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The Master Race
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.22 05:31:00 -
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During this event I saw entire squads afking through matches, but at least they were trying to be worthless better than those dedicated red line snipers.
New, delicious, Soylent green the miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.
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iKILLu osborne
Z PLATOON CALDARI STATE PEACEMAKERS
320
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Posted - 2014.09.22 05:31:00 -
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they're good players simple as that, everyone of them slayers in their own right, but will change role if necessary, its called adaptability and that is why they win and the fact they enjoy shooting their gun(unlike most players)
"yeah i fought the redline it took it only 13 seconds....."
fought scotty too but something went wrong
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
899
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Posted - 2014.09.22 05:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:
The ability to afford millions of proto suits due to PC farming is OP.
Most of the people stomping got their ISK from the refunds that were handed out at the start of Uprising.
Got 180 mil back, still have 120, running tons of whatever I want....and still have 300 proto commando from the event lol. Money management is NOT a thing.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Omega Black Zero
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
99
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Posted - 2014.09.22 06:44:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:
And only the American members talk a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR5Z4n1TdSI
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
780
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Posted - 2014.09.22 07:42:00 -
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stick together, communicate, win.
its not rocket science and most other squads/corps could be as efficient if they took the time, also anythime i've come up against NS is when its been a bunch of random bluedots running non proto on our side. as you've mentioned if they come up against w.e.s.k.e.r stars, 1.up ect they can get their ass handed to them if opposition works as well together as they do
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
5105
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Posted - 2014.09.22 08:16:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:A part of it is because some people check the playerlist and just assume the match is lost. This happens with alot of the well established corps as well but NS got that next level "make bitchass player giveup" mystique. Instead of fighting back these hoes just give up and hand over the win or go into immediate KDR protection mode. Then its 9 or whatever vs 16 and that results in a stomp.
As far as Ambush and OMS are concerned, you can thank Uprising 1.7 for this beauty.
Pre-1.7
Back when a Nyain San squad meant 6 Slayer Logis, I'd make it a point to stick around and try my damndest of drop a couple of 'em. Were we going to win? Not a chance. Was I going to go positive trying? LolNo. But was I able claim my pound of flesh if I caught one the f*ckers offguard and got lucky. You bet your arse I was. So I gave it 110%.
Post-1.7
I backout of nearly 100% of OMS matches involving Nyain San, more often than not before the battle begins. I'm not concerned about Win/Loss, KDR, Isk efficiency, etc. Never have been. But I'm not going to burn 1/2 a million Isk on Proto AV if doing so accomplishes nothing.
Very much looking forward upcoming V/AV improvements. As soon as Rattati gets it right, you can count on this vet to stick it out and give 'em hell. Until then, I'm out. And I'd encourage you to do the same.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
813
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:03:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:stick together, communicate, win.
its not rocket science and most other squads/corps could be as efficient if they took the time, also anythime i've come up against NS is when its been a bunch of random bluedots running non proto on our side. as you've mentioned if they come up against w.e.s.k.e.r stars, 1.up ect they can get their ass handed to them if opposition works as well together as they do
Wesker stars???? Lol
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2953
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:04:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Anyway, back to the question. What does Nyain San do that makes them so proficient at pubstomping? In true EVE style:
- Establish steady, lucrative source of income
- Meta-Analysis
- Regular Team Play
- Voice-Comms
- Not giving a single **** about what anyone says about them
That is why I like them, and that is why they work.
This is it right here.
I don't bother hating them.
I just shoot them. Organized pubbies, disorganized pubbies...
You're all pretty much the same to me. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
263
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:13:00 -
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they use cloak scouts and play ambush 90% of matches
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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
559
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:22:00 -
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They all use solid state drives and they work together as one. |
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
2443
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:25:00 -
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Most of us in this English section of the forum probably don't reside in Asia, so the extra latency we experience on their servers compared to their crisp <40ms ping could be a factor.
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
381
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Posted - 2014.09.22 10:57:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:This event had me pitted against Nyain San for most of the matches I played. The only time I saw a squad of Nyain San lose was when they, along with a full squad of Skill of God, were up against another squad of Nyain San and a squad of 1.UP. It was one quick Ambush as the opposing NS squad and 1.UP cloned us even before we could take out 10 of their clones.
