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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:37:00 -
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Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1456
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:38:00 -
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Remoting uplinks (and spawn points around letters/CRUs) is a very cheap tactic. It infuriates me too, and I hope they change it. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
816
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:44:00 -
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Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3449
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:47:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it.
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
817
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:51:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it.
A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3451
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:56:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Damn I meant infantry wise not towards vehicles.. I really suck at this QQ
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
307
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Posted - 2014.09.04 19:59:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic.
It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. |
Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
293
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:04:00 -
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Is it possible to make enemy equipment visible (on the map) if it is in (very) close proximity to friendly uplinks? This would allow those spawning to see if an uplink is REd (if they pay attention) without giving uplinks a passive scanning function that could be easily exploited as a mobile EWAR network. This doesn't eliminate the ability to trap spawns, it would just give the person spawning in a fighting chance and/or require those using REs to be a bit more creative (trapping a narrow hall that the spawn point leads to, etc.) Just a suggestion. I hate getting REd when I spawn, but I accept it as a consequence of being over run/inadequately defending your own spawns.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3451
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:16:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. I went 29/6 proto assault he went 25/19 proto scout Like idk how you could do so bad with such cheap tactics
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Coleman Gray
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1180
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:19:00 -
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I'm sure people was arguing that spawn camping is a "tactic"
If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
778
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:22:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. its legitimate douche-baggery from scouts.. they will place an RE on an uplink wait till some one appears and BOOM +5 and +50..
sad to say but its legitimate gameplay even if i hate it
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1553
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:23:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I look at your corp name and laugh at you getting all teary eyed dying to cheap tactics, truth is DONT SPAWN IN A HOT AREA PERIOD!
thats stupidly killing you and you got what you deserved, spawn at home base with your own uplink to put in a safe area instead of coming here like a friggen baby because YOU TOO LAZY TO -šTART AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MAP!
Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3451
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:28:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I look at your corp name and laugh at you getting all teary eyed dying to cheap tactics, truth is DONT SPAWN IN A HOT AREA PERIOD! thats stupidly killing you and you got what you deserved, spawn at home base with your own uplink to put in a safe area instead of coming here like a friggen baby because YOU TOO LAZY TO -šTART AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MAP! So we shouldn't use uplinks cuz people like you want to be cheap.. Okay, I'm to lazy? Sorry some of us try to win but obviously you've never tried to win so your point is invalid. Go away the adults are talking here.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
590
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:34:00 -
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What I don't understand are the respawn damage rules, can anyone clarify on that? Sometimes when I spawn or someone else spawns we take no damage for several seconds, other times my screen hasn't even stopped being black before I'm dead... especially in the case of REs. |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
276
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:39:00 -
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Some red put a link in a small, outer perimeter corner. Just enough space for a dropship to put it's nose in & park. So many spawn/roadkills while not moving. I couldn't stop laughing!
Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1553
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:42:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:OZAROW wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I look at your corp name and laugh at you getting all teary eyed dying to cheap tactics, truth is DONT SPAWN IN A HOT AREA PERIOD! thats stupidly killing you and you got what you deserved, spawn at home base with your own uplink to put in a safe area instead of coming here like a friggen baby because YOU TOO LAZY TO -šTART AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MAP! So we shouldn't use uplinks cuz people like you want to be cheap.. Okay, I'm to lazy? Sorry some of us try to win but obviously you've never tried to win so your point is invalid. Go away the adults are talking here. Listen buttercup I totally have been putting remotes on uplinks since beta and if I kill a guy and theres a uplink close by I put a remote on it instantly, if the guy is stupid and stubborn he dies again, if hes smart and know that uplink has been blown than he comes in somewhere else.
Its simple logic really and like the old saying goes bro:
All is fair in love and war!
Man up and spawn far from the fight and realize your team got pushed back
Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2093
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:47:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS.
Likes are my candy and in these forums every day is Halloween. XD
Sweets for everyone!
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
779
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:48:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Remoting uplinks (and spawn points around letters/CRUs) is a very cheap tactic. It infuriates me too, and I hope they fix it. there is nothing broken so no fix needed but i do agree its an epic **** move
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
591
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:49:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS.
Because, scouts bitched about shared scans. So they took out the ability to share information through our dropsuits which have less software interfacing and technology then a god damn iphone. You can if you are in a squad but what does that mean exactly? You can only share your iphone apps with people in your family/friends circle?
