@Leadfoot10:

I was going off of whatever Protofits was telling me, but I was also swapping around certain Complex Dampeners for Enhanced Dampeners due to them having no meaningful effect on the result while saving CPU for fitting other modules, fitting them as if I would use them in the game. Basically, if I could save the CPU while still being under 15 dB cloaked or uncloaked, I did it.

I thought I did say that you could drop one Dampener in favor of a different module for unscannable while cloaked on Amarr Scout. I guess it wasn't obvious since I changed the formatting of the other paragraphs.

This is truth.

The only way to fix this is to make scans less powerful the farther away from the source.

Un-hotfixable

My thoughts-Dampening for scouts needs to be buffed so that we can't have our sub 400 HP suits ping on everyones radar like a 2k HP heavy with resistances.

The counter for a dampened scout is plain and simple eyes and gun game.....if you keep getting killed by one, than he is simply a better player than you, and your gun game needs to be buffed and/or your situational awareness needs improvement.

Dampening should always be much more powerful than precision. With precision you gain the ability to see the enemy without him seeing you, which is ridiculous, nullifies sneak attacks and any weapons other than fine rifles. With dampening, you play the game just how its supposed to be played--with your eyes.

The dampened scout shouldn't ping on your radar, and you shouldn't ping on his, if you are a scout.

TL;DR--Stop trying to reinstate your perma-scan crutches--it breaks the real scouts in the game by a lot.

Eyes don't work much of the time on cloaked scouts in any non-dark area especially when those scouts have kincats. I stare intently where I know they are and don't even see them move sometimes because the lighting and particle effects distort the would be tell tale sign of a moving cloak. Dampened scouts sure no problem, but dampened and cloaked scouts with OHKO CQC weapons that has been the problem. First strike for the only strike is what people hate about cloaked scouts at the moment.

Judge's video pretty much sums it up here:
Judge's Video

Personally I think if there is a delay on when one can fire a weapon when deactivating a cloak the cheap tactics with the cloak will be dealt with. This will make the cloak a flanking tactic instead of a sprinting bunny hop OHKO shotgun blast before someone can even see you decloak situation. Scouts have low e/hp however they also have faster movement speed, wallhacks, and frames that are **** in the game's current hit detection with many false positives that occur when firing on them.

I do love it when scouts are hypocritical though and I just run a shotgun cloak and sneak up on their shotgun cloak and ohko them. "I'm sorry didn't you see me? Wasn't I obvious?!"

@Leadfoot10:

Yeah, I did untick the pre-Charlie Scouts in the All 5s character before making those fits, as I spotted a suspicious similarity between Amarr and Caldari Scout passive scan precision when mucking about. The strange dB numbers are all just from changing out certain Complex Dampeners for Enhanced and even a Basic on one of Gallente Scout fits I believe. They all ended up at or under 16.59 dB, the magic number for getting under 15 while cloaked. For the uncloaked fits under 15 dB, why bother dampening even more if you can make it just under 15 db with a weaker dampener? Save yourself the CPU for a better sidearm/optional module.

I did absolutely awful in that PC last night. Your scouts swung around WAY wide, I didn't even get a "Some Margin Of Error" using my early warning system before they were on me at home point. Guess I need to go quadruple scans so I can check the flanks more often, "must have one uplink" be damned. Didn't help that a bunch of the outside people DC'd mid-battle. I'm actually still pretty pissed off about that match.

You kinda fell for Gav's bait though, he's kind of the resident forum troll at the moment. So he gets a 3/10 for making someone give a serious reply. If Gav's serious though, then my god, the level of hypocrisy is astounding. A quadruple Focused Active Scanner fit can't even permascan anyway - maximum duration 30 seconds across four, recharge 40 seconds for the first one in the cycle. It'd take two Gallente Logistics running 3 Focused Scanners each and coordinating timing to permascan scouts if they even could scan them in the first place.

One more thing, if Active Scanners are made for scanning, and Dampeners are made for avoiding Active/Passive Scanners, then what is the Focused Active Scanner for other than picking up Dampened Scouts? Does it even have a purpose if it cannot do its job?