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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.27 13:36:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:Something to look into PLEASE!
Swarms against tanks have CEASED paying out damage WP. I fired over 20 swarms at 2 tanks. An assumed triple armor repair stacked madrugar and a gunnlogi with at least 1 heavy shield extender and I don't know what else. For some reason both tanks were able to start getting hp back before my 2nd set of swarms were able to hit and I never received damage wp payout UNTIL the tank was destroyed. Then I received the standard 75 damage wps, 150 destruction wp, and 50 for the player kill.
This is not the same against LAVs or dropships! Those will still payout damage wps.
I still receive amage warpoints with my forge gun against tanks
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BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
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Posted - 2014.09.27 13:53:00 -
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Were there any changes to the TacAR?
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Adipem Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:23:00 -
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BlazeXYZ wrote:Were there any changes to the TacAR?
Seems its RoF was increased; now closer (if not identical to) that of the ScR.
Shoot scout with yes.
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BrotherofHavok
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:25:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:Something to look into PLEASE!
Swarms against tanks have CEASED paying out damage WP. I fired over 20 swarms at 2 tanks. An assumed triple armor repair stacked madrugar and a gunnlogi with at least 1 heavy shield extender and I don't know what else. For some reason both tanks were able to start getting hp back before my 2nd set of swarms were able to hit and I never received damage wp payout UNTIL the tank was destroyed. Then I received the standard 75 damage wps, 150 destruction wp, and 50 for the player kill.
This is not the same against LAVs or dropships! Those will still payout damage wps. I still receive amage warpoints with my forge gun against tanks
I do too, but the key word in the previous post was "swarms" not forge. Something has happened in the latest hotfix that has caused issues with earning WP with swarms.
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BrotherofHavok
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:26:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:BlazeXYZ wrote:Were there any changes to the TacAR? Seems its RoF was increased; now closer (if not identical to) that of the ScR.
Not entirely positive on this but i think the dispersion is a bit better. Hip-fire seems to be a tighter spread than it use to be.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:27:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:Something to look into PLEASE!
Swarms against tanks have CEASED paying out damage WP. I fired over 20 swarms at 2 tanks. An assumed triple armor repair stacked madrugar and a gunnlogi with at least 1 heavy shield extender and I don't know what else. For some reason both tanks were able to start getting hp back before my 2nd set of swarms were able to hit and I never received damage wp payout UNTIL the tank was destroyed. Then I received the standard 75 damage wps, 150 destruction wp, and 50 for the player kill.
This is not the same against LAVs or dropships! Those will still payout damage wps. I still receive amage warpoints with my forge gun against tanks I do too, but the key word in the previous post was "swarms" not forge. Something has happened in the latest hotfix that has caused issues with earning WP with swarms.
I know, I was just making it clear that the issue was probably just for swarms, not damage wp in general
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SmokinRoses420
Bra's and Boxer's
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:33:00 -
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I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
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CLONE ALPHA 001
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:37:00 -
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why the reduction to the bolt pistol rate of fire? |
BrotherofHavok
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Posted - 2014.09.27 18:47:00 -
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CLONE ALPHA 001 wrote:why the reduction to the bolt pistol rate of fire?
because the bolt pistol is overpowered? 229 damage per shot means that you can pump out nearly 1000 points of damage a clip in about 2 seconds. Even more if you aim for their heads.
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2014.09.28 00:04:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7
You need more wolf mentality. Wolves don't go in the middle of the herd to get the prey. They skirt around the edges looking for the stranglers, the weaklings, and the stupid.
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Posted - 2014.09.28 01:57:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7
I call Shenanaginns on you!! or however its spelled... I do love me some sniping from time to time & Hot Fix Delta just gave some snipers some vulnerability yo!
Now that You've Tasted my Mutton.. How do you Like it!?!
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BrotherofHavok
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Posted - 2014.09.28 03:49:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7
Redline sniping has always been an issue. Not because they grant immunity or relative safety to snipers, but because they DON'T help the team enough. The reduction to range and the criticalness of headshots means that sniper have to get closer to avoid the range reduction AND to avoid lag. You have a higher risk of getting killed, but no where near as much as if you were charging at the enemy.
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SmokinRoses420
Bra's and Boxer's
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Posted - 2014.09.28 17:34:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7 Redline sniping has always been an issue. Not because they grant immunity or relative safety to snipers, but because they DON'T help the team enough. The reduction to range and the criticalness of headshots means that sniper have to get closer to avoid the range reduction AND to avoid lag. You have a higher risk of getting killed, but no where near as much as if you were charging at the enemy.