Honestly since CCP decided that dampening wins the EWAR why not bring back shared team scans? |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
779
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:50:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. I went 29/6 proto assault he went 25/19 proto scout Like idk how you could do so bad with such cheap tactics musta been a newbie scout who dosnt brick tank and use a CR
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3451
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Posted - 2014.09.04 20:57:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. I went 29/6 proto assault he went 25/19 proto scout Like idk how you could do so bad with such cheap tactics musta been a newbie scout who dosnt brick tank and use a CR I wouldn't know I only saw him get RE kills in the kill feed. Yes it's a tatic but I still think there should be a way around it I can't say no RE's on scouts cuz lots of them use scouts/RE for tanks but at the same time the only ones abusing this are scouts(not all, a few)
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
429
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:04:00 -
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You mean he didn't camp the uplink... He just blew it up as you spawned. He has brought much shame to his family.
Lonewolf till I die
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
3001
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:06:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic.
Then don't spam uplinks specially in very easy places. Or just don't spam uplinks. But if you really want to avoid these the best advice is DONT SPAM UPLINKS.
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:06:00 -
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Emergent gameplay needs nerfing? Its rather creative and even I get a good laugh whenever I foolishly melee it. Just learn your lesson
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
405
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:08:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too..
How do you target a single individual on a 32 team dynamic battlefield 12 times? You must be either clairvoyant or awesome...or exaggerating.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
591
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:12:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. How do you target a single individual on a 32 man dynamic battlefield 12 times? You must be either clairvoyant or awesome...or exaggerating.
It tends to happen a lot these days in pubs since the level of blueberry syndrome has quadrupled since FF. There is usually only 6 people actually fighting on each side with the rest racing to see who makes the best cannon fodder. |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
312
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:13:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. It's about as cheap as it gets. People with broken gun game, when it happens to me I usually look for the idiot in a rediculous protofit to troll them over and over. Last time I did that to a dude putting re's on uplinks he sent me to "git gud". He got me once, I got him 12 times. He left battle too.. How do you target a single individual on a 32 man dynamic battlefield 12 times? You must be either clairvoyant or awesome...or exaggerating.
Well no good sir. I followed him around camping his fresh link that he just put down (I killed him as soon as he put it down), he kept spawning and they had no links after he died on his own a couple of times. So he moved to the furthest CRU and so did I. I was lucky I guess |
Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3278
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:18:00 -
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That only happened once to me...
Ever. |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:22:00 -
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Wow, so the consensus is that its a cheat? HTFU softies
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
110
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:27:00 -
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Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed |
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Vesperz
Inner.Hell
99
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:32:00 -
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Bahaha, I kept doing this on the research lab supply depot, they had the whole area cluttered with uplinks and hives, spawning in with heavies, logis... bodies flying everywhere. ... and they still kept coming, there was a home spawn but nope. Went 29/5, got hate mail afterwards getting called a ***** and a scrub. Doesn't bother me, I thrive on enemy rage. All is fair, when it happens to me I don't get ticked, I laugh it off. :)
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Michael Arck
5390
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:35:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed
Lol the hate is strong with this one
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
593
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:35:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Bahaha, I kept doing this on the research lab supply depot, they had the whole area cluttered with uplinks and hives, spawning in with heavies, logis... bodies flying everywhere. ... and they still kept coming, there was a home spawn but nope. Went 29/5, got hate mail afterwards getting called a ***** and a scrub. Doesn't bother me, I thrive on enemy rage. All is fair, when it happens to me I don't get ticked, I laugh it off. :)
That's why I bring a mass driver to those corridor wars you can force suicide on a lot of RE scouts that way or in the least clear them out if your team doesn't keep running into the REs which they probably will.
This game suffers a lot from "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." |
Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
405
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:36:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed
Cussing strangers on a vidya game forum?
Go get laid.
Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
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Vesperz
Inner.Hell
99
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:40:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:That's why I bring a mass driver to those corridor wars you can force suicide on a lot of RE scouts that way or in the least clear them out if your team doesn't keep running into the REs which they probably will.
This game suffers a lot from "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Good man! That works well, smart players have killed me that way soon as they figure out what's going on.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
593
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Posted - 2014.09.04 21:41:00 -
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What I hate more than anything is the douchey spawns on null cannons that sometimes happen. Like that one facility with the dropship pads and catwalks conjoined to a roof. Just had a game earlier where I kept spawning on the cat walk when the enemy had roof top overwatch. Had a 33% chance of getting the cat walk spawn and got it 3 times in a row FML! |
Matticus Monk
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
2496
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:04:00 -
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This has only happend to me once or twice ever. Maybe just once.
