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saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 371	Posted - 2014.09.04 10:54:00 - [1] - Quote this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) SLAYER.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 458	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:48:00 - [2] - Quote Fair for logi would be +3 points not +30 for peek&boo. Dont even bother for your heavy to kill enemy.... just expose onself get toons of wp and hit back via OB... This is not OP, it is broken CCP. Not much time left...
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 371	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:54:00 - [3] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Fair for logi would be +3 points not +30 for peek&boo. Dont even bother for your heavy to kill enemy.... just expose onself get toons of wp and hit back via OB... This is not OP, it is broken CCP. i'm not stating its OP SLAYER.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1399	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:56:00 - [4] - Quote saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Are you using Minmatar logi? If not, why only BDR-2? Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 371	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:58:00 - [5] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Are you using Minmatar logi? If not, why only BDR-2? i only have a BDR-2 and yes i got my adv min logi like 2 games before :) SLAYER.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 458	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:58:00 - [6] - Quote But you agree that is easiest way to get toons of wp? Not even cap for OB set at 5K 'heal' this problem. It is just 'we stay same, rest go to hell' Not much time left...
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1400	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:59:00 - [7] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Repe Susi wrote: saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Are you using Minmatar logi? If not, why only BDR-2? i only have a BDR-2 and yes i got my adv min logi like 2 games before :) Well. Nothing much to say then. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 372	Posted - 2014.09.04 13:02:00 - [8] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: But you agree that is easiest way to get toons of wp? Not even cap for OB set at 5K 'heal' this problem. It is just 'we stay same, rest go to hell' i used too be a wp spammer in 1.7 i would have my gk.o logi with 967 armour W/ 3 dammods and a rail rifle while having 4 core focused rep tools on me i would kill 6-7 people and get a orb it was fun but i got alot of hate for it :P SLAYER.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 793	Posted - 2014.09.04 13:54:00 - [9] - Quote Noisy **** Video Compliation you made there sax. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)
Arcturis Vanguard Murphys-Law 277	Posted - 2014.09.04 14:39:00 - [10] - Quote And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR


GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:15:00 - [11] - Quote 2 orbs one squad or 2 Mercs, only 2 orbs No, seriously the video is cool. Teamwork is, and hopefully will always be a very powerful tactic. Good game! GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 503	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:21:00 - [12] - Quote Thank you Saxon for capturing my solo OB on the other team on a 1.6M SP alt :P also, GG
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 372	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:23:00 - [13] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: 2 orbs one squad or 2 Mercs, only 2 orbs No, seriously the video is cool. Teamwork is, and hopefully will always be a very powerful tactic. Good game! Thankyou I'm glad you like my vids :) SLAYER.

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 389	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:37:00 - [14] - Quote Can you please, in the name of everything that is holy, put one together where you just ram people with an LAV? I sure do love the murder taxi. With a song like this, or possibly this one. That would be awesome! GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 372	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:46:00 - [15] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Can you please, in the name of everything that is holy, put one together where you just ram people with an LAV? I sure do love the murder taxi. With a song like this, or possibly this one. That would be awesome! Haha, Seriously? Also if you can arrange for me to have a logi lav for a day i will :P SLAYER.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 427	Posted - 2014.09.04 17:54:00 - [16] - Quote Holy donut .... Stupid lemmings Lonewolf till I die
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 578	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:05:00 - [17] - Quote saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) WHY AREN'T MY MATCHES AS FUN AS THESE?! Great game though. Interesting that you use the Rail Rifle; I prefer the Combat Rifle. Also, R-9s? Why not the N/11 (I think that's what it is. The Advanced Flux Uplink)? Great video and good choices of music! Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 375	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:18:00 - [18] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) WHY AREN'T MY MATCHES AS FUN AS THESE?! Great game though. Interesting that you use the Rail Rifle; I prefer the Combat Rifle. Also, R-9s? Why not the N/11 (I think that's what it is. The Advanced Flux Uplink)? Great video and good choices of music! Thanks and all my logi stuff is lev 3 so R-9's are the best i can use :/ SLAYER.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 375	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:20:00 - [19] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Can you please, in the name of everything that is holy, put one together where you just ram people with an LAV? I sure do love the murder taxi. With a song like this, or possibly this one. That would be awesome! Edit: or this song, OMG! I'll use the skrillex one :P SLAYER.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1456	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:34:00 - [20] - Quote Another in a long line of excellent videos, Sax. Thanks again for sharing. Two points: #1 - There is no better WP farm than a protracted fight in an enclosed space in domination. #2 - Just wait until you get the dual beam repper...you might manage 3 orbitals! As an aside, you went negative in that round. Welcome to the world of a logi, and thank you for confirming you are indeed human. ;) Have fun...Leadfoot

