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TODDSTER024
Revive Repair Resupply
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:42:00 -
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It'll help to have your min logi skilled to level five, the Core Focused Repair Tool is AWESOME. The fatty youre chasing will love you. But you have to be kinda close , thats the only issue.
Play some Factional Warefare for the State Peacekeepers, then goto the layaty store in the market place and get the proto nanite injector. It gives 100% |
Michael Arck
5398
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:47:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital...
Maybe the community needs to get good?
I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. As a dedicated heavy since launch of chromosome, I know what its like to never generate wp compared to other classes. It wasn't until the introduction of vehicle damage/wp gain where a heavy could actually generate a wp income to rival what a logi can with minimal effort. Still, any class with an equipment slot can still generate enough wp to get an orbital while working together to help each other. Even if someone isn't skilled into a particular piece of equipment there are militia variants that typically generate the same wp as a skilled role, with subtle differences. If a squad doesn't communicate before a match on who will carry what for which purpose, then frankly they are doomed to fail from the get go. Which in fact is truthful that they need to get good. This is not narrow minded nor is it a stupid post. I will end with this statement that logis are capable of generating larger amounts of wps quicker then other classes because of the amount of equipment they can carry. This is common knowledge.
All that talk and you fail to realize the simplistic.
Not everybody is a tryhard Dust nerd who plays this game for 4-6 hours in a day. Not everybody plays at certain levels of competitiveness that would be easy for some wanna be elite to say "oh I get two per squad so I don't see the problem". Not everybody here is friends with people who consist of all the roles for an ideal squad.
This is common knowledge to someone who doesn't have their head up their ass.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Zindorak
1.U.P
800
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Posted - 2014.09.05 00:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Arcturis Vanguard wrote:And people complain that it is too hard to squads less then 6 people to get an orbital...
Maybe the community needs to get good?
I remember when mythtanker was still green in his dust career and giving him some much needed heavy advise as he tended to expose himself in very bad situations. I'm glad he has improved his heavy skills and is budding into a talented heavy, better then most I've come across! What stupid post. Not everyone runs a WP whoring squad. Some people get on for a few minutes, playing with assaults, scouts or commando, you know. Narrow vision you have. As a dedicated heavy since launch of chromosome, I know what its like to never generate wp compared to other classes. It wasn't until the introduction of vehicle damage/wp gain where a heavy could actually generate a wp income to rival what a logi can with minimal effort. Still, any class with an equipment slot can still generate enough wp to get an orbital while working together to help each other. Even if someone isn't skilled into a particular piece of equipment there are militia variants that typically generate the same wp as a skilled role, with subtle differences. If a squad doesn't communicate before a match on who will carry what for which purpose, then frankly they are doomed to fail from the get go. Which in fact is truthful that they need to get good. This is not narrow minded nor is it a stupid post. I will end with this statement that logis are capable of generating larger amounts of wps quicker then other classes because of the amount of equipment they can carry. This is common knowledge. All that talk and you fail to realize the simplistic. Not everybody is a tryhard Dust nerd who plays this game for 4-6 hours in a day. Not everybody plays at certain levels of competitiveness that would be easy for some wanna be elite to say "oh I get two per squad so I don't see the problem". Not everybody here is friends with people who consist of all the roles for an ideal squad. This is common knowledge to someone who doesn't have their head up their ass. lol nice one that was funny
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
19
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:22:00 -
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Just saying, not to be rude and all, but I'm watching this video like, good job man, but then I'm like, you've got a whole bunch of other heavies helping you kill and they get low on armor and myth is full. You just stand there repping myth while the other guy is waiting for his armor to rep or just waiting for you. This is the BS I hate the most from logis. I am a logi myself. I go around and rep every guy, not just my squad mates. I've seen other guys die right in front of a logi. Guess what? That logi is too busy repping this heavy with full armor that he can't drop back on pick up a guy. Not saying you are a bad guy, but I saw you do that a couple times.