I still zoom in on the map prior to spawning and make sure there are no black dots running around where I'm coming in. Not many scouts use EWAR mods these days so some nozzle standing within 30m is usually a bad sign for that spawn in.
Nothing better than a good RE kill, but better to just kill the link than risk some super tank heavy spawning in and not dying of your RE, then a bunch of his buddies following him through.
Too many people going for kills and not thinking about things to win the match.
Jezus, 19 deaths would be horrible for a pub game even running a BPO scout suit and a militia pistol.... I'd feel sorry for that guy. I don't even think I could get mad at him I'd feel so bad for him.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
Embracing the death, at Llast.
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
110
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:06:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed Cussing strangers on a vidya game forum? Go get laid. Wow I got served...
Bottom line is I have been around long enough to know imbalance when I see it. When there is a rush to a specific suit, weapon etc it becomes obvious. The nerf bats coming, Just be happy its not happening for delta.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
596
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:23:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:This has only happend to me once or twice ever. Maybe just once.
I still zoom in on the map prior to spawning and make sure there are no black dots running around where I'm coming in. Not many scouts use EWAR mods these days so some nozzle standing within 30m is usually a bad sign for that spawn in.
Nothing better than a good RE kill, but better to just kill the link than risk some super tank heavy spawning in and not dying of your RE, then a bunch of his buddies following him through.
Too many people going for kills and not thinking about things to win the match.
Jezus, 19 deaths would be horrible for a pub game even running a BPO scout suit and a militia pistol.... I'd feel sorry for that guy. I don't even think I could get mad at him I'd feel so bad for him.
Serious question how does one zoom in on the map when spawning in on a standard controller? I also watch for tanks before spawning in as they are obvious but I honestly had no idea you could zoom in on the map to see infantry... |
David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
69
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:50:00 -
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Spawn camping is part of the game though. Sucks to be you. Since this is what is told to me, then **** you and I hope one of the remote mines were mine.
I have no qualms about spawn camping anymore, you all do it, so turn about is fair play. |
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
3453
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Posted - 2014.09.04 22:59:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Spawn camping is part of the game though. Sucks to be you. Since this is what is told to me, then **** you and I hope one of the remote mines were mine.
I have no qualms about spawn camping anymore, you all do it, so turn about is fair play. Don't worry everything is fair game apparently then again I'd like to see you get an RE kill you might have to leave your redline first though.
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Gemini Cuspid
129
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Posted - 2014.09.04 23:36:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic.
This is one of the times I do blame a tactic used in MAG that somehow evolved into pretty similar usage in Dust. Other FPS games seem to keep it on the guesswork by revolving spawnpoints like ambush so you can't exactly redline an opponent which should be utilized really in the game.
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries
690
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:10:00 -
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Just as bad as a guy I encountered last week who wouldn't hack the objective, even though it was completely neutral (still yellow, not red or blue). He'd just hide around a corner of a building cloaked and kill whoever came to hack it, but never hacked it himself.
Why am I still here yet?
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Matticus Monk
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
2498
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:45:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Serious question how does one zoom in on the map when spawning in on a standard controller? I also watch for tanks before spawning in as they are obvious but I honestly had no idea you could zoom in on the map to see infantry...
Oh man, I do it by instinct so I'm not totally sure.... I think it's either L2/R2 for zoom in/out, or L1/R1 when looking at the overhead map.
Learned this trick when I got the spinning circle while trying to select my spawn point so I just spent 10 minutes looking at the overhead map and did this to give my team some pretty decent recon.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
Embracing the death, at Llast.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2253
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:04:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS. Because, scouts bitched about shared scans. So they took out the ability to share information through our dropsuits which have less software interfacing and technology then a god damn iphone. You can if you are in a squad but what does that mean exactly? You can only share your iphone apps with people in your family/friends circle? Honestly since CCP decided that dampening wins the EWAR why not bring back shared team scans? You have shared scans....now you want TEAM scans?!
