Im not sure I understand those charts, maybe others dont as well.

Im all for ads having a harder time, increased time away from battle AB cd increase blah blah blah. Even taking more hits . They dont need to blow up just keeping them away from everything is enough to keep me happy.

Could you explain the charts a little more? In idiot terms for me lol

My main char is infantry only. My alt is ADS only. I know both sides. And I don't think either is OP or UP. ADSs are as effective as costly.

The way I understand these changes is that an invisible (not rendering) Min commando with damage modded swarms can easily destroy an ADS (e.g. a Python in this case) in 3 volleys and if the ADS pilot is not lucky enough to be further away than 90m and/or already moving away from the swarmer, he is toast.

If you think that ADSs are OP why do you then contribute to the already rampant alpha damage escalation by buffing swarms instead of tuning down the effectiveness of ADSs first? You did so by increasing the cooldown of ABs, which I support. But why don't we tune down the 10% damage and 50% ROF bonus of ADSs, thus making them less effective, first?

As an ADS pilot I always feel sucker-punched everytime I die because in most cases I did not see it coming and this is far from being fun.

And on the other side I feel no empathy at all for those idiots who can see and hear an ADS coming from miles away and still decide to move across open ground with no cover and no AV support.

Any chance you're going to look at the Forge Gun?

Right now the big issue with FG vs ADS is them easily escaping by flying up to the ceiling and max ranging the FG. Any possible way you could look into increasing the max range of the FG?

IMO the damage, charge time, etc are all fine but as soon as the ADS exceeds that max range by flying up for a few seconds it's completely impervious to the FG.

Question about the first chart: why are Swarms 2/3/4 in a vertical line, unlike the second chart?

Well, Rattati, I'll try to give you a decent review, or hopefully some useful insight. I'll confess I'm not too good at reading charts, but I think I get the gist of it. But before that, I'm going to put in a paragraph concerning why you seem so stressed with the V/AV community, so if you don't want to hear it, skip the next paragraph.

Here, to calm you down.

Anyway, the reason you're seem so screwy with this is probably (may not be right) the fact that these two communities are comparable to the Capuletes and the Montagues of Romeo and Juliet (Not sure how to spell those family names right). We're not going to get along for damn near anything. My advice is to take the proposals of the tin foil wearers from both sides, cut it in half, and you should be getting a little closer to a decent balance, and then just let him be a tard.

BACK ON TOPIC!

On the swarm speed charts. If I'm reading them right, it looks good to me, but there is a few issues, which is lack of data or responses in other areas.

I'm fairly certain that most ADS pilots are ticked about the swarm buff because they didn't read about the homing nerf. You may want to offer a little more data in that area, because to be honest, I can't offer any reasonable feedback without a little more data in that area, also the ability to try this out myself, but that's not important right now, is it?

Another important bit I read was that you want ADS to be a hit and run vehicle, but the fact that there is no one saying anything about the rendering issue we face. If we're supposed to be a hit and run role, then we need to be able to hit and run effectively. Currently, as it stands, I have to hover in an area I know a swarmer is in order to have him render, in that time he has enough time to shoot a volley of swarms at me.

But anyway TL:DR version, the swarms acceleration buff seems reasonable enough to me, but I'd like a little more data in the other areas you've discussed before I can offer anything solid.

The only comment previous to this was mine, and how was it bickering or off-topic?

ADS can no longer hover, so they have to keep moving, but gunners have a hard time hitting targets while the ADS moves, so I ask for stabilization.

About rendering problems: we have noticed that many of the pilots and gunners sit in a dropship with sniper rifles.
Once verified, we found that the distance of drawing objects (infantry on far ground) is significantly improved.
I hope that these observations may help in this situation.

I'd like to see the proposed changes for HF Delta applied to the Assault Swarm Launcher as opposed to all of the Swarms. That way, the ASL would have a purpose that make sense within the context of an Assault variant.