The only other corp I've faced that could compare to Nyain San's stomping efficiency is S.A.I.U.K.I, but I didn't come across them over the weekend and I'm a little saddened that I didn't. However, most other well-known pubstomping corps I've faced and teamed with do not measure up to the speed at which NS is able to dominate their opponents.
Although some would argue that Nyain San's tactics are scrubbish, they are in fact effective for pub matches. Moreover, they are consistent at what they do, and that deserves some praise.
Anyway, back to the question. What does Nyain San do that makes them so proficient at pubstomping?
Lol, no. No praise for power players that boil the game down into exploitation of the mechanics. This is what you get when instead of people who play in the spirit of the game simply find what works to win and spams the sh*t out of it. This is a weakness of game design and will never allow for balance.
Nyain San is mostly Japanese. We all know how they tend to think. If not I suggest looking up the word kamikaze. You think that mentality has changed? Then look up Japanese business during the 80's. That mentality saw Japanese businessmen end up in hospitals, burnt out and close to death due to over demanding work conditions. Oh yeah, look up Middle East terrorist too for an in-depth study of how to use cheap tactics for a cheap win.
No respect for such mentality.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3427
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:08:00 -
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^^^^^
You must not like Nyain San. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2642
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:29:00 -
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Lack of kdr matchmaking.
The sig is back! K/D(r) matchmaking would even fix the matchmaking fix.
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DarthPlagueis TheWise
61
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset.
This. They're like McDonald's employees. You've got to be a mindless zombie. |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
12269
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:33:00 -
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Because they're Asians.
I'm 1/4th chinese, hence I have Asian blood in me, hence I am superior.
But only 1/4th superior.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Vapor Forseti
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
1487
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:35:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:This event had me pitted against Nyain San for most of the matches I played. The only time I saw a squad of Nyain San lose was when they, along with a full squad of Skill of God, were up against another squad of Nyain San and a squad of 1.UP. It was one quick Ambush as the opposing NS squad and 1.UP cloned us even before we could take out 10 of their clones.
The only other corp I've faced that could compare to Nyain San's stomping efficiency is S.A.I.U.K.I, but I didn't come across them over the weekend and I'm a little saddened that I didn't. However, most other well-known pubstomping corps I've faced and teamed with do not measure up to the speed at which NS is able to dominate their opponents.
Although some would argue that Nyain San's tactics are scrubbish, they are in fact effective for pub matches. Moreover, they are consistent at what they do, and that deserves some praise.
Anyway, back to the question. What does Nyain San do that makes them so proficient at pubstomping? I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset.
I like this, a lot.
"I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." -One Eyed King
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Vapor Forseti
DIOS EX.
General Tso's Alliance
1487
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:39:00 -
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valad II wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:This event had me pitted against Nyain San for most of the matches I played. The only time I saw a squad of Nyain San lose was when they, along with a full squad of Skill of God, were up against another squad of Nyain San and a squad of 1.UP. It was one quick Ambush as the opposing NS squad and 1.UP cloned us even before we could take out 10 of their clones.
The only other corp I've faced that could compare to Nyain San's stomping efficiency is S.A.I.U.K.I, but I didn't come across them over the weekend and I'm a little saddened that I didn't. However, most other well-known pubstomping corps I've faced and teamed with do not measure up to the speed at which NS is able to dominate their opponents.
Although some would argue that Nyain San's tactics are scrubbish, they are in fact effective for pub matches. Moreover, they are consistent at what they do, and that deserves some praise.
Anyway, back to the question. What does Nyain San do that makes them so proficient at pubstomping? Team work & Communication are OP.
Heh.
Back in the days when I constantly squaded with Nyain San/Chan, it was more of throwing down a defend order then going crazy. You won't believe how honestly silent it is in their squads. I guess you can say that concentration is key.
