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Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Looking at the pistols alone, it looks like you completely forgot that the SCP has a MASSIVE headshot bonus that overshadows any advantage any of the other pistols have.

Looking at the SMG.... still king... in every way.

Pistols in general are still terrible. There is no reason to use one instead of an SMG, except for maybe the Flaylock, because it will be a kill-viable equipment clearer now.

I've said it before. Pistols should be high DPS, low Magazine size, and unforgiving of missed shots. The very opposite of spray n pray.
SMGs should be all about spray n pray.

Still, it looks to me that the IoP will be the best pistol now. Oversampling will cut the practical DPS of the ScP in half, and the fact that the IoP will have enough RoF to prevent oversampling for the most part is a larger advantage than the headshot multiplier will ever be.

Tl;dr
Pistols are still ****, across the board. SMGs still the best, with the Breach SMG looking to be the best sidearm due to its increased ammo efficiency.


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Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12222	Posted - 2014.09.16 19:15:00 - [1] - Quote So um, what's the logic in increasing Ion Pistol PG and reducing CPU when Gallente are usually PG starved? You just killed off like, half my Assault suits with this tweak ya know. I'll gladly take an increase in CPU use if you really want to make them harder to fit, because, ya know, I have like 50 spare on all my assault suits. Whatever, I'll adapt I guess. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12222	Posted - 2014.09.16 19:31:00 - [2] - Quote Looking at the pistols alone, it looks like you completely forgot that the SCP has a MASSIVE headshot bonus that overshadows any advantage any of the other pistols have. Looking at the SMG.... still king... in every way. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12222	Posted - 2014.09.16 19:34:00 - [3] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Why decreasing the bolt pistol range??? All it needs is a range BUFF as it's already glitched within about 60meters.. I was looking forward to this hotfix just to see if there would be a fix to this. I am really disapointed. Ummm, it's not glitched. It does the damage it's supposed to do. Between optimal and effective range the amount of damage you do drops quite a lot, bolt pistol being no exception. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12223	Posted - 2014.09.16 20:49:00 - [4] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Looking at the pistols alone, it looks like you completely forgot that the SCP has a MASSIVE headshot bonus that overshadows any advantage any of the other pistols have. Looking at the SMG.... still king... in every way. Pistols in general are still terrible. There is no reason to use one instead of an SMG, except for maybe the Flaylock, because it will be a kill-viable equipment clearer now. I've said it before. Pistols should be high DPS, low Magazine size, and unforgiving of missed shots. The very opposite of spray n pray. SMGs should be all about spray n pray. Still, it looks to me that the IoP will be the best pistol now. Oversampling will cut the practical DPS of the ScP in half, and the fact that the IoP will have enough RoF to prevent oversampling for the most part is a larger advantage than the headshot multiplier will ever be. Tl;dr Pistols are still ****, across the board. SMGs still the best, with the Breach SMG looking to be the best sidearm due to its increased ammo efficiency. Meh, doubt that the IoP will be the best. That headshot multiplier cannot be underestimated. And the ROF isn't quite high enough to not have oversampling. TAR has 400RPM and I still oversample it HARD, I don't think an extra 50RPM will turn it from HARD to None. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12234	Posted - 2014.09.17 06:33:00 - [5] - Quote Roflmao new bolt pistol with 250 damage. Dat alpha. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12234	Posted - 2014.09.17 06:34:00 - [6] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Based on quality feedback we modified our proposals PG reduced on Flaylock, CPU increased, dmg and radius reduced a little, 200% headshot dmg bonus Increased AS Scrambler Pistol ROF to differentiate better between assault and normal SCP Bolt Pistol, recalculated based on charge time, basically increased damage by a lot. Increased range as well, plus 250% headshot dmg bonus Ion, reduced seize from 3.5 to 1.5, 150% headshot bonus Thanks for the bolt pistol changes! Now it's gonna get competitive with other sidearms. It was competitive with the ion and the flaylock Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12234	Posted - 2014.09.17 06:36:00 - [7] - Quote Might want to decrease bolt pistol shots per clip to 5 as it now has the highest damage per clip from the pistols. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 12238	Posted - 2014.09.18 07:40:00 - [8] - Quote Kosakai wrote: why nerfing already bad bolt pistol???!! Um, the damage was nearly doubled. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC