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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:56:00 -
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I started playing Dust 514 a few days ago, and I have have been actually doing well (if you consider the fact that I NEVER played any FPS game). At first I though it was a Battlefield meets Halo game, and it kinda is, but I enjoyed it, and that's what it matters. On day two, I booted the game up, I went to play Skirmish (which is the gamemode I do worst in) and I kept noticing THAT THERE WAS HEAVY MACHINE GUNNERS EVERYWHERE! If it wasn't Heavy Machine Guns, it was a Forge Gun (which is insanely OP, one-hit kill), and in close range, it was most of the time a Scrambler Rifle (ScR as you call here). I always seem to get 3-5k SP, but the skill I am looking forward to get is 175k SP (which is necessary (sorry if I spelled it wrong) to get the scout suit, so I can be a Ninja). This takes a lot of hours of grinding, something that most times I don't have time to do. I did get the Nova Knives a few days ago, and when I am in close range I am a damn beast. Unless it's a machine gunner. So far, Ambush and Domination seem to be the best gamemodes for me, as well as easy to farm SP/ISK. I also have over a million ISK, which I think that for professional's, it's nearly nothing.
That's about it. It's my opinion so far. If you could give any tips, I would thank you. And that's about it. I will try to reply as much as I can.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
91
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:03:00 -
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Im honored to give you your first like..NOW RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! |
BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo
2984
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:09:00 -
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:I started playing Dust 514 a few days ago, and I have have been actually doing well (if you consider the fact that I NEVER played any FPS game). At first I though it was a Battlefield meets Halo game, and it kinda is, but I enjoyed it, and that's what it matters. On day two, I booted the game up, I went to play Skirmish (which is the gamemode I do worst in) and I kept noticing THAT THERE WAS HEAVY MACHINE GUNNERS EVERYWHERE! If it wasn't Heavy Machine Guns, it was a Forge Gun (which is insanely OP, one-hit kill), and in close range, it was most of the time a Scrambler Rifle (ScR as you call here). I always seem to get 3-5k SP, but the skill I am looking forward to get is 175k SP (which is necessary (sorry if I spelled it wrong) to get the scout suit, so I can be a Ninja). This takes a lot of hours of grinding, something that most times I don't have time to do. I did get the Nova Knives a few days ago, and when I am in close range I am a damn beast. Unless it's a machine gunner. So far, Ambush and Domination seem to be the best gamemodes for me, as well as easy to farm SP/ISK. I also have over a million ISK, which I think that for professional's, it's nearly nothing.
That's about it. It's my opinion so far. If you could give any tips, I would thank you. And that's about it. I will try to reply as much as I can.
Get yourself a cloak, a advanced scout and a rail rifle, combat rifle, or SCR. Then slowly work your way up the core skills, ewar skills, and tank little by little. The best advice I can give you is that with maxed core skills you can turn any suit into a monster if your good. Proto suits are overhyped and you will loose money if you aim to "protostomp". It's a tough road ahead of you but with about 10M sp and not wasting your sp you will be okay. The first 3-6 months are rough.
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:12:00 -
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JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:Im honored to give you your first like..NOW RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
I ALREADY RUN FOR MY LIFE, DAMNIT!
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:24:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:I started playing Dust 514 a few days ago, and I have have been actually doing well (if you consider the fact that I NEVER played any FPS game). At first I though it was a Battlefield meets Halo game, and it kinda is, but I enjoyed it, and that's what it matters. On day two, I booted the game up, I went to play Skirmish (which is the gamemode I do worst in) and I kept noticing THAT THERE WAS HEAVY MACHINE GUNNERS EVERYWHERE! If it wasn't Heavy Machine Guns, it was a Forge Gun (which is insanely OP, one-hit kill), and in close range, it was most of the time a Scrambler Rifle (ScR as you call here). I always seem to get 3-5k SP, but the skill I am looking forward to get is 175k SP (which is necessary (sorry if I spelled it wrong) to get the scout suit, so I can be a Ninja). This takes a lot of hours of grinding, something that most times I don't have time to do. I did get the Nova Knives a few days ago, and when I am in close range I am a damn beast. Unless it's a machine gunner. So far, Ambush and Domination seem to be the best gamemodes for me, as well as easy to farm SP/ISK. I also have over a million ISK, which I think that for professional's, it's nearly nothing.
