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LT SHANKS wrote:

a lot of times the opponents I face are too easy. I suspect many are new to the knifing game and that their approaches to knife battles will improve over time, but I can't help but feel a little dissatisfied with the outcomes of the majority of my bouts.

I often think to myself, "hell yeah, let's dance all day," but as soon as they come in for the first attack, they are usually dropped with minimal effort on my part. It seems to me that many knifers are too hasty with their methods.

They often employ the sprint jump charge attack but often overshoot their destinations or are easily evaded by a simple side-step. Another thing I noticed is that they always want to be the first to attack. While I do agree that attacking first will prove favorable for the knifer, I only find it to be effective when the enemy is caught off guard.

In a straight up duel, attacking first leaves the defender with ample time to counter swipe or jump out of harms way. I should also note that a lot of knifers tend to bunny hop. I find this to be a waste of stamina and should mainly be used to close distances: not used as the primary means to avoid attacks.

In all, I'm not saying I'm a good knifer nor am I saying that others should get good. I'd just like others to take the time to plan out their attacks instead of constantly rushing in as if they were some invincible ninja.

What are your thoughts?

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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3332	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:09:00 - [1] - Quote a lot of times the opponents I face are too easy. I suspect many are new to the knifing game and that their approaches to knife battles will improve over time, but I can't help but feel a little dissatisfied with the outcomes of the majority of my bouts. I often think to myself, "hell yeah, let's dance all day," but as soon as they come in for the first attack, they are usually dropped with minimal effort on my part. It seems to me that many knifers are too hasty with their methods. They often employ the sprint jump charge attack but often overshoot their destinations or are easily evaded by a simple side-step. Another thing I noticed is that they always want to be the first to attack. While I do agree that attacking first will prove favorable for the knifer, I only find it to be effective when the enemy is caught off guard. In a straight up duel, attacking first leaves the defender with ample time to counter swipe or jump out of harms way. I should also note that a lot of knifers tend to bunny hop. I find this to be a waste of stamina and should mainly be used to close distances: not used as the primary means to avoid attacks. In all, I'm not saying I'm a good knifer nor am I saying that others should get good. I'd just like others to take the time to plan out their attacks instead of constantly rushing in as if they were some invincible ninja. What are your thoughts?
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 930	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:20:00 - [2] - Quote There is very little honor in this game. If I have knives and I see someone else come at me with knives I just shoot them in the face. I'm not trying to have ninja showdowns with other scouts, I just want the kills. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 867	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:23:00 - [3] - Quote I saw a guy with knives the other day so I pulled mine out and stood in front of him, he seemed to be in favor of dueling so we squared off.....moving around the ring and waiting for the right moment to close the gap. Then I got shot in the face by his teammate. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3333	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:26:00 - [4] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: There is very little honor in this game. If I have knives and I see someone else come at me with knives I just shoot them in the face. I'm not trying to have ninja showdowns with other scouts, I just want the kills. Lol... your post reminds me of my first ever knife fight a year or so ago. I was in my profile dampened MinLogi suit and came across a MinScout. The duel started off okay until I got the first knife hit in. The scout back pedaled and switched to his SMG. I told myself I'd never try knifing again after that incident...
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3894	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:30:00 - [5] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I saw a guy with knives the other day so I pulled mine out and stood in front of him, he seemed to be in favor of dueling so we squared off.....moving around the ring and waiting for the right moment to close the gap. Then I got shot in the face by his teammate. I hate when that happens... I even got an email from the Knifer apologizing for his teammate once. I must also admit I am not a very good duelist. Maybe I should stop attacking first. You can always tell a Millford Minja
Vesperz Inner.Hell 103	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:31:00 - [6] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: I saw a guy with knives the other day so I pulled mine out and stood in front of him, he seemed to be in favor of dueling so we squared off.....moving around the ring and waiting for the right moment to close the gap. Then I got shot in the face by his teammate. I know this situation well, only once has his team mates stopped to watch... even then though, some tard has to ruin the fight and run in to spray bullets. So we would find each other again and duel away from the chaos... at sunset... knives gleaming. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Tech De Ra Electronic Sports League 722	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:39:00 - [7] - Quote If i see a knifer running at me i happily duel them with my fists holding guns because guns are cool Prime League champion SGL Sidearm champion Fanfest '14 All star champion
xavier zor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 36	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:41:00 - [8] - Quote Best duel would be melee duel...everyone has the same weapon haha Tactical Assault Rifle's for life
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 54	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:43:00 - [9] - Quote Hey LT SHANKS, thanks for that interesting post =). I like those honorable knife duels a lot. I for myselfe like to take some time for a duel too. Because of that it often happens that other guys interude our 1vs1, killing the redberry or me. But when it comes to a duel i love to sit back a little bit and study the opponents movements. Then i can wait when it's best for me to strike ^^. To wait for the enemy to attack you, with fully charged knifes in ur hands and then just doing a little side step, most times is the easiest way to win a fight. But that obviously isnt working on advanced nova knifers . Sadly it happens a lot to me that other nova knifers arent interested into a nice 1vs1. They often run away, go into cloak or even switch to secondary and start shooting. Most times i have that with players wich some would call "veterans", who are more interested in their kdr than in a fun knife fight. But thats another story . Greetings Theex
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3894	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:45:00 - [10] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Best duel would be melee duel...everyone has the same weapon haha My favorite kill was durring a melee duel. However, it was really just two reds trading shots with each other during a pub match. They did not see me. I often wonder whether the one red had a fraction of a second where he thought he killed the other one right before I knifed him too. It was one of the funniest moments in Dust for me. I wish I had it on video. You can always tell a Millford Minja