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 377	Posted - 2014.09.04 19:53:00 - [21] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Another in a long line of excellent videos, Sax. Thanks again for sharing. Two points: #1 - There is no better WP farm than a protracted fight in an enclosed space in domination. #2 - Just wait until you get the dual beam repper...you might manage 3 orbitals! As an aside, you went negative in that round. Welcome to the world of a logi, and thank you for confirming you are indeed human. ;) Have fun...Leadfoot Haha thanks man :) I hope you weren't thinking i was a bot :P Yea theres still lots of stuff i need to spec into but i think its my time to put the gun down and help a fellow merc :) SLAYER.
Michael Arck 5389	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:19:00 - [22] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
MythTanker Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 218	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:30:00 - [23] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! blushes thanks man much appreciated. I didn't know I was making a reputation for myself The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 363	Posted - 2014.09.04 21:41:00 - [24] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: 2 orbs one squad or 2 Mercs, only 2 orbs No, seriously the video is cool. Teamwork is, and hopefully will always be a very powerful tactic. Good game! http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=10m35s work as it suppose I guess?! Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 595	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:07:00 - [25] - Quote I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for loging. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? When people abuse it, it is absolutely broken. I've had games where a squad of logis did nothing but spam equipment and damage themselves with grenades in our red line. They wracked up 4500-5500 LP each dropped a couple of useless orbitals and made off with all of our teams isk payout thanks to broken mechanics. It can be disheartening that the game pays lously for the grunts actually killing and holding objectives, unless they also logi spam.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 363	Posted - 2014.09.04 22:20:00 - [26] - Quote http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
Zindorak 1.U.P 798	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:04:00 - [27] - Quote Man this is why i love the logi role. You benefit yourself and your rep target Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Arcturis Vanguard Murphys-Law 281	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:05:00 - [28] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Arcturis Vanguard wrote: And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. As a dedicated heavy since launch of chromosome, I know what its like to never generate wp compared to other classes. It wasn't until the introduction of vehicle damage/wp gain where a heavy could actually generate a wp income to rival what a logi can with minimal effort. Still, any class with an equipment slot can still generate enough wp to get an orbital while working together to help each other. Even if someone isn't skilled into a particular piece of equipment there are militia variants that typically generate the same wp as a skilled role, with subtle differences. If a squad doesn't communicate before a match on who will carry what for which purpose, then frankly they are doomed to fail from the get go. Which in fact is truthful that they need to get good. This is not narrow minded nor is it a stupid post. I will end with this statement that logis are capable of generating larger amounts of wps quicker then other classes because of the amount of equipment they can carry. This is common knowledge. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
MythTanker Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 219	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:08:00 - [29] - Quote Zindorak wrote: Man this is why i love the logi role. You benefit yourself and your rep target Yea I got to hand it to Saxon. He kept me up and worked with my. "Run in and shoot everyone in the face with a blood thirsty smile" The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Zindorak 1.U.P 798	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:09:00 - [30] - Quote MythTanker wrote: Zindorak wrote: Man this is why i love the logi role. You benefit yourself and your rep target Yea I got to hand it to Saxon. He kept me up and worked with my. "Run in and shoot everyone in the face with a blood thirsty smile" Ya lol Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad

TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 222	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:42:00 - [31] - Quote saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) It'll help to have your min logi skilled to level five, the Core Focused Repair Tool is AWESOME. The fatty youre chasing will love you. But you have to be kinda close , thats the only issue. Play some Factional Warefare for the State Peacekeepers, then goto the layaty store in the market place and get the proto nanite injector. It gives 100%
Michael Arck 5398	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:47:00 - [32] - Quote Arcturis Vanguard wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Arcturis Vanguard wrote: And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. As a dedicated heavy since launch of chromosome, I know what its like to never generate wp compared to other classes. It wasn't until the introduction of vehicle damage/wp gain where a heavy could actually generate a wp income to rival what a logi can with minimal effort. Still, any class with an equipment slot can still generate enough wp to get an orbital while working together to help each other. Even if someone isn't skilled into a particular piece of equipment there are militia variants that typically generate the same wp as a skilled role, with subtle differences. If a squad doesn't communicate before a match on who will carry what for which purpose, then frankly they are doomed to fail from the get go. Which in fact is truthful that they need to get good. This is not narrow minded nor is it a stupid post. I will end with this statement that logis are capable of generating larger amounts of wps quicker then other classes because of the amount of equipment they can carry. This is common knowledge. All that talk and you fail to realize the simplistic. Not everybody is a tryhard Dust nerd who plays this game for 4-6 hours in a day. Not everybody plays at certain levels of competitiveness that would be easy for some wanna be elite to say "oh I get two per squad so I don't see the problem". Not everybody here is friends with people who consist of all the roles for an ideal squad. This is common knowledge to someone who doesn't have their head up their ass. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Zindorak 1.U.P 800	Posted - 2014.09.05 00:48:00 - [33] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Arcturis Vanguard wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Arcturis Vanguard wrote: And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital... Maybe the community needs to get good? I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. As a dedicated heavy since launch of chromosome, I know what its like to never generate wp compared to other classes. It wasn't until the introduction of vehicle damage/wp gain where a heavy could actually generate a wp income to rival what a logi can with minimal effort. Still, any class with an equipment slot can still generate enough wp to get an orbital while working together to help each other. Even if someone isn't skilled into a particular piece of equipment there are militia variants that typically generate the same wp as a skilled role, with subtle differences. If a squad doesn't communicate before a match on who will carry what for which purpose, then frankly they are doomed to fail from the get go. Which in fact is truthful that they need to get good. This is not narrow minded nor is it a stupid post. I will end with this statement that logis are capable of generating larger amounts of wps quicker then other classes because of the amount of equipment they can carry. This is common knowledge. All that talk and you fail to realize the simplistic. Not everybody is a tryhard Dust nerd who plays this game for 4-6 hours in a day. Not everybody plays at certain levels of competitiveness that would be easy for some wanna be elite to say "oh I get two per squad so I don't see the problem". Not everybody here is friends with people who consist of all the roles for an ideal squad. This is common knowledge to someone who doesn't have their head up their ass. lol nice one that was funny Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
TritusX PH4NT0M5 19	Posted - 2014.09.05 01:22:00 - [34] - Quote Just saying, not to be rude and all, but I'm watching this video like, good job man, but then I'm like, you've got a whole bunch of other heavies helping you kill and they get low on armor and myth is full. You just stand there repping myth while the other guy is waiting for his armor to rep or just waiting for you. This is the BS I hate the most from logis. I am a logi myself. I go around and rep every guy, not just my squad mates. I've seen other guys die right in front of a logi. Guess what? That logi is too busy repping this heavy with full armor that he can't drop back on pick up a guy. Not saying you are a bad guy, but I saw you do that a couple times. Scout 514 forever
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 222	Posted - 2014.09.05 01:23:00 - [35] - Quote saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Also: nanohives with reps. In that hallway with all those mercs....
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 381	Posted - 2014.09.05 05:22:00 - [36] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Also: nanohives with reps. In that hallway with all those mercs.... not skilled into them im afraid :/ SLAYER.
TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn Going for the gold 135	Posted - 2014.09.05 10:57:00 - [37] - Quote That galmando near then end of the video with the HK4M shotgun looked like iron man 32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.09.05 11:28:00 - [38] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for logi'ing. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? That's a good question considering that's incorrect. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3317	Posted - 2014.09.05 11:30:00 - [39] - Quote What was the last song you used?
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 581	Posted - 2014.09.05 11:40:00 - [40] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou

TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 600	Posted - 2014.09.05 12:34:00 - [41] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for logi'ing. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? That's a good question considering that's incorrect. Triage = +25 and Kill assist = +25 Explain how it's incorrect.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 600	Posted - 2014.09.05 12:37:00 - [42] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now?
MythTanker Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 220	Posted - 2014.09.05 13:06:00 - [43] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now? Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person logging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be. The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 972	Posted - 2014.09.05 15:10:00 - [44] - Quote only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Banjo Robertson Evzones Public.Disorder. 260	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:44:00 - [45] - Quote One suggestion I would have is maybe swap out your nanjo injector for a nanjo hive, or a triage hive, might give you more WP than your nano injector did and it would allow you to keep using the repair tool instead of having to swap back and forth between injector and rep tool.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 27	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:48:00 - [46] - Quote stop patting yourselves on the back CCP the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore. and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1467	Posted - 2014.09.05 16:58:00 - [47] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: Another in a long line of excellent videos, Sax. Thanks again for sharing. Two points: #1 - There is no better WP farm than a protracted fight in an enclosed space in domination. #2 - Just wait until you get the dual beam repper...you might manage 3 orbitals! As an aside, you went negative in that round. Welcome to the world of a logi, and thank you for confirming you are indeed human. ;) Have fun...Leadfoot Haha thanks man :) I hope you weren't thinking i was a bot :P Yea theres still lots of stuff i need to spec into but i think its my time to put the gun down and help a fellow merc :) Logi-ing can be a heck of a lot of fun, and you can really run up the WP, as you've shown quite well in the video. Just wait until you have that dual repper and some more range, too -- it becomes EVEN MORE of a WP machine, and you probably would have had 1.5x to 2x the points if you ran it in that same match on video. Even better with the core tool (or the one from the Loyalty Store), and Myth Tanker (hi bud!) could have stood longer in the line of fire for some of those engagements rather than having to break off and let you rep him, adding up to an even more survivable heavy and more WP. You might also play around with a scout with a repper, which has other unique advantages in the EWAR & speed departments, making your heavy even more devastating, even if you're more squishy. Try a dual beam rep tool and a cloak (or a uplink or hive or a needle) and stack some HP on the suit and use your strafing speed and EWAR to stay out of direct fire. The WP piles up and it's fun, fun, fun!
REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:02:00 - [48] - Quote MythTanker wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Kaze Eyrou wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now? Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person loging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be. ^^^^ This a million times over.
REDBACK96USMC Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 26	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:05:00 - [49] - Quote Put your money where you mouth is. If it is so easy to get the WP, then I challenge you to post YOUR pic of YOUR guy with 4K+ WP from logi. GO!
NAV HIV The Generals 2053	Posted - 2014.09.05 17:30:00 - [50] - Quote saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Had a two OB for my Heavy + logi Combo last night... GG

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:13:00 - [51] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: saxonmish wrote: this is a 2 man squad getting 2 orbs im the logi for all that watch :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0fFn2_RlNo Enjoy :) Had a two OB for my Heavy + logi Combo last night... GG Nice :) GG SLAYER.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:15:00 - [52] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: stop patting yourselves on the back CCP the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore. and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. Was you around before the re tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be. SLAYER.
CommanderBolt Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1476	Posted - 2014.09.05 19:16:00 - [53] - Quote God damn Protoss are WAY too F-lng OP! AMIRITE!? TERRAN VICTOR! oh wait.... -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.09.05 22:10:00 - [54] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: God damn Protoss are WAY too F-lng OP! AMIRITE!? TERRAN VICTOR! oh wait.... URRITE SLAYER.
Kin Cat Another Clone in the Wall 31	Posted - 2014.09.05 23:10:00 - [55] - Quote saxonmish wrote: Kin Cat wrote: stop patting yourselves on the back CCP the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore. and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. Was you around before the rep tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be. i can and i did. gal logis hate minmatar and amarr logis.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 386	Posted - 2014.09.06 00:02:00 - [56] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: saxonmish wrote: Kin Cat wrote: stop patting yourselves on the back CCP the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore. and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. Was you around before the rep tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be. i can and i did. gal logis hate minmatar and amarr logis. why? SLAYER.
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 363	Posted - 2014.09.06 21:32:00 - [57] - Quote saxonmish wrote: why? Look, RT were not nerfed, they were just assign to specific race of Logi. He my be angry because you as MM can extract more WP from your bonus. Kaze Eyrou wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it? War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? You are telling about bug when system could not recognize damage done to vehicle - a bug is not something that can balance game. MythTanker wrote: Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person loging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be. It has nothing to do of 'who' were Logi here, and for how long.. WP system were never touched by CCP in balancing whey, all we seen so far was adding new WP rewards to already existing ones, it was never rebuilding it from the start and balancing it. Of cures were we are today is not so scary and this situation may continue for at least one more year, but if future it have to be tackle and re-balanced. But also it should introduce new mechanics to the game, like working bullet penetration - it should be determined how many 'invisible' HP player have when he lose his armor points, and when he can be picked up and when not. There should be some scars on person that was revive, drawbacks on shield regeneration for example or weapon reload speed. Main reason why I do not like current WP reward is that they are flat to all game modes. Objective of Ambush match is to kill opposite clones, and doing so should give players the most WP, sounds reasonable right? Well today in Domination, person who hack neutral terminal and do nothing else get just 100 WP at the end - for destroying giant ship, and bunch of blueberrys that camped CRU all match get best reward. There should be more logic in this system. Gallente Speed Scout. EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido

GM Archduke Game Masters C C P Alliance 420	Posted - 2014.09.07 23:59:00 - [58] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=10m35s work as it suppose I guess?! Guardian points for kills with an orbital? As far as I know it is the current intended mechanic, but we had discussions with Rattati and Logibro regarding that this may be overpowered. We'll see, stay tuned. GM Archduke CCP Customer Support \| EVE Online \| DUST 514

xavier zor KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 35	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:09:00 - [59] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol. you and all the other jealous haters that make these comments are funny. Because you know that you could never do this... BTW Saxonmish see you in the PC battle! Tactical Assault Rifle's for life
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 401	Posted - 2014.09.08 06:19:00 - [60] - Quote xavier zor wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol. you and all the other jealous haters that make these comments are funny. Because you know that you could never do this... BTW Saxonmish see you in the PC battle! i can't do mny Pc's during the weekdays cos of college :/ lol SLAYER.

saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 401	Posted - 2014.09.08 06:20:00 - [61] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=10m35s work as it suppose I guess?! Guardian points for kills with an orbital? As far as I know it is the current intended mechanic, but we had discussions with Rattati and Logibro regarding that this may be overpowered. We'll see, stay tuned. i think its fine, its like a little reward for getting the orb :P SLAYER.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2799	Posted - 2014.09.08 07:53:00 - [62] - Quote Look at 5.15, there are many downed allies, it takes too long to revive someone, CCP should fix this. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1098	Posted - 2014.09.08 08:25:00 - [63] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for logi'ing. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? When people abuse it, it is absolutely broken. I've had games where a squad of logis did nothing but spam equipment and damage themselves with grenades in our red line. They wracked up 4500-5500 WP each dropped a couple of useless orbitals and made off with all of our teams isk payout thanks to broken mechanics. It can be disheartening that the game pays lousily for the grunts actually killing and holding objectives, unless they also logi spam. Inb4 "Well would you rather not have any logi gear!?" I don't mind them getting WPs but something more reasonable I mean if destroying equipment awards 5 points why the hell does one nano hive usage = 10? Also, considering payouts are better for the victor it is in the best interest of logis to logi effectively especially if they can't just WP farm and make off with hundreds of thousands of isk on the losing side. Edit: In my opinion: Team Resupply = 5 Team Uplinks = 25 (This I think is fair as it requires players to actually use the equipment and can't be spammed without suicide spamming which should have an auto kick feature anyways if you keep suiciding in quick succession.) Triage/Guardian = 10 Nanite Revive = 25 Liar,self-harm doesn't reward WP. Refilling ammo does. Simple tips: -While behind cover look backwards while repping,dem SG scouts -Assume the objective has an RE on it,even if it isn't hacked Aww noob logis,poor suckers don't know what they're in for. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1098	Posted - 2014.09.08 08:34:00 - [64] - Quote Kin Cat wrote: stop patting yourselves on the back CCP the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore. and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. >rep tool is OP >can't outrep a basic weapon with a six kin (Pro tool) >Wp cap >He died enough to bypass it >Lost more isk than he gained (possibly) Triage is 'life assist'. Kill assist is death assist. Helping someones DPS gets rewarded,helping someones reps gets rewarded. If it's so easy,you do it. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 992	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:00:00 - [65] - Quote GM Archduke wrote: 2 orbs one squad or 2 Mercs, only 2 orbs No, seriously the video is cool. Teamwork is, and hopefully will always be a very powerful tactic. Good game! That was not teamwork... That could have been done by a bot placed on "strafe" and "follow only me" commands. Notice how the rest of the team was often without healing? Notice how the rest of the team was often not needled? Also, you don't need points for healing someone who killed another person, you get far more than enough just healing with the rep-tool, and the uplinks... 