That's about it. It's my opinion so far. If you could give any tips, I would thank you. And that's about it. I will try to reply as much as I can. Get yourself a cloak, a advanced scout and a rail rifle, combat rifle, or SCR. Then slowly work your way up the core skills, ewar skills, and tank little by little. The best advice I can give you is that with maxed core skills you can turn any suit into a monster if your good. Proto suits are overhyped and you will loose money if you aim to "protostomp". It's a tough road ahead of you but with about 10M sp and not wasting your sp you will be okay. The first 3-6 months are rough.
I already got the Cloak skills. Trying to get the scout right now. Rail rifle and combat rifle later. Right now, I can't use cloak because of the PG/CPU. Which is why I need the scout suit. I don't really need ISK though. 10 million SP? HOW?! Right now I'm spending it on the level 3 light suit skill so I can finally get the scout!
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1391
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:44:00 -
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Who's alt is this?
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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CamClarke
Inner.Hell
76
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:47:00 -
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Pretty much what BL4CKST4R said. Be sure to look at your suit's most relevant tanking skills as well. Do not forget to spec into grenades as well - a basic Flux grenade wipes shields and the blast goes through walls for destroying deployed equipment if it's close enough.
Yeah, HMG heavies are an epidemic right now. For the love of god, never approach them from the front, and avoid being seen by them if you can. Forge guns aren't exactly overpowered against infantry though, they're an anti-vehicle weapon that requires charging up and it takes a fair bit of skill to hit a moving infantryman since its projectile has travel time. Sure, there's some people that are super good at nailing those direct hits, but they're low in number and are overall much less deadly to infantry than a heavy with any HMG.
Never stop moving unless you are cloaked or have a good reason while in cover. A sitting target is a headshot victim. This goes double for uncloaked Scouts, triple for one without maxed out core skills, quadruple for one with little FPS experience.
Pick your fights carefully. When possible, always try to go for surprise. Scouts do not have as much HP as the other frames, so going toe to toe is less than ideal. When you do go toe to toe, use your superior strafing speed to throw off your enemy's aim. In extremely close quarters, jumping is actually pretty effective with a Scout because you'll break aim, probably leave their view thanks to Scout jumping height, and they'll have to spin around to find you again if they're not another Scout.
Yeah, the SP grind is rough. Thankfully, you gain 24,000 per day passively on top of whatever you're making actively. Still, I hear you. Even us 40+ million SP vets still have things to grind out, but getting the core skills high/maxed is by far the most arduous thing you'll have to do in Dust. Ambush is considered the best mode for grinding isk/SP because of its fast match turnover. You can do multiple Ambush matches in the time it would take a Skirmish or Domination to finish, getting more SP overall and much more isk since the isk payouts between Ambush, Skirmish, and Domination are all very close.
Once you have a fair bit of isk, consider doing Factional Warfare while you wait for SP. Factional Warfare Loyalty Store equipment all requires fewer ranks in their relevant skill to use, with the exception of the Specialist weapons. It can be a good way to get better gear faster than you normally would, but FW is all Skirmish.
Join a corporation too, there are a few out there specifically for newbies. It helps to have a community of people to talk to, squad with, and ask questions to. Just avoid duna corp, that's just a scam corp that likes to sucker in newbies for isk tax farming. |
ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:48:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:Who's alt is this?
Sorry if I am really new to the game, but what's a alt? Is it alternative character? Or PSN ID? Please clarifiy (I MIGHT have spelled it wrong) this.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:57:00 -
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CamClarke wrote:Pretty much what BL4CKST4R said. Be sure to look at your suit's most relevant tanking skills as well. Do not forget to spec into grenades as well - a basic Flux grenade wipes shields and the blast goes through walls for destroying deployed equipment if it's close enough.