Please tell me thats a joke. Its such a crutch its not even funny.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
396
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:04:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:I'm sure people was arguing that spawn camping is a "tactic"
It is a tactic... A very lame one... One that can't happen if your team keeps the uplinks safe and doesn't dump them in the middle of the enemy team. Also a great way to teach people a lesson when they glitch uplinks under the environment... Wouldn't be able to explode your team if the uplink would die, lol.
Fact is if you want a safe spawn, go in the redzone or make sure your team is around the uplink. |
Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4105
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Posted - 2014.09.05 03:51:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic.
One of my main things is that people show up on radar and with a chevron in dust before the person can actually move once spawned in...what purpose does spawning in invincible for a moment serve if they can pop an RE and kill you still?
If I had it my way you would not show up on radar or have a chevron until can react. I hate dying to remotes in this manner as it feels like I had no way to counter it, I just die.
Dying should be enjoyable in that you feel you can counter things. This is one of those anomalies IMO.
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
278
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Posted - 2014.09.05 04:28:00 -
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lol i'm ashamed i do all the time
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
222
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Posted - 2014.09.05 06:49:00 -
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I hate RE spawn camping too :( makes me sad.
But taking it out is catering wayyy to much. This is New Eden last I checked. We all just have to put our uplinks in better spots... |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
600
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:18:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Please tell me thats a joke. Its such a crutch its not even funny.
We used to have team scans. I don't see how it's a joke, why would your team withold intel? Scouts already win the EWar so it's not like it will effect them. |
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BigStuarty
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
34
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:34:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I have a suggestion regarding the trolling of uplinks, its especially cheap and nasty the RE instance. The Uplink is a nanite based equipment , make these intelligent , give them a 20m range, 360 scan, any equipment placed the nanites consume (destroy) it and any1 camping in the range after say 3_4 seconds will see their health deplete rapidly, so its should lead to destroy the uplink and move on |
OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1560
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:43:00 -
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This is how stupid people in this game are:
Once I was on the bridge map with the supply depo at echo and the little building beside it.
I hack the crew, hack the point, hack the depo, switch fits scan the area and notice a link in the building, switch back and carefully proceeded into the building, just as im about to stab the link a guy comes in so I kill him, snnikit snikkit, so I toss a remote on the uplink; only it doesn't land on link it lsnds on the wall at head height, I think hhmmmmmmmmmmmm so I wait........
Dude spawns in BOOOM uplink lives on , hhmmmmmm , so I do it again , an again , I run outside get more remotes at the depo, I cime back an repeat.
I mean really; the same people died more than once to that , like as if I was too lazy not to go to the deposit and get more.
They call it a TRAP for a reason.
You can nerf a trap because a trap requires YOU to participate in your own demise thats why its a TRAP!
Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
1560
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Posted - 2014.09.05 14:45:00 -
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BigStuarty wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I have a suggestion regarding the trolling of uplinks, its especially cheap and nasty the RE instance. The Uplink is a nanite based equipment , make these intelligent , give them a 20m range, 360 scan, any equipment placed the nanites consume (destroy) it and any1 camping in the range after say 3_4 seconds will see their health deplete rapidly, so its should lead to destroy the uplink and move on Better yethow bout stupid people stop playing the game and complaining because their stupidity killed them to the same thing more than once, deal?
Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
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Vesperz
Inner.Hell
102
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:02:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:This is how stupid people in this game are:
Once I was on the bridge map with the supply depo at echo and the little building beside it.
I hack the crew, hack the point, hack the depo, switch fits scan the area and notice a link in the building, switch back and carefully proceeded into the building, just as im about to stab the link a guy comes in so I kill him, snnikit snikkit, so I toss a remote on the uplink; only it doesn't land on link it lsnds on the wall at head height, I think hhmmmmmmmmmmmm so I wait........
Dude spawns in BOOOM uplink lives on , hhmmmmmm , so I do it again , an again , I run outside get more remotes at the depo, I cime back an repeat.
I mean really; the same people died more than once to that , like as if I was too lazy not to go to the deposit and get more.
They call it a TRAP for a reason.
You can nerf a trap because a trap requires YOU to participate in your own demise thats why its a TRAP! A flaylock salute to this!
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
6338
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Posted - 2014.09.05 22:23:00 -
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You realize you can spawn camp with any weapon yes, hell I do it with mass drivers and nova knives.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3454
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Posted - 2014.09.05 22:33:00 -
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I'm surprised your not the one doing it, most of your corp does.
Do you camp uplinks? Do you camp CRU's? Do you dip into the enemy redline to kill them their?
