dual with a few shots but im pro 5, reload 5 and damage mods so i can drop about 700 hp off you in 2/3 shots thats about 3 to five seconds which is more than enough time for my smg to destroy you, just feels like a worse death because my two skill shots beat your lousy spray n pray. Dont worry your ego will heal. again the bolt is a sidearm not a light weapon. tell me why can I ohk a medium suit at 80 with the bolt? the damage plus crazy high headshot % one of the two needs to be tuned down some not hit hard with nerf hammer but the bolt is the FOTM op from CCP
Scar Scrilla 455	Posted - 2014.09.26 12:54:00 - [52] - Quote No need to worry: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176225&find=unread "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" " ... or grab a shotgun and REs." - UN1TE
Mex-0 G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 66	Posted - 2014.09.27 16:58:00 - [53] - Quote I went dual Bolt Pistol today, both ADV. I 5 shotted an ADV heavy! Dedicated Scout and Scrambler Rifle Specialist.
Kemo Kilo Vendetta Reactionary Force 0	Posted - 2014.09.27 18:01:00 - [54] - Quote This gun isn't overpowered its just really good I mean the gun is very useful espically if you have a cloak I'm going to be the 1 of the best in my corp $$$$Vendetta reactionary force$$$ I Represent^{GÇó_GÇó}~~~~~~~~~
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 704	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:16:00 - [55] - Quote Ive had the bolt at proficiency 5 for a long time and i honestly think the only buff it needed was two in the clip, and the reload fix and pg reduction, its wicked as now and maybe too good but im also rocking it on a pro cal scout with 3 damage mods and pro five which does approximately 340 a shot lol which means its got great dps on its own and even better if your knocking off shield for the cr or using a scr or scp to remove shields and the bp as the kill shot, which would explain the killfeed But if your gonna do anything to change it revert the damage to old and return the clip size, thats all. Do not flaylock it! It was my favorite gun and i ve been getting 20 kill games using it with knives since before it had hype, it should hit hard and too many people have underestimated its power because nobody used it, things always been beast but before hit detection was severely broken. Maybe take 20 damage off at most or even more but dont change the charge time; although i had the old charge time perfectly timed in my head and honestly either way im gonna wreck with it, i use three damage mods and have proficiency and reload maxed , i really just wished the gun remained the best kept secret in dust, but thats always ruined by some jackass writing a thread trying to be a hero! DONT EVER COMPLAIN, USE CAPS LOCK OR POINT OUT WHAT BROKEN WITH OUR GAME OR WE WILL DEFINITELY BAN YOUR ASS FOR 6 MONTHS
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 675	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:17:00 - [56] - Quote SHH if you call it OP then some idiots will try to spec into it...
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 86	Posted - 2014.09.27 20:18:00 - [57] - Quote They are both fine "The human being was not chosen to be a god..the god himself should become a human being."


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