Yeah, HMG heavies are an epidemic right now. For the love of god, never approach them from the front, and avoid being seen by them if you can. Forge guns aren't exactly overpowered against infantry though, they're an anti-vehicle weapon that requires charging up and it takes a fair bit of skill to hit a moving infantryman since its projectile has travel time. Sure, there's some people that are super good at nailing those direct hits, but they're low in number and are overall much less deadly to infantry than a heavy with any HMG.
Never stop moving unless you are cloaked or have a good reason while in cover. A sitting target is a headshot victim. This goes double for uncloaked Scouts, triple for one without maxed out core skills, quadruple for one with little FPS experience.
Pick your fights carefully. When possible, always try to go for surprise. Scouts do not have as much HP as the other frames, so going toe to toe is less than ideal. When you do go toe to toe, use your superior strafing speed to throw off your enemy's aim. In extremely close quarters, jumping is actually pretty effective with a Scout because you'll break aim, probably leave their view thanks to Scout jumping height, and they'll have to spin around to find you again if they're not another Scout.
Yeah, the SP grind is rough. Thankfully, you gain 24,000 per day passively on top of whatever you're making actively. Still, I hear you. Even us 40+ million SP vets still have things to grind out, but getting the core skills high/maxed is by far the most arduous thing you'll have to do in Dust. Ambush is considered the best mode for grinding isk/SP because of its fast match turnover. You can do multiple Ambush matches in the time it would take a Skirmish or Domination to finish, getting more SP overall and much more isk since the isk payouts between Ambush, Skirmish, and Domination are all very close.
Once you have a fair bit of isk, consider doing Factional Warfare while you wait for SP. Factional Warfare Loyalty Store equipment all requires fewer ranks in their relevant skill to use, with the exception of the Specialist weapons. It can be a good way to get better gear faster than you normally would, but FW is all Skirmish.
Join a corporation too, there are a few out there specifically for newbies. It helps to have a community of people to talk to, squad with, and ask questions to. Just avoid duna corp, that's just a scam corp that likes to sucker in newbies for isk tax farming.
I try to not approach them by front, I always try to sneak behind them and Knife them, so they have little to no health, less of a problem. But when they see me, I'm like "MOTHERF**KER! Did he see me...? YEP HE DID, RUN! WHY DID I SIGN UP IN THE FIRST PLACE? *dies* FUUUU"
I always take cover when I really need to. I today was shooting some guys, they shot me a couple of times, but I took cover behind a huge wall, so they couldn't shoot me, not to mention the distance. I ended up living, but they died.
I'm a total ***** when it comes to toe to toe fights, hence why I want the scout suit (I already have the cloak and Nova knives, just that needed). I don't really mind the fights if I have a assault riffle or something.
I really need to find a corporation, if anyone wants me to invite me, feel free to send them.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2224
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:01:00 -
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come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:05:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well
I already know the ways of the Ninja, I just need a scout suit though. How do I join it? I really won't be online for the week. But feel free to teach me the ways through the ancient "Internet".
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Aria Gomes
The New Age Outlaws
449
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:16:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well
R0N1N isn't training anymore...I believe. Since Lightning is gone but there are tons of scouts that were in R0N1N or still on. If you ever wanna squad up OP then msg me in game. I can introduce you to some scouts.
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:19:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well R0N1N isn't training anymore...I believe. Since Lightning is gone but there are tons of scouts that were in R0N1N or still on. If you ever wanna squad up OP then msg me in game. I can introduce you to some scouts.
I saw a guy called R O N 1 N, he kept killing me with a damn forge gun/sniper rifle. Thanks for introducing me to some scouts. But I still need the damn suit.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2479
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:28:00 -
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How about I give a little more constructive advice:
1: Find a corp, and squad up. 2: Dropsuit upgrades are critical. Anything that reduces CPU/PG costs or upgrades the CPU/PG of a dropsuit is CRITICAL. Minimum level should be 3 ASAP. 3: Specialize. Pick a suit class and a weapon, then get that suit, weapon set and your preferred equipment (and your core skills) up quickly as you can. Once you are able to run ADV sets consistently you are in a good spot.