What's the point of having snipers in the game then. Because assaults just bin laden you when you're sitting there trying to have some fun. We've always had a high risk of being killed...not as much as assaults, but it's because we chose to be Snipers. Now it's just worse when you guys come up and get us. I'm sorry...But never heard of snipers going in the middle of the battle just to shoot someone. That's the whole point of being a sniper, hiding from your enemies in the hills where they can't see you. Now Dust made so we basically have to either sit there and watch or go inside of battle. That's not fair, just because assaults are complaining. It's not our fault the boards lag. That's either your net connection or Dust server lag..
All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and of course there's immature assaults trying to "prove" a point. I don't see a point in your argument there, sorry. |
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Posted - 2014.09.28 19:43:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7 Redline sniping has always been an issue. Not because they grant immunity or relative safety to snipers, but because they DON'T help the team enough. The reduction to range and the criticalness of headshots means that sniper have to get closer to avoid the range reduction AND to avoid lag. You have a higher risk of getting killed, but no where near as much as if you were charging at the enemy. What's the point of having snipers in the game then. Because assaults just bin laden you when you're sitting there trying to have some fun. We've always had a high risk of being killed...not as much as assaults, but it's because we chose to be Snipers. Now it's just worse when you guys come up and get us. I'm sorry...But never heard of snipers going in the middle of the battle just to shoot someone. That's the whole point of being a sniper, hiding from your enemies in the hills where they can't see you. Now Dust made so we basically have to either sit there and watch or go inside of battle. That's not fair, just because assaults are complaining. It's not our fault the boards lag. That's either your net connection or Dust server lag.. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and of course there's immature assaults trying to "prove" a point. I don't see a point in your argument there, sorry.
Were you at least a part of the pre-Delta Sniper Sticky discussion? Because thats where all the snipers had their chance to influence any decisions on all changes proposed for the sniper rifle in HotFix Delta.
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BrotherofHavok
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Posted - 2014.09.28 20:20:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7 Redline sniping has always been an issue. Not because they grant immunity or relative safety to snipers, but because they DON'T help the team enough. The reduction to range and the criticalness of headshots means that sniper have to get closer to avoid the range reduction AND to avoid lag. You have a higher risk of getting killed, but no where near as much as if you were charging at the enemy. What's the point of having snipers in the game then. Because assaults just bin laden you when you're sitting there trying to have some fun. We've always had a high risk of being killed...not as much as assaults, but it's because we chose to be Snipers. Now it's just worse when you guys come up and get us. I'm sorry...But never heard of snipers going in the middle of the battle just to shoot someone. That's the whole point of being a sniper, hiding from your enemies in the hills where they can't see you. Now Dust made so we basically have to either sit there and watch or go inside of battle. That's not fair, just because assaults are complaining. It's not our fault the boards lag. That's either your net connection or Dust server lag.. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and of course there's immature assaults trying to "prove" a point. I don't see a point in your argument there, sorry.
I'm not sure you know how to snipe good sir. The point of a sniper is to provide either covering fire or tactical kills. In other words, either help the team accomplish it's goals or kill key targets. Just because you get a range reduction does not mean that you have to be "in the battle" unless you're talking about what it takes to be able to see your targets or an area that your team needs to take.
As far as the Risk goes for snipers there is one thing that I want to say to you and all those snipers that REGULARLY get killed when sniping. Be aware of your surroundings. Actual trained snipers are taught to use their peripheral vision so as to detect enemy movement. If you're camped on a building watch the skies and occasionally go by the ladder and check it. It's really simple, you can even do that while you're reloading. If you're in the hills move every once in a while. Snipers are most often killed by counter sniping so it doesn't hurt to change your position to make it harder to pinpoint you. The risk that you're talking about only really comes about when you get lazy and relaxed. You're "in battle" so you cannot afford to take it easy.
Sincerely,
Your Multi-purpose Everything User
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SmokinRoses420
Bra's and Boxer's
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Posted - 2014.09.28 23:54:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:I and a few other Snipers have had a displeasing experience with the new hotfix regarding the Sniper Rifle distance to shoot. Overall, I thought you guys did a great hotfix. I like that you gave us snipers more rounds in our Kaali Sniper rifles. But, the distance to shoot is way too short. You can't do anything to help your team out. (Well, most assaults would disagree...but I would fight on that argument. :P) Most times assaults don't go and hack the letters closet to us, because they know we can't shoot them in the middle.
