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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:23:00 -
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a brackers wrote: 1) Are you kidding me. Any time two mlt swarmers were on the field ourv ships died. 2) Now it takes one mlt swarmer.
1) Bullsh!t. 2) Bullsh!t.
Why make stuff up?
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Posted - 2014.09.25 18:36:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Shotty you available right now? Yep. Signing on.
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Posted - 2014.09.26 04:09:00 -
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^ Looks like that Swarmer has every advantage over the ADS! Pre-Delta, you say!?
Boggles the mind how ADS didn't drop like flies. Quite the opposite, in fact.
But that can't be. AV had so many advantages. :: scratches head ::
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Posted - 2014.09.26 16:44:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:THEPIMP NAMED SLICKBACK wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Plasma cannon is bonused for shields. Have you ever seen some use a plasma cannon for av Have you SEEN how the plasma cannon works now??? It's amazing!
Unless you're shooting it at infantry.
Used to be, you could adjust aim such that arc would account for target distance. Now, it either hits the target or whizzes by him.
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Posted - 2014.09.27 14:46:00 -
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XxGhazbaranxX wrote:Kaeru Nayiri wrote:My squad mate and I have never once failed to take out a vehicle between the two of us, tank, dropship or otherwise. He is a forge gunner and I am a wiyrikomi swarm launcher. We never found it unbalanced that the two of us could kill another player, his gunners and their vehicular equipment, it seemed quite fair. I am not saying this as an opinion on swarm buffs or dropship nerfs, but just that people need to stop saying things like "it was impossible to kill dropships before". We literally NEVER failed to take one out, together. I never had any trouble with ads when i was using my breach forgeand my friend was using his assault forge. Oj the other hand i had a friend with full mimando and swarm prodiciency to 5 that never failesd to kill his targets alone. whats the excuse that 99% of the community have? There is so much complaining but the peple complaining never specced completely into the role. You want to use swarms you need mimando 5 and swarm proficiency 5. The reality is and Judge, a cpm member has said it in his videos, that most of the times unskilled people are trying to kille fully skilled pilots. And thats when things go wrong and they get here and complain in the forums. Poor timing and poor skills equate to 0 kills. My mimando friend killa, not only because he is 100% skilled into his av weapon but because he know when to engage, which coincidently is not at first sight In what other instance is a weapon deadly only when wielded by a particular suit?
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Posted - 2014.09.27 17:59:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:I know that ADS were originally too fast for swarms which is why the swarms got the buff that they did. However, currently the ADS are at a huge disadvantage. Their inability to heavily tank means that the ADS are far more likely to go down to a single swarm launcher.
Maybe it's just me, but if you see swarms they're guaranteed to hit you no matter what kind of evasive flying you do. Pythons are unable to resistance the missiles or forge enough and incubus may be able to armor rep tank enough to survive but chances are slim especially if there are multiple av users.
A single swarmer will consistently crash a Python only if said Python lingers after being hit 3x while the Swarmer reloads (idiot pilot) or if the Python is hit by a second AV source (teamwork).
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Posted - 2014.09.27 19:18:00 -
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BrotherofHavok wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:BrotherofHavok wrote:I know that ADS were originally too fast for swarms which is why the swarms got the buff that they did. However, currently the ADS are at a huge disadvantage. Their inability to heavily tank means that the ADS are far more likely to go down to a single swarm launcher.
Maybe it's just me, but if you see swarms they're guaranteed to hit you no matter what kind of evasive flying you do. Pythons are unable to resistance the missiles or forge enough and incubus may be able to armor rep tank enough to survive but chances are slim especially if there are multiple av users. A single swarmer will consistently crash a Python only if said Python lingers after being hit 3x while the Swarmer reloads (idiot pilot) or if the Python is hit by a second AV source (teamwork). Are you sure? A few times that my python was taken own was due to a single swarm launcher and i'm not sure if he/she had to reload. As for being an idiot and sitting there i might be accused of doing so but that's only for the first shot. Most of the time the swarm launcher player and the swarms themselves won't become visible (latency issues) until after they hit me and they'll usually do about 1000 points of damage or more to my shields with just the 1 set of 4 swarms. The 2nd set is sure to hit me because i'm just pulling away and the 3rd set is almost sure to hit as well as long as there isn't any kind of lock on issues plaguing the enemy player.
No offense intended. Assuming optimal conditions, a clever swarmer may get 3 volleys onto target even if the pilot responds when first struck. The "idiot" in this scenario is the pilot who gets hit with those 3 volleys, then lingers about while the swarmer reloads, relocks and proceeds to place a 4th volley. The majority of Pythons I've encountered require 4+ volleys. Whether or not all Pythons require 4+ volleys I cannot say.
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Posted - 2014.09.27 19:22:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
You're going to get variance based on skill levels, and what modules the pilot has to sacrifice to make his playstyle viable.
ALMOST all pythons take 4 shots from pro swarms.
Just like ALMOST all ADS take three shots from an assault forge proto, PERIOD.
I have no reason to doubt this as factual. Again, my perspectives and experiences are limited to the Pythons I've encountered and engaged; I've yet to crash a single ADS of any kind with 3 proto volleys ... since 1.7 at least.
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