Amarr/Gallente dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All armor skills to 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it.
Caldari dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All Shield skills to 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it.
Minmatar Dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All armor OR shield skills to 5 Recommend Shields Weapon Upgrades 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it. Biotics, Cardiac Regulation and Kinetic catalyzation as high as you want. Minmatar go fasta.
Forge Gun survival tip: Don't stand still. Think of it as an antitank sniper rifle. HMG survival tip: Engage from OUTSIDE 40 meters. The weapons are much less efficient past that, and heavies should be hiding from people outside that range, not engaging. if you can keep a heavy spamming his trigger you can force an overheat, where his gun seizes and jams for about ten seconds. It sucks badly.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2479
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:31:00 -
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well I already know the ways of the Ninja, I just need a scout suit though. How do I join it? I really won't be online for the week. But feel free to teach me the ways through the ancient "Internet".
Ghost means the way of the Minja.
He'll teach you how to creep up on heavies and whisper sweet nothings into their ear while you slit their throats.
Just remember, if they see ya, yer dead. If they don't see ya, they're dead. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
805
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:33:00 -
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Make sure your passive SP is activated on the character you want. I'd actually suggest making an alternate PSN ID and another Dust account on it, leaving your main account for awhile and letting the passive SP do the work (You get around 30K or so SP every 12 hours I believe). Taking this route will allow you to try new things and get used to the game, plus, if you want to rinse and repeat after burning through the starting 500K SP, you can transfer whatever Isk you've got to your main account, thus allowing you to both test things and make Isk.
There really isn't much in the way of advice though that hasn't already been mentioned. Dust is a very slow game, progression wise, and you won't start seeing major improvements before around three to four months of play. I know that sounds horrible, but the game is pretty addicting, and the SP events have been plentiful lately, so it's not all that bad if you actually like the game. I would recommend putting single levels into certain items though. Combat and rail rifles are really good, even at basic level (12SP each). Scout suits are unfortunately a major SP sink, so it's going to take awhile to really get into them. You're probably looking at one of the most SP intensive roles in the game.
What suit are you wanting by the way? You mentioned Nova Knives, so I'd assume Minmatar, but if you've done any forum lurking, you're probably aware that the other suits are generally considered better.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:34:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:How about I give a little more constructive advice:
1: Find a corp, and squad up. 2: Dropsuit upgrades are critical. Anything that reduces CPU/PG costs or upgrades the CPU/PG of a dropsuit is CRITICAL. Minimum level should be 3 ASAP. 3: Specialize. Pick a suit class and a weapon, then get that suit, weapon set and your preferred equipment (and your core skills) up quickly as you can. Once you are able to run ADV sets consistently you are in a good spot.
Amarr/Gallente dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All armor skills to 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it.
Caldari dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All Shield skills to 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it.
Minmatar Dropsuit skill priorities:
Weapon to 5, proficiency 3, all related skills to 3. Dropsuit Electronics and Engineering to 5 as soon as you can bring yourself to grind. All armor OR shield skills to 5 Recommend Shields Weapon Upgrades 5 One or two equipment skills. A sidearm. Grenades to 3. Dropsuit (Assault, scout, sentinel or logistics) to 3-5 depending on how much you love it. Biotics, Cardiac Regulation and Kinetic catalyzation as high as you want. Minmatar go fasta.
Forge Gun survival tip: Don't stand still. Think of it as an antitank sniper rifle. HMG survival tip: Engage from OUTSIDE 40 meters. The weapons are much less efficient past that, and heavies should be hiding from people outside that range, not engaging. if you can keep a heavy spamming his trigger you can force an overheat, where his gun seizes and jams for about ten seconds. It sucks badly.