In order to shoot anybody in game, you either have to, become an assault, get a tank out, or move to the middle of battle. In which moving to the middle of battle has "TARGET" written all over your for-head. Becoming an assault is defeating the purpose of being a sniper. So it would be nice to increase the range of where we can shoot.
SmokinRoses o7 Redline sniping has always been an issue. Not because they grant immunity or relative safety to snipers, but because they DON'T help the team enough. The reduction to range and the criticalness of headshots means that sniper have to get closer to avoid the range reduction AND to avoid lag. You have a higher risk of getting killed, but no where near as much as if you were charging at the enemy. What's the point of having snipers in the game then. Because assaults just bin laden you when you're sitting there trying to have some fun. We've always had a high risk of being killed...not as much as assaults, but it's because we chose to be Snipers. Now it's just worse when you guys come up and get us. I'm sorry...But never heard of snipers going in the middle of the battle just to shoot someone. That's the whole point of being a sniper, hiding from your enemies in the hills where they can't see you. Now Dust made so we basically have to either sit there and watch or go inside of battle. That's not fair, just because assaults are complaining. It's not our fault the boards lag. That's either your net connection or Dust server lag.. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and of course there's immature assaults trying to "prove" a point. I don't see a point in your argument there, sorry. I'm not sure you know how to snipe good sir. The point of a sniper is to provide either covering fire or tactical kills. In other words, either help the team accomplish it's goals or kill key targets. Just because you get a range reduction does not mean that you have to be "in the battle" unless you're talking about what it takes to be able to see your targets or an area that your team needs to take. As far as the Risk goes for snipers there is one thing that I want to say to you and all those snipers that REGULARLY get killed when sniping. Be aware of your surroundings. Actual trained snipers are taught to use their peripheral vision so as to detect enemy movement. If you're camped on a building watch the skies and occasionally go by the ladder and check it. It's really simple, you can even do that while you're reloading. If you're in the hills move every once in a while. Snipers are most often killed by counter sniping so it doesn't hurt to change your position to make it harder to pinpoint you. The risk that you're talking about only really comes about when you get lazy and relaxed. You're "in battle" so you cannot afford to take it easy.
Well thanks for your thoughtful insights on this. But you guys are going to find out pretty quick on how us Snipers helped you guys, when either hacking letters, or equipment. And no, you don't expect snipers to go into battle with a sniper rifle, because being a sniper you don't have the defense being in the middle. No protection from having just a sniper rifle. Only time you see snipers in the middle of battle is when the other side has all letters, and is farming. So that's kind of really defending the purpose of being a sniper again.
I know how to snipe, I'm not perfect at it, but it's fun. I don't think you understand what a sniper is. So don't come crying to us when you see your K/D ratio sky rocketing. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and no I never knew about the discussion about sniper rifles. We encounter snipers all the time, either we get shot by em, or the opposite. And no, that's not my point. I don't see how making the game fun when you're actually able to help your team out, is being "lazy and relaxed"...We actually help the team out as much as we can. But now it makes it harder to do so. |
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Posted - 2014.09.29 03:49:00 -
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Well thanks for your thoughtful insights on this. But you guys are going to find out pretty quick on how us Snipers helped you guys, when either hacking letters, or equipment. And no, you don't expect snipers to go into battle with a sniper rifle, because being a sniper you don't have the defense being in the middle. No protection from having just a sniper rifle. Only time you see snipers in the middle of battle is when the other side has all letters, and is farming. So that's kind of really defending the purpose of being a sniper again.
I know how to snipe, I'm not perfect at it, but it's fun. I don't think you understand what a sniper is. So don't come crying to us when you see your K/D ratio sky rocketing. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and no I never knew about the discussion about sniper rifles. We encounter snipers all the time, either we get shot by em, or the opposite. And no, that's not my point. I don't see how making the game fun when you're actually able to help your team out, is being "lazy and relaxed"...We actually help the team out as much as we can. But now it makes it harder to do so.
