DUST Search - RE's need nerfed

TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:

Rusty Shallows wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

Heimdallr69 wrote:

Crimson ShieId wrote:

Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged.

Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it.

A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Blink

Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS.

Because, scouts bitched about shared scans. So they took out the ability to share information through our dropsuits which have less software interfacing and technology then a god damn iphone. You can if you are in a squad but what does that mean exactly? You can only share your iphone apps with people in your family/friends circle?

Honestly since CCP decided that dampening wins the EWAR why not bring back shared team scans?

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Vesperz Inner.Hell 99	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:32:00 - [31] - Quote Bahaha, I kept doing this on the research lab supply depot, they had the whole area cluttered with uplinks and hives, spawning in with heavies, logis... bodies flying everywhere. ... and they still kept coming, there was a home spawn but nope. Went 29/5, got hate mail afterwards getting called a ***** and a scrub. Doesn't bother me, I thrive on enemy rage. All is fair, when it happens to me I don't get ticked, I laugh it off. :) Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Michael Arck 5390	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:35:00 - [32] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed Lol the hate is strong with this one Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 593	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:35:00 - [33] - Quote Vesperz wrote: Bahaha, I kept doing this on the research lab supply depot, they had the whole area cluttered with uplinks and hives, spawning in with heavies, logis... bodies flying everywhere. ... and they still kept coming, there was a home spawn but nope. Went 29/5, got hate mail afterwards getting called a ***** and a scrub. Doesn't bother me, I thrive on enemy rage. All is fair, when it happens to me I don't get ticked, I laugh it off. :) That's why I bring a mass driver to those corridor wars you can force suicide on a lot of RE scouts that way or in the least clear them out if your team doesn't keep running into the REs which they probably will. This game suffers a lot from "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 405	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:36:00 - [34] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed Cussing strangers on a vidya game forum? Go get laid. Wisdom is what you gain after you need it.
Vesperz Inner.Hell 99	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:40:00 - [35] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: That's why I bring a mass driver to those corridor wars you can force suicide on a lot of RE scouts that way or in the least clear them out if your team doesn't keep running into the REs which they probably will. This game suffers a lot from "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." Good man! That works well, smart players have killed me that way soon as they figure out what's going on. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 593	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:41:00 - [36] - Quote What I hate more than anything is the douchey spawns on null cannons that sometimes happen. Like that one facility with the dropship pads and catwalks conjoined to a roof. Just had a game earlier where I kept spawning on the cat walk when the enemy had roof top overwatch. Had a 33% chance of getting the cat walk spawn and got it 3 times in a row FML!
Matticus Monk Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2496	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:04:00 - [37] - Quote This has only happend to me once or twice ever. Maybe just once. I still zoom in on the map prior to spawning and make sure there are no black dots running around where I'm coming in. Not many scouts use EWAR mods these days so some nozzle standing within 30m is usually a bad sign for that spawn in. Nothing better than a good RE kill, but better to just kill the link than risk some super tank heavy spawning in and not dying of your RE, then a bunch of his buddies following him through. Too many people going for kills and not thinking about things to win the match. Jezus, 19 deaths would be horrible for a pub game even running a BPO scout suit and a militia pistol.... I'd feel sorry for that guy. I don't even think I could get mad at him I'd feel so bad for him. Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 110	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:06:00 - [38] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Scouts are lame. If you are a scout you are lame. Invisibility and wallhacks. Cant wait till you bitches get nerfed Cussing strangers on a vidya game forum? Go get laid. Wow I got served... Bottom line is I have been around long enough to know imbalance when I see it. When there is a rush to a specific suit, weapon etc it becomes obvious. The nerf bats coming, Just be happy its not happening for delta.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 596	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:23:00 - [39] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: This has only happend to me once or twice ever. Maybe just once. I still zoom in on the map prior to spawning and make sure there are no black dots running around where I'm coming in. Not many scouts use EWAR mods these days so some nozzle standing within 30m is usually a bad sign for that spawn in. Nothing better than a good RE kill, but better to just kill the link than risk some super tank heavy spawning in and not dying of your RE, then a bunch of his buddies following him through. Too many people going for kills and not thinking about things to win the match. Jezus, 19 deaths would be horrible for a pub game even running a BPO scout suit and a militia pistol.... I'd feel sorry for that guy. I don't even think I could get mad at him I'd feel so bad for him. Serious question how does one zoom in on the map when spawning in on a standard controller? I also watch for tanks before spawning in as they are obvious but I honestly had no idea you could zoom in on the map to see infantry...
David Mustane D3M3NT3D M1NDZ 69	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:50:00 - [40] - Quote Spawn camping is part of the game though. Sucks to be you. Since this is what is told to me, then **** you and I hope one of the remote mines were mine. I have no qualms about spawn camping anymore, you all do it, so turn about is fair play.