Tectonic Fusion 2165	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:49:00 - [11] - Quote This is too true. I can just jump onto then, and they are helpless and swing like crazy. So I just put them out of their misery. (GIF)
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 146	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:50:00 - [12] - Quote Bro, it's awesome to hear that you duel honourably; most of my duels end up with my opponent blasting me with their concealed shotgun. Anyway, I happen to have a very high success rate in straight-up knife duels. Why don't you join the chat channel, 'Nova Knifers United', and we can squad with a couple guys, enter a FW, and have a battle royal??? I did it once before, and it was a hell of a lot of fun. I also would like to invite any other knifers reading this to join the channel (but not the scrubs who use shotguns with knives!!!). Well, I once meleed an R.E.... I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 56	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:56:00 - [13] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: There is very little honor in this game. If I have knives and I see someone else come at me with knives I just shoot them in the face. I'm not trying to have ninja showdowns with other scouts, I just want the kills. Sometimes you really can divide the playerbase into two fractions. Those who just want to have the highest ammount of kills possible and those who just want the most fun they can get... As this isnt CoD i find it rather sad that there are so many players out there who go for the first one . But hey, no judgement. You guys go work ur way up to weekly leaderboards, playing 12 hours straight after wednesday downtime, i go having fun . Was that judgement? Greets Theex
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 59	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:02:00 - [14] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Bro, it's awesome to hear that you duel honourably; most of my duels end up with my opponent blasting me with their concealed shotgun. Anyway, I happen to have a very high success rate in straight-up knife duels. Why don't you join the chat channel, 'Nova Knifers United', and we can squad with a couple guys, enter a FW, and have a battle royal??? I did it once before, and it was a hell of a lot of fun. I also would like to invite any other knifers reading this to join the channel (but not the scrubs who use shotguns with knives!!!). Hey Dreis, didnt we have a couple of fights the other day? headscrathing I'll go check that channel out, see you there. o7 PS: +1 for ur signature "Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3"
Dreis Shadowweaver D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 146	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:04:00 - [15] - Quote Theex 1661 wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Bro, it's awesome to hear that you duel honourably; most of my duels end up with my opponent blasting me with their concealed shotgun. Anyway, I happen to have a very high success rate in straight-up knife duels. Why don't you join the chat channel, 'Nova Knifers United', and we can squad with a couple guys, enter a FW, and have a battle royal??? I did it once before, and it was a hell of a lot of fun. I also would like to invite any other knifers reading this to join the channel (but not the scrubs who use shotguns with knives!!!). Hey Dreis, didnt we have a couple of fights the other day? headscrathing I'll go check that channel out, see you there. o7 PS: +1 for ur signature "Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3" Thx bro! Were you the guy that sprayed me whilst I stood perfectly still, then sent me a message saying 'srry, I'll stick with my knives next time'? lol. There was no next time : ( Well, I once meleed an R.E.... I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Vesperz Inner.Hell 105	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:08:00 - [16] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Bro, it's awesome to hear that you duel honourably; most of my duels end up with my opponent blasting me with their concealed shotgun. Anyway, I happen to have a very high success rate in straight-up knife duels. Why don't you join the chat channel, 'Nova Knifers United', and we can squad with a couple guys, enter a FW, and have a battle royal??? I did it once before, and it was a hell of a lot of fun. I also would like to invite any other knifers reading this to join the channel (but not the scrubs who use shotguns with knives!!!). Lol!! Shotgun and knives, double negative. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 870	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:11:00 - [17] - Quote Yeah thanks to my twitch reaction I almost shot him down as he had just spawned on a link I was about to clear, then I saw he was holding his knives proudly and I said...why not? I'm terrible with knives, and scouting in general so I felt cool trying to do the honorable thing. Some reds just dont understand lol Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 62	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:12:00 - [18] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Thx bro! Were you the guy that sprayed me whilst I stood perfectly still, then sent me a message saying 'srry, I'll stick with my knives next time'? lol. There was no next time : ( Mhh, doesnt sound like me. My outbox says we didnt have contact. I might be wrong that we fought each other. Lets have a fight we see us next time anyways .
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 764	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:15:00 - [19] - Quote Never been in a real knife fight or ever skilled into them, but this one time this Minmatar Heavy charged at me with knives. I laughed so hard I missed my shots and overheated my scrambler, as I backpedaled I quickly switched to my shotgun as it jumped me. Maybe I should try them out for lolz... "Your forefathers fought alongside the Empire, it is your choice to follow them or not." Captain Dante to "Forever".
Spaceman-Rob 515	Posted - 2014.09.08 01:50:00 - [20] - Quote Everytime I come across a nova knife fight, I just stand and watch, if my guy loses I go in for the kill.