Here's my problem. "Us snipers helped you guys" is a big assumption of ALL snipers. As a fellow sniper at one point (look at the bottom of my posts. I am a multi-purpose everything user. I've used every gun and every type of suit at some point in the game) I can tell you that the MAJORITY of maps do not provide decent enough spots for a sniper to assist with hacking a point. There are moments where it can be helpful i will admit, but most of those times involve either sniping from a place that you cannot get to by normal means (dropship only access), being in relatively close ranges for a sniper, or sniping just anyone that comes across your line of sight and not any of those near the points. Most snipers are not helpful, most snipers are just there to earn some kills, isk and sp, and most likely are sitting in the hills far in the redline.
I've sniped and for quite a while I was good at it. So good at it in fact that it was one of the few weapons that I actually put SP into beyond the operation skill. Eventually however i figured out that the main problem with being a sniper was that the lag affected what I saw at extreme ranges. When players go back and forth on the screen but squad mates tell me that they're just standing there. Lag always forced me to ranges of less than 200 meters so I honestly don't understand why people complain when 100 meters is taken off the ranges of sniper rifles, especially when you look at the HUGE damage buff to head shots. Being at 125-200 meters from someone forced me to learn some big lessons and eventually i was becoming so good at being a sniper that I was even invited to a "shadow corp" that was devoted to sniping. I had matches where I went as high as 60 kills and average death of about 1. But i got bored, and moved on. Sniping can have its moments, but most snipers are not "helpful". And as far as a skyrocket of my k/d spread goes? I have absolutely no problems doing well with or without the assistance of another player.
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SmokinRoses420
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Posted - 2014.09.29 07:00:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Well thanks for your thoughtful insights on this. But you guys are going to find out pretty quick on how us Snipers helped you guys, when either hacking letters, or equipment. And no, you don't expect snipers to go into battle with a sniper rifle, because being a sniper you don't have the defense being in the middle. No protection from having just a sniper rifle. Only time you see snipers in the middle of battle is when the other side has all letters, and is farming. So that's kind of really defending the purpose of being a sniper again.
I know how to snipe, I'm not perfect at it, but it's fun. I don't think you understand what a sniper is. So don't come crying to us when you see your K/D ratio sky rocketing. All I was doing was pointing out an issue, and no I never knew about the discussion about sniper rifles. We encounter snipers all the time, either we get shot by em, or the opposite. And no, that's not my point. I don't see how making the game fun when you're actually able to help your team out, is being "lazy and relaxed"...We actually help the team out as much as we can. But now it makes it harder to do so.
Here's my problem. "Us snipers helped you guys" is a big assumption of ALL snipers. As a fellow sniper at one point (look at the bottom of my posts. I am a multi-purpose everything user. I've used every gun and every type of suit at some point in the game) I can tell you that the MAJORITY of maps do not provide decent enough spots for a sniper to assist with hacking a point. There are moments where it can be helpful i will admit, but most of those times involve either sniping from a place that you cannot get to by normal means (dropship only access), being in relatively close ranges for a sniper, or sniping just anyone that comes across your line of sight and not any of those near the points. Most snipers are not helpful, most snipers are just there to earn some kills, isk and sp, and most likely are sitting in the hills far in the redline. I've sniped and for quite a while I was good at it. So good at it in fact that it was one of the few weapons that I actually put SP into beyond the operation skill. Eventually however i figured out that the main problem with being a sniper was that the lag affected what I saw at extreme ranges. When players go back and forth on the screen but squad mates tell me that they're just standing there. Lag always forced me to ranges of less than 200 meters so I honestly don't understand why people complain when 100 meters is taken off the ranges of sniper rifles, especially when you look at the HUGE damage buff to head shots. Being at 125-200 meters from someone forced me to learn some big lessons and eventually i was becoming so good at being a sniper that I was even invited to a "shadow corp" that was devoted to sniping. I had matches where I went as high as 60 kills and average death of about 1. But i got bored, and moved on. Sniping can have its moments, but most snipers are not "helpful". And as far as a skyrocket of my k/d spread goes? I have absolutely no problems doing well with or without the assistance of another player.
Just because you used "All weapons, suits" doesn't make you an expert. I'm sorry you had a bad experience being a sniper. You are making it into something totally different, just out of your understandings. I think you're just going to keep grouching about it since I'm not doing or agreeing to what you are saying. My father was asked to be on Hellstorms for their snipers...so umm yeah I don't see how snipers are useless. Kind of hypocritical of you to say.