1. I sometimes squad with a few friends, but it's not a competitive squad, a for fun one. I need to find a corp though, but I already got a few invites as shown above me. 2. I will upgrade them ONCE I get the scout suit. Which will take a while. 3. I want scout, I already have Nova Knives so I can be a Ninja. I also have cloak.
I am a Caldari, so I can see this will be hard as hell... I already have a sidearm though.. so that's a plus. 2 Grenades as well.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Aria Gomes
The New Age Outlaws
449
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:34:00 -
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well R0N1N isn't training anymore...I believe. Since Lightning is gone but there are tons of scouts that were in R0N1N or still on. If you ever wanna squad up OP then msg me in game. I can introduce you to some scouts. I saw a guy called R O N 1 N, he kept killing me with a damn forge gun/sniper rifle. Thanks for introducing me to some scouts. But I still need the damn suit.
You can get scout suits from the loyalty store. If you wanna be a Minmatar scout just play some matches of Minmatar Factional Warfare with a MLT suit and rack up some loyalty points.
You can easily get a basic Minmatar scout. I'm assuming you have points to Minmatar light frame.
But yeah try that to get the suit :) until you have enough SP to get Minmatar Scout
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:39:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well I already know the ways of the Ninja, I just need a scout suit though. How do I join it? I really won't be online for the week. But feel free to teach me the ways through the ancient "Internet". Ghost means the way of the Minja. He'll teach you how to creep up on heavies and whisper sweet nothings into their ear while you slit their throats. Just remember, if they see ya, yer dead. If they don't see ya, they're dead.
I surely hope he meant Minja... It would be stupid to be a N, I prefer M's... Creeping up on heavies is easy... I tell them to not scream before I put a knife in their back. They're dead both ways, because I am one fast f**cker.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Kira Lannister
Go Flux Yourself.
2421
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:40:00 -
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Meow
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:44:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Make sure your passive SP is activated on the character you want. I'd actually suggest making an alternate PSN ID and another Dust account on it, leaving your main account for awhile and letting the passive SP do the work (You get around 30K or so SP every 12 hours I believe). Taking this route will allow you to try new things and get used to the game, plus, if you want to rinse and repeat after burning through the starting 500K SP, you can transfer whatever Isk you've got to your main account, thus allowing you to both test things and make Isk.
There really isn't much in the way of advice though that hasn't already been mentioned. Dust is a very slow game, progression wise, and you won't start seeing major improvements before around three to four months of play. I know that sounds horrible, but the game is pretty addicting, and the SP events have been plentiful lately, so it's not all that bad if you actually like the game. I would recommend putting single levels into certain items though. Combat and rail rifles are really good, even at basic level (12SP each). Scout suits are unfortunately a major SP sink, so it's going to take awhile to really get into them. You're probably looking at one of the most SP intensive roles in the game.
What suit are you wanting by the way? You mentioned Nova Knives, so I'd assume Minmatar, but if you've done any forum lurking, you're probably aware that the other suits are generally considered better.
Suit? Scout. I'm a Caldari right now... but that might change.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3241
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:49:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well Lol scouts united...
Does anyone actually squad there? I only chat there for the lulz most of the time. |
ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:49:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Meow
Okay now, who brought this cat to the warzone? Is this what I must protect from the enemy? Once I find the d-bag that brought this cat, I'll throw the litter box right at his face.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3241
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:50:00 -
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Make sure your passive SP is activated on the character you want. I'd actually suggest making an alternate PSN ID and another Dust account on it, leaving your main account for awhile and letting the passive SP do the work (You get around 30K or so SP every 12 hours I believe). Taking this route will allow you to try new things and get used to the game, plus, if you want to rinse and repeat after burning through the starting 500K SP, you can transfer whatever Isk you've got to your main account, thus allowing you to both test things and make Isk.