Scout 514 forever
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TODDSTER024
Revive Repair Resupply
222
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Posted - 2014.09.05 01:23:00 -
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Also: nanohives with reps. In that hallway with all those mercs.... |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
381
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Posted - 2014.09.05 05:22:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:Also: nanohives with reps. In that hallway with all those mercs....
not skilled into them im afraid :/
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn
Going for the gold
135
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Posted - 2014.09.05 10:57:00 -
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That galmando near then end of the video with the HK4M shotgun looked like iron man
32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
581
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:28:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for logi'ing. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? That's a good question considering that's incorrect.
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3317
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:30:00 -
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What was the last song you used? |
Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
581
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Posted - 2014.09.05 11:40:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it?
War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech.
War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so?
Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
600
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:34:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:I think that's been a pretty well ignored issue that WP is too easily awarded for logi'ing. Why would two seconds of repping = a kill assist? That's a good question considering that's incorrect.
Triage = +25 and Kill assist = +25
Explain how it's incorrect. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
600
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Posted - 2014.09.05 12:37:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it?
War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so?
Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now? |
MythTanker
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2014.09.05 13:06:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it?
War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now? Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person logging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be.
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
972
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Posted - 2014.09.05 15:10:00 -
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only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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Banjo Robertson
Evzones Public.Disorder.
260
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:44:00 -
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One suggestion I would have is maybe swap out your nanjo injector for a nanjo hive, or a triage hive, might give you more WP than your nano injector did and it would allow you to keep using the repair tool instead of having to swap back and forth between injector and rep tool. |
Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:48:00 -
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stop patting yourselves on the back CCP
the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs
we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore.
and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1467
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Posted - 2014.09.05 16:58:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Another in a long line of excellent videos, Sax. Thanks again for sharing. Two points:
#1 - There is no better WP farm than a protracted fight in an enclosed space in domination. #2 - Just wait until you get the dual beam repper...you might manage 3 orbitals!
As an aside, you went negative in that round. Welcome to the world of a logi, and thank you for confirming you are indeed human. ;)
Have fun...Leadfoot Haha thanks man :) I hope you weren't thinking i was a bot :P Yea theres still lots of stuff i need to spec into but i think its my time to put the gun down and help a fellow merc :)
Logi-ing can be a heck of a lot of fun, and you can really run up the WP, as you've shown quite well in the video. Just wait until you have that dual repper and some more range, too -- it becomes EVEN MORE of a WP machine, and you probably would have had 1.5x to 2x the points if you ran it in that same match on video. Even better with the core tool (or the one from the Loyalty Store), and Myth Tanker (hi bud!) could have stood longer in the line of fire for some of those engagements rather than having to break off and let you rep him, adding up to an even more survivable heavy and more WP.
You might also play around with a scout with a repper, which has other unique advantages in the EWAR & speed departments, making your heavy even more devastating, even if you're more squishy. Try a dual beam rep tool and a cloak (or a uplink or hive or a needle) and stack some HP on the suit and use your strafing speed and EWAR to stay out of direct fire. The WP piles up and it's fun, fun, fun! |
REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
26
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:02:00 -
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MythTanker wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it?
War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? Hey guys don't worry we only spilled 10,000 gallons of oil in the ocean today instead of 50,000 gallons. Do people like you ever get tired of not making sense? So because it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be it equals balanced now? Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person loging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be.
^^^^
This a million times over.
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REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
26
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:05:00 -
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Put your money where you mouth is. If it is so easy to get the WP, then I challenge you to post YOUR pic of YOUR guy with 4K+ WP from logi. GO! |
NAV HIV
The Generals
2053
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Posted - 2014.09.05 17:30:00 -
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Had a two OB for my Heavy + logi Combo last night... GG |
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
386
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:13:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Had a two OB for my Heavy + logi Combo last night... GG
Nice :) GG
SLAYER.
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
386
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:15:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:stop patting yourselves on the back CCP
the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs
we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore.
and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore.
Was you around before the re tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be.
SLAYER.
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CommanderBolt
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
1476
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Posted - 2014.09.05 19:16:00 -
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God damn Protoss are WAY too F-lng OP! AMIRITE!?
TERRAN VICTOR!
oh wait....
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
386
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Posted - 2014.09.05 22:10:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:God damn Protoss are WAY too F-lng OP! AMIRITE!?