I'm not saying Snipers should reach ALL the way across the board, in which would be cool. But wouldn't be fair to everyone. All I'm saying is increase it teeny bit. It's bad when my assault rifle shoots almost farther then my sniper rifle. I don't see how that can be possible to be honest. And for your information, yes I do use assault, I'm not just a sniper. I'm experienced most of everything. Just never the super heavy suits and heavy machine guns etc.. And you can't tell me that a sniper can't keep one letter safe. You assaults can't see ALL letters at one time. And as being a tank driver...Most assaults really suck just standing there acting like they can beat a tank up with a gun. Kind of funny, but sad. But just the point is...your taking it out of content. That is not my point in my text.
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BrotherofHavok
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Just because you used "All weapons, suits" doesn't make you an expert. I'm sorry you had a bad experience being a sniper. You are making it into something totally different, just out of your understandings. I think you're just going to keep grouching about it since I'm not doing or agreeing to what you are saying. My father was asked to be on Hellstorms for their snipers...so umm yeah I don't see how snipers are useless. Kind of hypocritical of you to say.
I'm not saying Snipers should reach ALL the way across the board, in which would be cool. But wouldn't be fair to everyone. All I'm saying is increase it teeny bit. It's bad when my assault rifle shoots almost farther then my sniper rifle. I don't see how that can be possible to be honest. And for your information, yes I do use assault, I'm not just a sniper. I'm experienced most of everything. Just never the super heavy suits and heavy machine guns etc.. And you can't tell me that a sniper can't keep one letter safe. You assaults can't see ALL letters at one time. And as being a tank driver...Most assaults really suck just standing there acting like they can beat a tank up with a gun. Kind of funny, but sad. But just the point is...your taking it out of content. That is not my point in my text.
- I would in fact say that I qualify for expert status with a sniper rifle when I can go 60 and 2 k/d spread.
- My "bad experience" only qualifies if you think that I wanted to snipe from the redline and was hit by BS lag. Most of the time I was not in the redline. Most of the time I had good experiences and a lot of fun.
- Once more, MOST snipers are useless. Those who love to camp on top of buildings in far off places or near/in the redline or those who can't understand that the points are covered (building or blocked views). People that would use a thale just so that they could "safely" snipe their targets from a far away place. That could still be helpful, but most of the time Snipers are just looking for kills.
- "increase it a teeny bit" why? Are you aiming for the body more than the head? They reduced the effectiveness of body shots, but they massively up the critical head shot damage. Even at extreme ranges the efficiency of a head shot is about 120%. This means that what you actually want is not the range increase but the normal body shot increase.
- The only sniper rifle to get it's range cut significantly is the Tactical sniper rifle because it was meant to be used in closer ranges. The normal sniper rifle and the charge sniper rifle still have about 350 meter ranges if i'm not mistaken.
- ARs shoot farther than sniper rifles? What info are you using?
- Keeping a point safe. How? Most of the points on a number of maps are surrounded by buildings, or are in a building. Even if they are in the wide open, the null canon will block a number of your shots unless you get the absolute sweet spot or your console has a discrepancy with another console and just says that the shot hit when in reality it didn't.
- You're right, the assaults can't see every letter (is your assumption that everyone uses assault all the time?) but they can get to every point. And if someone decides to play defense then they're usually more worth it to the team than a sniper trying to cover the same point. Especially if the enemy that comes around is using cloaks.
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BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Just because you used "All weapons, suits" doesn't make you an expert. I'm sorry you had a bad experience being a sniper. You are making it into something totally different, just out of your understandings. I think you're just going to keep grouching about it since I'm not doing or agreeing to what you are saying. My father was asked to be on Hellstorms for their snipers...so umm yeah I don't see how snipers are useless. Kind of hypocritical of you to say.
I'm not saying Snipers should reach ALL the way across the board, in which would be cool. But wouldn't be fair to everyone. All I'm saying is increase it teeny bit. It's bad when my assault rifle shoots almost farther then my sniper rifle. I don't see how that can be possible to be honest. And for your information, yes I do use assault, I'm not just a sniper. I'm experienced most of everything. Just never the super heavy suits and heavy machine guns etc.. And you can't tell me that a sniper can't keep one letter safe. You assaults can't see ALL letters at one time. And as being a tank driver...Most assaults really suck just standing there acting like they can beat a tank up with a gun. Kind of funny, but sad. But just the point is...your taking it out of content. That is not my point in my text.
- I would in fact say that I qualify for expert status with a sniper rifle when I can go 60 and 2 k/d spread.
- My "bad experience" only qualifies if you think that I wanted to snipe from the redline and was hit by BS lag. Most of the time I was not in the redline. Most of the time I had good experiences and a lot of fun.