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3336	Posted - 2014.09.08 02:50:00 - [21] - Quote Theex 1661 wrote: To wait for the enemy to attack you, with fully charged knifes in ur hands and then just doing a little side step, most times is the easiest way to win a fight. But that obviously isnt working on advanced nova knifers . The best knifers I had come across in duels were those who waited for me to make a move. They'd attack when I would attack. They would always keep their distance and have me in focus. They were quick to retreat and reposition after failing to take me out. These players are the most fun to duel with and in my opinion, are also the most skilled. They do not move around or attack at thin air excessively. They are patient and precise, but most notably, they are willing to gamble everything on a two-sided jumping charge swipe exchange and hope things play out in their favor. Although they are reserved, they are not hesitant to throw themselves at an enemy when they feel there is an opportune moment to attack.
xavier zor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2014.09.08 02:59:00 - [22] - Quote Melee does a lot of damage if you put kinetic catalyzers on it....I melee'd somebody 4 or 5 times today, as he was on low health and stuck in an objective cavity. He didn't shoot until the 4'th melee because he probably thought 'What the actual **** stupid red?' It glitches a lot of the time though. Tactical Assault Rifle's for life
Aria Gomes The New Age Outlaws 462	Posted - 2014.09.08 03:28:00 - [23] - Quote I haven't had a knife duel in awhile. My last one wasn't really a duel because the dude switched to SG as he jumped in the air. He shot but missed and I swipe the side of his face. Then he tried two more times with the same result. He gave up after that and decided to just come out with a rifle and shoot me after that. I then sent a msg saying Nova Knives > Shotgun always.
Onesimus Tarsus is-a-Corporation 2587	Posted - 2014.09.08 03:46:00 - [24] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: a lot of times the opponents I face are too easy. I suspect many are new to the knifing game and that their approaches to knife battles will improve over time, but I can't help but feel a little dissatisfied with the outcomes of the majority of my bouts. I often think to myself, "hell yeah, let's dance all day," but as soon as they come in for the first attack, they are usually dropped with minimal effort on my part. It seems to me that many knifers are too hasty with their methods. They often employ the sprint jump charge attack but often overshoot their destinations or are easily evaded by a simple side-step. Another thing I noticed is that they always want to be the first to attack. While I do agree that attacking first will prove favorable for the knifer, I only find it to be effective when the enemy is caught off guard. In a straight up duel, attacking first leaves the defender with ample time to counter swipe or jump out of harms way. I should also note that a lot of knifers tend to bunny hop. I find this to be a waste of stamina and should mainly be used to close distances: not used as the primary means to avoid attacks. In all, I'm not saying I'm a good knifer nor am I saying that others should get good. I'd just like others to take the time to plan out their attacks instead of constantly rushing in as if they were some invincible ninja. What are your thoughts? "Not a good knifer" after three paragraphs of in depth analysis on knifing... Maybe some chocolate and a romance novel would cheer you up. K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the *whole* game. That's a promise.
maluble Espi0nage 62	Posted - 2014.09.09 02:11:00 - [25] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Everytime I come across a nova knife fight, I just stand and watch, if my guy loses I go in for the kill. Very gracious of you.


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