If your uplinks are in an easy to reach area, it's kinda your team's fault. Futhermore RE spawn camping destroys the uplink meaning you only get 1 kill, not the whole team as they attempt to spawn in on the only active uplink outside of the redline.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1258
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Posted - 2014.09.05 23:36:00 -
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The title is indeed misleading.
It refers to games default spawns being spawn camped, instead of link camping.
The first is bad gameplay mechanic whenever possible, the second is a valid tactic.
Using links brings player enabled advantages, as well as player made risks. Use links at own risk.
Further point to counter link camping QQ is that REs on a link are one shot kill method. REs destroy the link, duh. You can't really camp link with REs. Try your heavy suits with HMGs.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1258
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Posted - 2014.09.05 23:47:00 -
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Now what is bad:
Setting REs on games default spawn locations where you know people will spawn (in ambush 'smart' spawn). It is abysmally bad mechanic that game has only such a limited amount of spawn places. Not enough variation.
I'd say there's about 50 different 1m x 1m spawn boxes in a map - and they CAN be farmed. Make that a, say, one thousand and then it's way more difficult to predict where spawns will be.
Some another terrible thing about spawning are: - While player is invisible and invincible, enemy players aiming at that 1m x 1m box get red sights. - To make it even worse, invulnerability does NOT apply to some weapons: REs, small rails, large missiles, large blasters (maybe their small/large counterparts) and maybe grenades.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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BigStuarty
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
35
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:39:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:The title is indeed misleading.
It refers to games default spawns being spawn camped, instead of link camping.
The first is bad gameplay mechanic whenever possible, the second is a valid tactic.
Using links brings player enabled advantages, as well as player made risks. Use links at own risk.
Further point to counter link camping QQ is that REs on a link are one shot kill method. REs destroy the link, duh. You can't really camp link with REs. Try your heavy suits with HMGs.
In many instances an RE doesn't destroy a link... A FACT YOU KNOW perfectly well, so be a trooper kill the link and move on ... |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4906
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:44:00 -
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The RE atop your Uplink only works once.
What of a Burst HMG, HAV or ADS camping your Uplink?
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
2028
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:48:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS. Because, scouts bitched about shared scans. So they took out the ability to share information through our dropsuits which have less software interfacing and technology then a god damn iphone. You can if you are in a squad but what does that mean exactly? You can only share your iphone apps with people in your family/friends circle? Honestly since CCP decided that dampening wins the EWAR why not bring back shared team scans?
Just give uplinks a scan capability.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1855
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:50:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I agree, I think all uplinks should have a ten metre, 360 degree, 15 precision active scanner built in, so you can see any nearby remotes and camping enemies. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1855
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Posted - 2014.09.16 12:51:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:The RE atop your Uplink only works once.
What of a Burst HMG, HAV or ADS camping your Uplink? HAV or ADS usually visible from the minimap.
Burst HMG would be solved by giving the uplink a 10 metre scan. |
BigStuarty
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:00:00 -
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BigStuarty wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I have a suggestion regarding the trolling of uplinks, its especially cheap and nasty the RE instance. The Uplink is a nanite based equipment , make these intelligent , give them a 20m range, 360 scan, any equipment placed the nanites consume (destroy) it and any1 camping in the range after say 3_4 seconds will see their health deplete rapidly, so its should lead to destroy the uplink and move on
too outrageous? |
Thurak1
Psygod9
1005
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:10:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:What I don't understand are the respawn damage rules, can anyone clarify on that? Sometimes when I spawn or someone else spawns we take no damage for several seconds, other times my screen hasn't even stopped being black before I'm dead... especially in the case of REs.
Good point. I know i have experienced the same. I also know i have done the same to people. I was near an uplink with my burst hmg inside an installation and someone appeared from the uplink. I let loose on them and nothing. No damage at all they had enough time to actually run away from me. Yet there have been times when spawning in where i have been melee'ed to death.
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Vapor Forseti
Nyain Chan General Tso's Alliance
1417
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Posted - 2014.09.16 13:30:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed I will track you down, I will find you, and I will scout your ass up.
When you are in a pinch, just say "Help me, Dark Adonis" and I will come to you, literally.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
4260
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Posted - 2014.09.16 14:33:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. This is a self-limiting problem as the RE will also kill the Uplink you spawned on, unlike just shooting your immediately, which can be done over and over on the same Uplink.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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