- Once more, MOST snipers are useless. Those who love to camp on top of buildings in far off places or near/in the redline or those who can't understand that the points are covered (building or blocked views). People that would use a thale just so that they could "safely" snipe their targets from a far away place. That could still be helpful, but most of the time Snipers are just looking for kills.
- "increase it a teeny bit" why? Are you aiming for the body more than the head? They reduced the effectiveness of body shots, but they massively up the critical head shot damage. Even at extreme ranges the efficiency of a head shot is about 120%. This means that what you actually want is not the range increase but the normal body shot increase.
- The only sniper rifle to get it's range cut significantly is the Tactical sniper rifle because it was meant to be used in closer ranges. The normal sniper rifle and the charge sniper rifle still have about 350 meter ranges if i'm not mistaken.
- ARs shoot farther than sniper rifles? What info are you using?
- Keeping a point safe. How? Most of the points on a number of maps are surrounded by buildings, or are in a building. Even if they are in the wide open, the null canon will block a number of your shots unless you get the absolute sweet spot or your console has a discrepancy with another console and just says that the shot hit when in reality it didn't.
- You're right, the assaults can't see every letter (is your assumption that everyone uses assault all the time?) but they can get to every point. And if someone decides to play defense then they're usually more worth it to the team than a sniper trying to cover the same point. Especially if the enemy that comes around is using cloaks.
Lol, and again you are still taking it totally out of content, and twisting my words. I've never said a lot of the things that you mentioned here. Like I said it's pointless trying to argue with you because you don't understand. You keep putting it in assault view, not sniper view. So basically you assaults got your wish. *Claps* Bravo. |
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Lol, and again you are still taking it totally out of content, and twisting my words. I've never said a lot of the things that you mentioned here. Like I said it's pointless trying to argue with you because you don't understand. You keep putting it in assault view, not sniper view. So basically you assaults got your wish. *Claps* Bravo.
WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
You don't provide any reasoning or facts behind what you say. You want an increase in range of sniper rifles RIGHT AFTER they decreased the range, but don't provide specifics as to why. You refuse to understand from CCP's point or another players point even when I provided some reasons as to why I like the changes and how it brings snipers more into the fold of battle rather than just as a redline or rooftop camper sniper. Yes, it's the job of a sniper to snipe people, but they need to provide sniper support to areas that are critical to their own squads work or the teams. If a sniper is sniping at people in the redline, but ignores the scout that runs to the point across open terrain to hack the point, then that sniper is not helpful to the team.
You say that I'm twisting your words. How can I do that when I'm directly quoting you and providing a counter argument?
You say that I don't understand. Why is that? Is it because you're not being clear as to why you want the range increase? Is it because you've been unable to get kills any more due to the changes? Is it because you like sitting with relatively low risk and taking head shots at enemies? Is it because your definition of a sniper is different to my own? Is it different to the military's?
And stop calling me an assault. I was a logi first, an assault briefly, a heavy 3rd, a sniper 4th, a scout 5th, a tanker 6th, and a dropship pilot 7th. I'm not one thing, i've been everything.
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BrotherofHavok wrote:SmokinRoses420 wrote:
Lol, and again you are still taking it totally out of content, and twisting my words. I've never said a lot of the things that you mentioned here. Like I said it's pointless trying to argue with you because you don't understand. You keep putting it in assault view, not sniper view. So basically you assaults got your wish. *Claps* Bravo.
WHAT THE **** ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? You don't provide any reasoning or facts behind what you say. You want an increase in range of sniper rifles RIGHT AFTER they decreased the range, but don't provide specifics as to why. You refuse to understand from CCP's point or another players point even when I provided some reasons as to why I like the changes and how it brings snipers more into the fold of battle rather than just as a redline or rooftop camper sniper. Yes, it's the job of a sniper to snipe people, but they need to provide sniper support to areas that are critical to their own squads work or the teams. If a sniper is sniping at people in the redline, but ignores the scout that runs to the point across open terrain to hack the point, then that sniper is not helpful to the team. You say that I'm twisting your words. How can I do that when I'm directly quoting you and providing a counter argument? You say that I don't understand. Why is that? Is it because you're not being clear as to why you want the range increase? Is it because you've been unable to get kills any more due to the changes? Is it because you like sitting with relatively low risk and taking head shots at enemies? Is it because your definition of a sniper is different to my own? Is it different to the military's? And stop calling me an assault. I was a logi first, an assault briefly, a heavy 3rd, a sniper 4th, a scout 5th, a tanker 6th, and a dropship pilot 7th. I'm not one thing, i've been everything.