Heimdallr69 Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 3453	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:59:00 - [41] - Quote David Mustane wrote: Spawn camping is part of the game though. Sucks to be you. Since this is what is told to me, then **** you and I hope one of the remote mines were mine. I have no qualms about spawn camping anymore, you all do it, so turn about is fair play. Don't worry everything is fair game apparently then again I'd like to see you get an RE kill you might have to leave your redline first though. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Gemini Cuspid 129	Posted - 2014.09.04 23:36:00 - [42] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. This is one of the times I do blame a tactic used in MAG that somehow evolved into pretty similar usage in Dust. Other FPS games seem to keep it on the guesswork by revolving spawnpoints like ambush so you can't exactly redline an opponent which should be utilized really in the game.
LEHON Xeon Ahrendee Mercenaries 690	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:10:00 - [43] - Quote Just as bad as a guy I encountered last week who wouldn't hack the objective, even though it was completely neutral (still yellow, not red or blue). He'd just hide around a corner of a building cloaked and kill whoever came to hack it, but never hacked it himself. Why am I still here yet?
Matticus Monk Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 2498	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:45:00 - [44] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Serious question how does one zoom in on the map when spawning in on a standard controller? I also watch for tanks before spawning in as they are obvious but I honestly had no idea you could zoom in on the map to see infantry... Oh man, I do it by instinct so I'm not totally sure.... I think it's either L2/R2 for zoom in/out, or L1/R1 when looking at the overhead map. Learned this trick when I got the spinning circle while trying to select my spawn point so I just spent 10 minutes looking at the overhead map and did this to give my team some pretty decent recon. Double posting like a Kaiser. Embracing the death, at Llast.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2253	Posted - 2014.09.05 01:04:00 - [45] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Crimson ShieId wrote: Title is unhelpful. Nerfing RE's won't change this, unless you nerfed them into flaylock status and made it so they can't kill any suit that's not heavily damaged. Hmm I'll change title when I figure out how lol.. I don't want them nerfed like that but make it so you can't spawn camp with them. So if they have to be nerfed into oblivion for that then so be it. A camera on spawn points would be nice, like in Battlefield, or even a motion tracker added to spawn points so that you could see enemies camping them. Please don't start the nerf RE's threads though. They're my only defense against tanks. :( Spawn camping is the enemy here, kick that in the balls. Exactly. It baffles me why they got rid of the overview map showing reds next to the CRU. Any death that costs a player money and stats before,they get to do anything in game is going to feel cheap. That should be an axiom for any FPS. Because, scouts bitched about shared scans. So they took out the ability to share information through our dropsuits which have less software interfacing and technology then a god damn iphone. You can if you are in a squad but what does that mean exactly? You can only share your iphone apps with people in your family/friends circle? Honestly since CCP decided that dampening wins the EWAR why not bring back shared team scans? You have shared scans....now you want TEAM scans?! Please tell me thats a joke. Its such a crutch its not even funny. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 396	Posted - 2014.09.05 03:04:00 - [46] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: I'm sure people was arguing that spawn camping is a "tactic" It is a tactic... A very lame one... One that can't happen if your team keeps the uplinks safe and doesn't dump them in the middle of the enemy team. Also a great way to teach people a lesson when they glitch uplinks under the environment... Wouldn't be able to explode your team if the uplink would die, lol. Fact is if you want a safe spawn, go in the redzone or make sure your team is around the uplink.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4105	Posted - 2014.09.05 03:51:00 - [47] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. One of my main things is that people show up on radar and with a chevron in dust before the person can actually move once spawned in...what purpose does spawning in invincible for a moment serve if they can pop an RE and kill you still? If I had it my way you would not show up on radar or have a chevron until can react. I hate dying to remotes in this manner as it feels like I had no way to counter it, I just die. Dying should be enjoyable in that you feel you can counter things. This is one of those anomalies IMO. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 278	Posted - 2014.09.05 04:28:00 - [48] - Quote lol i'm ashamed i do all the time "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 222	Posted - 2014.09.05 06:49:00 - [49] - Quote I hate RE spawn camping too :( makes me sad. But taking it out is catering wayyy to much. This is New Eden last I checked. We all just have to put our uplinks in better spots...
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 600	Posted - 2014.09.05 12:18:00 - [50] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Please tell me thats a joke. Its such a crutch its not even funny. We used to have team scans. I don't see how it's a joke, why would your team withold intel? Scouts already win the EWar so it's not like it will effect them.