100 points for 1 kill should not be ingame at all. Orbitals should be collected by securing external Hardpoints, and gaining credits toward said orbital from there. That way the team that is holding the objective doesn't get the orbital, the team that is trying to breach does. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 401	Posted - 2014.09.08 11:46:00 - [66] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Look at 5.15, there are many downed allies, it takes too long to revive someone, CCP should fix this. I think there should be a heal grenade where you throw it and it heals people within the radius :) just an idea SLAYER.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 463	Posted - 2014.09.08 11:58:00 - [67] - Quote Also proximity helth mines will be ok.... you must just dropdown your 'ragdol' on it. It will be little tricky .. but should work. Not much time left...
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 401	Posted - 2014.09.08 12:10:00 - [68] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: Also proximity helth mines will be ok.... you must just dropdown your 'ragdol' on it. It will be little tricky .. but should work. proxy mines should be in the game anyway (like claymores) SLAYER.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2802	Posted - 2014.09.08 12:27:00 - [69] - Quote saxonmish wrote: shaman oga wrote: Look at 5.15, there are many downed allies, it takes too long to revive someone, CCP should fix this. I think there should be a heal grenade where you throw it and it heals people within the radius :) just an idea Idk, i would just like to revive faster, just like in bf3, it's easier to find downed allies and it's faster to revive them. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
saxonmish Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 401	Posted - 2014.09.08 14:26:00 - [70] - Quote shaman oga wrote: saxonmish wrote: shaman oga wrote: Look at 5.15, there are many downed allies, it takes too long to revive someone, CCP should fix this. I think there should be a heal grenade where you throw it and it heals people within the radius :) just an idea Idk, i would just like to revive faster, just like in bf3, it's easier to find downed allies and it's faster to revive them. yea same on mag, on mag it was just a spray SLAYER.

Meee One Hello Kitty Logistics 1101	Posted - 2014.09.08 19:33:00 - [71] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: GM Archduke wrote: 2 orbs one squad or 2 Mercs, only 2 orbs No, seriously the video is cool. Teamwork is, and hopefully will always be a very powerful tactic. Good game! That was not teamwork... That could have been done by a bot placed on "strafe" and "follow only me" commands. Notice how the rest of the team was often without healing? Notice how the rest of the team was often not needled? Also, you don't need points for healing someone who killed another person, you get far more than enough just healing with the rep-tool, and the uplinks... 100 points for 1 kill should not be ingame at all. Orbitals should be collected by securing external Hardpoints, and gaining credits toward said orbital from there. That way the team that is holding the objective doesn't get the orbital, the team that is trying to breach does. He was using a rep tool with only a single beam. They died in places he would have been killed at trying to save them (in some cases). It boils down to: -Rep a skilled person and kill more enemies -or- -Rep noobs and let the skilled person possibly die by being overwhelmed Using a 2 beam tool makes the choice easier,but a 1 beam tool requires you to make those kinds of sacrifices. After he becomes accustomed to being a logi,his skills will improve so that he is able to help more people. TBH,he was faced with information overload. Was banned for fighting for logistics survival on 7/25/2014 02:11. Logistics will never be respected.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1477	Posted - 2014.09.08 20:10:00 - [72] - Quote Took me more than a week, but a logi and my trusty Dren Sentinel equipped with a MLR-A bHMG finally reached the 10k point plateau. The Logi (TcuBe3) had 7,743 WP (0-8), and I went 3,629 WP (39-10). We were with a 6 man squad at the time. Thanks go to a squad of VU who really, really brought it that round. Sorry, no video, but I do have the screenshot in case nobody believes me. :) Keep the videos coming, Sax.


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