"I think not having a heart or soul in this case is an asset." -One Eyed King
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Generic Gristle
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
0
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Posted - 2014.09.22 11:41:00 -
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well seeing as the thread is already deteriorating into casual racism;
the yanks all whine and ***** about crutches, bleat in chat and post on forums about how unfair the game is, before throwing their controller out of the window and then going out to score more *********.
nyain san just get on with it. |
Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
199
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Posted - 2014.09.22 12:20:00 -
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Generic Gristle wrote:well seeing as the thread is already deteriorating into casual racism;
the yanks all whine and ***** about crutches, bleat in chat and post on forums about how unfair the game is, before throwing their controller out of the window and then going out to score more *********.
nyain san just get on with it.
So much this. It was kane + escrow that set up the blue dougnut, teamplayers , A.E, Rainbow Effect and Nyan that stomped continuously and 1.UP being the new stompers on the block, but i dont hear any complaints about thier Internet connections or Euro/American upload speeds being super fast. I've got terrible connection and have used my phone as a wireless modem for about a month and had no problem keeping up with or killing anybody on any continent i played with. Having a fast connection isn't a crutch, its a a crutch excuse.
Pubstomping. It isnt magic.
Get a squad with 6 proto suits, a combination of Heavy, Logis and several Scouts. Shotgun scouts of course. 4 slayers and Two logis and have everybody equip needles that can.
Have enough ISK to be able to throw away those Proto Suits.
Save enough SP to change out to FOTM. Over time it becomes less necessary as you collect more and more suits. Buying boosters helps.
Good teamwork is key, and the top corps are very good at it.
You might stand up to them but the 8 or so newberries on yourside cant, leaving you more likley to be surrounded. If your squad can't pull out 6 proto to counter the other guys then you're in for a bad time.
Take away proto suits/weapons and these ''top corps' become very average. That being said, since so many players attempt to proto stomp somettimes you got to bring out the big guns to put them in thier place.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Valentine Crendre
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:01:00 -
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- ISK. (You should know why they have so much)
- Proto-gear.
- Knowledge of level layout (spawn points, etc. - low map variety/randomness allows this)
- Knowing how to take advantage of the flavor of the months, or any other advantages over the opposition.
Remember the Duvolle Tac AR and Cal Logi frames? Tanks? Now, Scouts and Heavy frames?
I know who does... |
Maur'ce Brutar
Merry and Hell
4
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Posted - 2014.09.22 13:21:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:A part of it is because some people check the playerlist and just assume the match is lost. This happens with alot of the well established corps as well but NS got that next level "make bitchass player giveup" mystique. Instead of fighting back these hoes just give up and hand over the win or go into immediate KDR protection mode. Then its 9 or whatever vs 16 and that results in a stomp.
Laughed at this way more than I should have.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
781
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:22:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:stick together, communicate, win.
its not rocket science and most other squads/corps could be as efficient if they took the time, also anythime i've come up against NS is when its been a bunch of random bluedots running non proto on our side. as you've mentioned if they come up against w.e.s.k.e.r stars, 1.up ect they can get their ass handed to them if opposition works as well together as they do Wesker stars???? Lol
av seen em give them a run for their money yeah. each squad was a scrubby as the other. i just stood back, slapped my six kin on some heavies and netted myself 3300wp in a 50ticket amb  tbh i'm not fussy who i go up against. i'm a logi. i'm used to dying and so when any of the stomping corps are up i'm in my sever suit with a six kin repper whoring war points
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
655
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:28:00 -
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All the Nyain San pubstomp hate is great. Keep it coming. It never gets old. |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
187
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:35:00 -
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first and foremost this is not a hate speech
teamwork can be op
also refusing to use anything but the most elite weapons and gimmicks and masters those mechanisms helps. doing so gives you the highest potential killing power. but for many it also takes the fun out of things. i seriously doubt they have fun in dust.
my reasoning is as follows. at least half of nyain san member i duel have above average gun game. a few of them could compete with the best i know. those select few are very fun duels. now my lets say meter for measuring skill in dust applies differently to everything. when i am dueling someone i look at several aspects.
the only way i can verify gungame is in long range engagements..thatnkfully most of nyain members are rr users and if pushed will commit to a long range duel. at range i can look at things like how aware are you of your health how is your strafing,,how would you counter be cornered.