There really isn't much in the way of advice though that hasn't already been mentioned. Dust is a very slow game, progression wise, and you won't start seeing major improvements before around three to four months of play. I know that sounds horrible, but the game is pretty addicting, and the SP events have been plentiful lately, so it's not all that bad if you actually like the game. I would recommend putting single levels into certain items though. Combat and rail rifles are really good, even at basic level (12SP each). Scout suits are unfortunately a major SP sink, so it's going to take awhile to really get into them. You're probably looking at one of the most SP intensive roles in the game.
What suit are you wanting by the way? You mentioned Nova Knives, so I'd assume Minmatar, but if you've done any forum lurking, you're probably aware that the other suits are generally considered better. Suit? Scout. I'm a Caldari right now... but that might change. Get Minmatar. It's a fast, weak little fella, but damn if it isn't fun. |
Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Meow
Okay now, who brought this cat to the warzone? Is this what I must protect from the enemy? Once I find the d-bag that brought this cat, I'll throw the litter box right at his face. I blame cat merc.....lost one of his hos....
what i think of when charging fg
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Joel II X wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:come fine newbie, join Onslaught Inc and my fine group of scouts will train you in the ways of the ninja....
or join the "scouts united" chat channel to start
i think theres actually a scout training corp floating around somewhere as well Lol scouts united... Does anyone actually squad there? I only chat there for the lulz most of the time.
THOU SHALL NOT MAKE FUN OF THE SCOUTS UNITED. THE LAST GUY WHO DID, WAS CURSED TO NEVER BE BLOWED AGAIN.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:00:00 -
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Mike De Luca wrote:ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Kira Lannister wrote:Meow
Okay now, who brought this cat to the warzone? Is this what I must protect from the enemy? Once I find the d-bag that brought this cat, I'll throw the litter box right at his face. I blame cat merc.....lost one of his hos....
Now, tell me, WHERE IS HE?! If you say space, you're dead, because I searched the whole space, and I was brought to this bulls**t war.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:05:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Make sure your passive SP is activated on the character you want. I'd actually suggest making an alternate PSN ID and another Dust account on it, leaving your main account for awhile and letting the passive SP do the work (You get around 30K or so SP every 12 hours I believe). Taking this route will allow you to try new things and get used to the game, plus, if you want to rinse and repeat after burning through the starting 500K SP, you can transfer whatever Isk you've got to your main account, thus allowing you to both test things and make Isk.
There really isn't much in the way of advice though that hasn't already been mentioned. Dust is a very slow game, progression wise, and you won't start seeing major improvements before around three to four months of play. I know that sounds horrible, but the game is pretty addicting, and the SP events have been plentiful lately, so it's not all that bad if you actually like the game. I would recommend putting single levels into certain items though. Combat and rail rifles are really good, even at basic level (12SP each). Scout suits are unfortunately a major SP sink, so it's going to take awhile to really get into them. You're probably looking at one of the most SP intensive roles in the game.
What suit are you wanting by the way? You mentioned Nova Knives, so I'd assume Minmatar, but if you've done any forum lurking, you're probably aware that the other suits are generally considered better. Suit? Scout. I'm a Caldari right now... but that might change. Get Minmatar. It's a fast, weak little fella, but damn if it isn't fun.
How do I do that? Is it just get a Minmatar suit? Or I need to make a new character? I'm f**ked if I do.
Dust 514 newbie, never played any FPS games. Started a few days ago. SP is damn hard to get :)
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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ISAAC35 CLARKE98 wrote:I started playing Dust 514 a few days ago, and I have have been actually doing well (if you consider the fact that I NEVER played any FPS game). At first I though it was a Battlefield meets Halo game, and it kinda is, but I enjoyed it, and that's what it matters. On day two, I booted the game up, I went to play Skirmish (which is the gamemode I do worst in) and I kept noticing THAT THERE WAS HEAVY MACHINE GUNNERS EVERYWHERE! If it wasn't Heavy Machine Guns, it was a Forge Gun (which is insanely OP, one-hit kill), and in close range, it was most of the time a Scrambler Rifle (ScR as you call here). I always seem to get 3-5k SP, but the skill I am looking forward to get is 175k SP (which is necessary (sorry if I spelled it wrong) to get the scout suit, so I can be a Ninja). This takes a lot of hours of grinding, something that most times I don't have time to do. I did get the Nova Knives a few days ago, and when I am in close range I am a damn beast. Unless it's a machine gunner. So far, Ambush and Domination seem to be the best gamemodes for me, as well as easy to farm SP/ISK. I also have over a million ISK, which I think that for professional's, it's nearly nothing.