TERRAN VICTOR!
oh wait....
URRITE
SLAYER.
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Kin Cat
Another Clone in the Wall
31
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Posted - 2014.09.05 23:10:00 -
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saxonmish wrote:Kin Cat wrote:stop patting yourselves on the back CCP
the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs
we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore.
and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. Was you around before the rep tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be.
i can and i did. gal logis hate minmatar and amarr logis. |
saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
386
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Posted - 2014.09.06 00:02:00 -
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Kin Cat wrote:saxonmish wrote:Kin Cat wrote:stop patting yourselves on the back CCP
the only reason this video exists is because the rep tool is OP and its WP reward should have been nerfed, not the ******* amount of WP for OBs
we can't even clear people who camp on top of buildings anymore.
and with your sniper range nerf, the snipers probably won't be able to see the top of the tower anymore. Was you around before the rep tool nerf? cos you cant call the rep tool op now compared to how it used to be. i can and i did. gal logis hate minmatar and amarr logis.
why?
SLAYER.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
363
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Posted - 2014.09.06 21:32:00 -
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Look, RT were not nerfed, they were just assign to specific race of Logi. He my be angry because you as MM can extract more WP from your bonus.
Kaze Eyrou wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=11m58s Just look at this situation. 72WP points for reviving guy, and he is not on full hp. So Logi can extract even more WP from him 30-60 more at least. And ask yourself how many points did get guy who killed him - 50? Where is sens of killing someone if you reward opposite team with free orbitals because of it?
War Points mechanic is too old, and need to be balanced somehow in future. Needles were going to be changed to only award 25/50/75 based on the needle tech. War Points are a lot more balanced than they used to be. You guys remember the 30,000 WP Repair Tool users using an LAV to OB every 30 seconds or so? You are telling about bug when system could not recognize damage done to vehicle - a bug is not something that can balance game.
MythTanker wrote: Hey I understand where your coming from but remember that the person loging me has played this game for a long time. Even longer then me. Yea he might have just picked up a rep tool that day but realise how many logis and heavies he has worked with. He know their mindset. Just like I know how to keep my logi alive. We also had to go through several games before we even did that match. It was just was really great match. I know the WP system has its flaws but it isn't ridiculous like it is being portrayed to be.
It has nothing to do of 'who' were Logi here, and for how long.. WP system were never touched by CCP in balancing whey, all we seen so far was adding new WP rewards to already existing ones, it was never rebuilding it from the start and balancing it.
Of cures were we are today is not so scary and this situation may continue for at least one more year, but if future it have to be tackle and re-balanced. But also it should introduce new mechanics to the game, like working bullet penetration - it should be determined how many 'invisible' HP player have when he lose his armor points, and when he can be picked up and when not. There should be some scars on person that was revive, drawbacks on shield regeneration for example or weapon reload speed.
Main reason why I do not like current WP reward is that they are flat to all game modes. Objective of Ambush match is to kill opposite clones, and doing so should give players the most WP, sounds reasonable right? Well today in Domination, person who hack neutral terminal and do nothing else get just 100 WP at the end - for destroying giant ship, and bunch of blueberrys that camped CRU all match get best reward. There should be more logic in this system.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
420
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Posted - 2014.09.07 23:59:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:http://youtu.be/R0fFn2_RlNo?t=10m35s work as it suppose I guess?!
Guardian points for kills with an orbital? As far as I know it is the current intended mechanic, but we had discussions with Rattati and Logibro regarding that this may be overpowered. We'll see, stay tuned.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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xavier zor
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
35
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Posted - 2014.09.08 00:09:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol.
you and all the other jealous haters that make these comments are funny. Because you know that you could never do this...
BTW Saxonmish see you in the PC battle!
Tactical Assault Rifle's for life
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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.09.08 06:19:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:only 2? when hes farming pointsoff a heavy? ive done 2 orbs in a 2man slayer squad with just 2 slayers running around by themselves getting 30-40 kills lol. you and all the other jealous haters that make these comments are funny. Because you know that you could never do this... BTW Saxonmish see you in the PC battle!
i can't do mny Pc's during the weekdays cos of college :/ lol
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