After flying a few matches in Delta, I've returned with a decent speculation and data on the ADS, and what went horribly wrong with it.

My first match I played on the twin towers map. I called her in about 1/4 of the way through the match, got six kills, then came three mexicans (they were in a Latino corp) with AV to camp on said towers.

two of them were forges, bad ones at that, one was a swarmer. There was also a rammer after me, but he failed miserably.

After they had set up camping on the towers I was completely useless. They managed to shoot me down once, but I, being the yolfswag guy I am, called in a second one, only to be forced back to the red by the rammer, whom I shot down.


And even with being rendered completely useless because of over AV, I still got hate mail (score one for weakened pilots baby)!

Anyway, second match I played infinitely more cautious. I even used my pilot suit (rail rifle and two range amps works wonders). dropped 16-0 despite being hounded by militia swarms wherever I turned, which is not to say we're still OP.

The swarmers were poorly positioned, I also had buildings to hide behind, add to the fact that they were militia kind of helped, even though they were spaced no less than 20 meters from each other at one point.

Anyway, my review:

1) I did not see any reduction to PG/CPU or price of small turrets, and I checked.

2) The python bonus, as I predicted, is complete and utter crap, the incubus can hold more tank and even fit a better AB than the python, and all I have to sacrifice for it is a little ROF (.18 ROF, to be exact).

3) nerfing the ROF on incubus by that much, also useless. and there was also a heat increase, only 7 shots were able to come out when I used it, and it overheated.

4) I will say that AB cooldown is not as bad as I predicted, it's still pretty bad though.

5) due to the increase of acceleration and speed of swarms, ducking behind a building is pretty useless, even with the homing nerf, I can probably get maybe two to hit the side of a building if I'm lucky.

Anyway, that's the review.

Definitely. Went 37/1 in the last week or so (can't remember when exactly) in a STD CalSent with STD HMG, but that apparently isn't OP, even though it cost 13k ISK. There is no substitute for skill (not SP; actual skill.)

CCP Rattati didn't run it by us, I don't think. I think if he did, I'd remember it. Or I'm absent-minded, also possible.

Indeed, as Resistance says, the new ROF 'bonus' (charitable to call it a bonus for 2.48m SP)is terrible.

Railgun ROF is 92; or 1.53 shots per second; 8 shots and overheats in 5.2 seconds; 668 DPS
Incubus 5 ROF is 105.8; or 1.808 shots per second; 9 shots and overheats in 4.98 seconds; 781.9 DPS

That actually doesn't look that bad, but something is wrong with how its actually playing: were only getting 7 shots.

Fiddling with some numbers I think that the small railguns are firing correctly, but the Incubus skill is applying incorrectly. It appears that the Incubus skill is applying inversely: the fire interval is 0.65 (60++0.65=92.3, the correct ROF as per patch notes) and with a 15% increase to ROF it should be firing at 0.5525 which is 0.65+ù0.85=0.5525 but is actually firing at 0.7475 which is the result of 0.65+ù1.15=0.7475 which would actually be a decrease in ROF.

With 0.5525 (ROF 108.5) we'd have 1.808 shots per second; 9 shots in 4.98 seconds; 781.9 DPS, which would be decent
What we currently have is 0.7475 (ROF 80.3) or 1.34 shots per second; 7 shots in 5.2 seconds; 607.8 DPS.

TL;DR:
Incubus ROF is bugged and applying at a 1.15 ratio instead of a 0.85, meaning the Incubus's railgun is firing slower than the regular railgun

Indeed, I did! The whole reason I ran the calculations is because I pulled out a Gunnlogi which could fire 8 rounds from the railgun, but my Incubus could only fire 7. The numbers I posted are the only explanation I can think of, unless Rattati is right that some heat build-up has been introduced alongside the ROF somehow.


Well, I don't have the calculations like you do, but I would theorise that the ROF bonus is implemented as a multiplier to the base weapon? If that assumption is correct, then it being changed from x0.5 (Charlie) to x1.15 could have been an accidental misidentification of to what the bonus is being applied to.

Is the bonus applied to ROF or fire interval? Because that would be a big difference: ROF would warrant a x1.15 multiplier whereas it being applied to the fire interval would be a x0.85 multiplier.