most nyain san member run in groups and never leave squad formation..some of they're best do though and these are the guys i enjoy dueling.
personally i have no respect for the abuse of mechanics and use of the best choice atm. just because for me to do so with my lvl of skill would bore me out of dust. this is why i have never done so...because of this when i duel someone i am already at a disadvantage so again my measure of skill is odd.
i know on a one on one basis i could compete with any of them within my field of expertise
i also know that because i do not have the resources to vet a fully sinked squad of veteran players everytime i get on that if push comes to shove they can and will prohibit me from making isk.
a lone wolf sees things from a different perspective
nyain san is a deadly force as a whole they are skilled as a whole.
on an individual level i would not call most nyain members skilled..the fact of the matter is in known engagement ive taken down they're proto suits time and time again with a suit of weaker lvl (granted proto corp skills)
again i never judge the skill of a persons gun game..unless we are running the same area coverage..(no range advtantage or minimal) (both weapons are meant to handle the same situations) the engagement is KNOWN engagement meaning that both side know of the others presence and are actively focused on each other.
sometimes they do things that apall me like loosing to my lr on a gal assault with the same hp but being repped and flagged by a proto minnie logi and having a friend teamfiring ..granted teamwork when i kill him hes revived kill him to much and they will prioritize team firing me..which can then make me completely ineffective in that situation and have to reproach.
most often they win by abusing some random aspect of the game thats broken.
occasionally a few of them are worth they're metal one v one in every way.
anyways that my census a good corp all in all. they have many fine traits i know many of their member personally and have enjoyed squading with them from time to time..i miss allot of their old elites who no longer play. some of them i dont understand mostly those with my skill or higher who use whats easy..but then again thats just because i would never be able to stick with dust that bored...
the thrill of competing with people in an unbalaced game is what keeps me coming back to dust pvp over destiny as odd as that is to say..although i am curious if dust were balanced if i would just bore out..and leave...because ide probably feel ide mastered the game..as is running whats hard keeps me here.
i cherish the nyain san players who will swap to my weapon and try and compete with me on my lvl..because then they have to face that its not the gun that keeps killing them
its MORTEDEAMOR
ps to the part of the community that has less sp than i. i was to busy grinding strange coins and running the cruelest pvp gettup ive ever seen in destiny to do the event everyone just got 2 million sp that morte doesnt have..common guys catch up im waiting for a fair fight
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
When my master is banned I represent her wishes and that of the Mortimor famil
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Awesome Pantaloons
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
582
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:40:00 -
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Yackoff Smirnoff wrote:they summon a demon
^This. I'm pretty sure they perform a ritual sacrifice before playing Dust to call a berserk battle spirit upon themselves resulting in a blood frenzy free of remorse and fatigue and potty breaks.
"Awesome Pants don't care. Awesome Pants don't give a s**t."
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
909
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:43:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Yackoff Smirnoff wrote:they summon a demon ^This. I'm pretty sure they perform a ritual sacrifice before playing Dust to call a berserk battle spirit upon themselves resulting in a blood frenzy free of remorse and fatigue and potty breaks.
We summon Cthulhu
Nyain San/Chan Director
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
3644
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Posted - 2014.09.22 15:49:00 -
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Valentine Crendre wrote:- ISK. (You should know why they have so much)
- Proto-gear.
- Knowledge of level layout (spawn points, etc. - low map variety/randomness allows this)
- Knowing how to take advantage of the flavor of the months, or any other advantages over the opposition.
Remember the Duvolle Tac AR and Cal Logi frames? Tanks? Now, Scouts and Heavy frames?
I know who does...
Like you guys don't chase fotm 
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BlazeXYZ
xCosmic Voidx
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
231
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Posted - 2014.09.22 17:20:00 -
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Nyain San........left the battle
The Blazing Intellect Machine
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Omega Black Zero
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2014.09.22 20:45:00 -
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Part of the issue stems from blueberries who don't know when they should retreat. Been numerous times where I pulled a full on retreat from an obvious pincer attack, only to survive and watch 12 blueberries get slaughtered due to their bad positioning and awareness. |
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