BigStuarty New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 34	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:34:00 - [51] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I have a suggestion regarding the trolling of uplinks, its especially cheap and nasty the RE instance. The Uplink is a nanite based equipment , make these intelligent , give them a 20m range, 360 scan, any equipment placed the nanites consume (destroy) it and any1 camping in the range after say 3_4 seconds will see their health deplete rapidly, so its should lead to destroy the uplink and move on
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1560	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:43:00 - [52] - Quote This is how stupid people in this game are: Once I was on the bridge map with the supply depo at echo and the little building beside it. I hack the crew, hack the point, hack the depo, switch fits scan the area and notice a link in the building, switch back and carefully proceeded into the building, just as im about to stab the link a guy comes in so I kill him, snnikit snikkit, so I toss a remote on the uplink; only it doesn't land on link it lsnds on the wall at head height, I think hhmmmmmmmmmmmm so I wait........ Dude spawns in BOOOM uplink lives on , hhmmmmmm , so I do it again , an again , I run outside get more remotes at the depo, I cime back an repeat. I mean really; the same people died more than once to that , like as if I was too lazy not to go to the deposit and get more. They call it a TRAP for a reason. You can nerf a trap because a trap requires YOU to participate in your own demise thats why its a TRAP! Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1560	Posted - 2014.09.05 14:45:00 - [53] - Quote BigStuarty wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Here I am 3 different times in one match where I spawn on an uplink in Dom just to be killed by an RE before my screen fully appears.. Dafuq is this CCP if you don't want us using uplinks just say so..pathetic. I have a suggestion regarding the trolling of uplinks, its especially cheap and nasty the RE instance. The Uplink is a nanite based equipment , make these intelligent , give them a 20m range, 360 scan, any equipment placed the nanites consume (destroy) it and any1 camping in the range after say 3_4 seconds will see their health deplete rapidly, so its should lead to destroy the uplink and move on Better yethow bout stupid people stop playing the game and complaining because their stupidity killed them to the same thing more than once, deal? Yes, you just got rocked by a guy with a BOLT PISTOL and a pair of knives! !
Vesperz Inner.Hell 102	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:02:00 - [54] - Quote OZAROW wrote: This is how stupid people in this game are: Once I was on the bridge map with the supply depo at echo and the little building beside it. I hack the crew, hack the point, hack the depo, switch fits scan the area and notice a link in the building, switch back and carefully proceeded into the building, just as im about to stab the link a guy comes in so I kill him, snnikit snikkit, so I toss a remote on the uplink; only it doesn't land on link it lsnds on the wall at head height, I think hhmmmmmmmmmmmm so I wait........ Dude spawns in BOOOM uplink lives on , hhmmmmmm , so I do it again , an again , I run outside get more remotes at the depo, I cime back an repeat. I mean really; the same people died more than once to that , like as if I was too lazy not to go to the deposit and get more. They call it a TRAP for a reason. You can nerf a trap because a trap requires YOU to participate in your own demise thats why its a TRAP! A flaylock salute to this! Live by honor, kill by stealth.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 6338	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:23:00 - [55] - Quote You realize you can spawn camp with any weapon yes, hell I do it with mass drivers and nova knives. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3454	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:33:00 - [56] - Quote I'm surprised your not the one doing it, most of your corp does. Do you camp uplinks? Do you camp CRU's? Do you dip into the enemy redline to kill them their? If your uplinks are in an easy to reach area, it's kinda your team's fault. Futhermore RE spawn camping destroys the uplink meaning you only get 1 kill, not the whole team as they attempt to spawn in on the only active uplink outside of the redline. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1258	Posted - 2014.09.05 23:36:00 - [57] - Quote The title is indeed misleading. It refers to games default spawns being spawn camped, instead of link camping. The first is bad gameplay mechanic whenever possible, the second is a valid tactic. Using links brings player enabled advantages, as well as player made risks. Use links at own risk. Further point to counter link camping QQ is that REs on a link are one shot kill method. REs destroy the link, duh. You can't really camp link with REs. Try your heavy suits with HMGs. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1258	Posted - 2014.09.05 23:47:00 - [58] - Quote Now what is bad: Setting REs on games default spawn locations where you know people will spawn (in ambush 'smart' spawn). It is abysmally bad mechanic that game has only such a limited amount of spawn places. Not enough variation. I'd say there's about 50 different 1m x 1m spawn boxes in a map - and they CAN be farmed. Make that a, say, one thousand and then it's way more difficult to predict where spawns will be. Some another terrible thing about spawning are: - While player is invisible and invincible, enemy players aiming at that 1m x 1m box get red sights. - To make it even worse, invulnerability does NOT apply to some weapons: REs, small rails, large missiles, large blasters (maybe their small/large counterparts) and maybe grenades. People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
BigStuarty New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance 35	Posted - 2014.09.16 12:39:00 - [59] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: The title is indeed misleading. It refers to games default spawns being spawn camped, instead of link camping. The first is bad gameplay mechanic whenever possible, the second is a valid tactic. Using links brings player enabled advantages, as well as player made risks. Use links at own risk. Further point to counter link camping QQ is that REs on a link are one shot kill method. REs destroy the link, duh. You can't really camp link with REs. Try your heavy suits with HMGs. In many instances an RE doesn't destroy a link... A FACT YOU KNOW perfectly well, so be a trooper kill the link and move on ...
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 4906	Posted - 2014.09.16 12:44:00 - [60] - Quote The RE atop your Uplink only works once. What of a Burst HMG, HAV or ADS camping your Uplink? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley



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