No need for cussing. I've put my point out there clearly as to why I want the range changed a bit. I'm not the only sniper that is having a difficulty adjusting or recognizing this change. We shouldn't be in the middle of battle just to kill people. I've seen so many snipers in Local chats complaining about, so I figured I'd ask about it. But now I get grief from someone who thinks they know what CCP's point is in this. I already stated it multiple times in my replies as to why I wish for them to increase it a little bit. Also, never directly called you an assault, sorry if that offended you. I was talking about assaults in general.
I don't hear assaults griping about other assaults going behind them killing them. But no matter what I think, you'll think I'm wrong. You guys think snipers shouldn't be in the game, and we think we should.
For your information: snip-+er (snpr)
n.
1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
2. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
I don't see anywhere where it says standing in the middle of battle to fight... A sniper does a lot of good in battle not just standing there "camping". For instance, I use to be able to see the hole battle field and tell the tank operator in my squad where the other tanks are and/or if a Turrets is red. And to tell my squad member's who's attacking which letter and if someone needs help. We don't just sit there to shoot, a lot of times we're not shooting people. We observe our surroundings, which helped us determine what needs done, and what we can do to help.
It isn't going to matter what else I say though, because it's obvious a lot of people don't want snipers in the game. But I really could care less, it's the point we shouldn't be in the middle of battle to help our team out, it's the whole point of being a sniper.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:
No need for cussing.
You are right, i'm sorry for cussing. I was just becoming aggravated with a troll on the Dust 514 forums who thinks that everyone is out to get him removed from the game.
P.S. Due to the large number of quotes used, and lack of remaining characters there will be far more posts to break up my "rough draft" of my response....
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I've put my point out there clearly as to why I want the range changed a bit.
I'm not sure that you have. I've reread all the previous points in this topic and have yet to understand what it is that you want. Are you saying that you want the range increase to go back to the way it was so that you can REMAIN in the red-line? Or are you saying that you want the range increased beyond that so that you can sit as far from the enemy as possible so that they cannot "bin-laden" you? Are the current ranges so short that you cannot get a single kill without being 30 meters away from an enemy? Because that's about the optimal range of the AR.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I'm not the only sniper that is having a difficulty adjusting or recognizing this change.
To those of you who cannot "recognize" that a change has occurred. One has. To the rest of you that are having trouble "adjusting" to said change i say this to you. Adapt. Both life and video games change on a daily basis and as such you should learn to overcome changes. Grow into the man or woman that you will one day become.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:We shouldn't be in the middle of battle just to kill people.
What is the middle of battle to you? If it's outside of the red-line then you and I finally agree on something. If however, you're talking about being within 50-100 meters from the enemy then I wonder what a sniper is doing that close to the enemy. That is not the territory of a sniper rifle, but rather of a rail rifle, or a scrambler rifle or even a tactical AR.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I've seen so many snipers in Local chats complaining about, so I figured I'd ask about it. But now I get grief from someone who thinks they know what CCP's point is in this.
People complain. Get use to it.
As to CCP, please review the topics in other parts of THIS forum. They asked players what should be changed, they asked how the changes should be made and the changes were not unknown. Maybe you didn't read the forum until you had something to whine about, that's on you. CCP [NOW] regularly asks it's players what it should do to better it's games and you should be a part of that BEFORE you encounter a problem, not after.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I already stated it multiple times in my replies as to why I wish for them to increase it a little bit.
See the post #84. You haven't and i'm still waiting on info.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:Also, never directly called you an assault, sorry if that offended you. I was talking about assaults in general.
You have on several posts and i do not take offense. Instead i take a growing annoyance.
"Assaults in general." This is another confusing statement as assaults have only recently come back in numbers to the game with hotfix Charlie (i believe). I think you're using the term 'assaults' in a form that resembles "us" versus "them." Don't do that... please.
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SmokinRoses420 wrote:I don't hear assaults griping about other assaults going behind them killing them. But no matter what I think, you'll think I'm wrong.
Welcome to the Dust 514 forums. You're clearly new here and as such I recommend that you read some of the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of locked topics that clearly contain within the number of complaints of people being killed by someone else. You are clearly very, VERY new here. Please use the search engine at your earliest convenience.
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