That's about it. It's my opinion so far. If you could give any tips, I would thank you. And that's about it. I will try to reply as much as I can. welcome to the game. soem game modes/maps will have more prefferance for a type of suit then others.. expect scouts and heavys more in tight urban maps and single cap point matches.. where in ambush and multi cap point matches you may see more medium suits i would suggest a few things like getting standard equipment weapon suit and tank first ie..
racial dropsuit type 3 then onto the "profession" of your choice ie.. amarr medium 3 -> amarr assault 1 (easyest suit for a new player to get into dust with due to nice high eHP and fitting slots)
basic core skills are -armor upgrades 1 ->armor plates 1 ->armor rep 1
-shield upgrades 1 -> shield extension 1 (dont bother with shield recharging or regulation till later if your going to shield tank)
-dropsuit core upgrades 2 -> nanocircuitry 1(suggested for injecters[rez+nice war point gain] and hives[ammo, good for keeping yoruself supplied in fights]) this opens up more options for utility and War Point gain aswell as ease of fitting equipment/moduals
weaponry is a little trickier, depends on your playstyle for the "main weapon" which you shoudl try the militia versions to find which you like best/perform best with..
-weaponry 3 -hand held weapon upgrades 1 -light weapon Op 1 to 3 -> weapon of choice + Swarm for anti vehicle -sidearm 2 -> sidearm of choice (SMG or Magsec currently best) -explosives 1 -> grenades 1 as that will open up normal damage , "Flux" and Anti vehicle grenades.
after you have all this you will be rocking a nice standard Medium suit of your racial choice(psst go amarr) and standard gear costs less PG and CPU then militia gear
this all in all this should take maybe 1m SP and like 1.5m to 2.5m isk.
medium suits are the cheapest to get into by maybe 50,000 SP and are somewhat versitile on the battlefield.. once you are settled into a medium suit role you can expand from there into scout suits.. which take heavy sp to be good or Heavysuits "commando" and make use of your swarms and hives and light weapon"rifle" so you can feild both at the same time or dump another 260,000sp into weapon 5 and heavy weapons 1 and HMG1 and go the sentinel route with the slow moveing big gun go ra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta... and then later PRRRRRRRRP...
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:20:00 -
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what do you mean... sort of?
New players have to face suits with over 1000 hp.... with guns that deal upto 30% less dps without dmg mods on either suits. Against guns that deal upto 25% of their suit hp in single bursts (CR) or 1 shot them (SCR, Sniper, forge) or can 5 shot them from 100m (RR). Not to mention their sidearms are pathetic in comparison to ishukone assault smgs. As a result of poor skill implementation they are not only visible, but also blind to enemies approaching, (EWAR)
On top of all this they can't enjoy vehicle roles as their tanks stand no chance (ion cannons, particle cannons, XT missiles, ALL INSTALLATIONS, OP SWARMS + IAFG)
And they can't even learn to ads or ds because of terrifying forgeguns and dead easy to use instakill swarms (SOON tm)
So what can a newb do in dust?
Well they have the special privilege of being meatshields and an easy 50 Wp + another 50 if they get picked up by a dirty needle.
.... Well atleast until they get to around 6 million sp, then they might break 500 wp a game
BTW all new players should put 1 point into uplinks, 2 into nanohives and 1 into repair tools just to get their warpoints going while they dont know how to fight.
NERF SCOUTS, NERF TANKS, NERF AV, NERF ASSAULTS, NERF LOGIS, NERF HEAVIES
nerf life
Delta- bye bye ads, bye bye scr
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