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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati and Logibro,
Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again.
Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest.
*: See: "At all"
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:55:00 -
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INB4 DOOM
Dust Loyalist
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:04:00 -
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I see an elephant in the room it is my Destiny to expose him! Reveal yourself foul heathen!
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:09:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:INB4 DOOM
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "doom". Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down... but let us be real here: Destiny will shrink our playerbase when it comes out. I don't want that and neither does CCP.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Anarchide wrote:INB4 DOOM I wouldn't go so far as to call it "doom". Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down... but let us be real here: Destiny will shrink our playerbase when it comes out. I don't want that and neither does CCP.
Once the ps4 gears get rolling the player base will be sucked into a vortex but if ccp at least releases an alpha of legion by the beginning of next year we can get our gears rolling and if they do a good job the player base will surely grow. Growth = profit.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3237
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:15:00 -
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In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all"
Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:21:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
Ripley Riley wrote:Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down.
And just a quick review of the OP...
Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all"
I did not say that Destiny was going to kill Dust 514. In fact, I know it won't. Destiny isn't F2P and Dust is. That simple fact alone means that Dust will be alive for a long time yet.
If CCP thinks Destiny isn't going to pull some of their paying customers away then they are truly inept. Every $60 USD spent on Destiny is $60 not spent on Dust 514.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:26:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes?
I'd rather play Diablo 3.
Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:27:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
Growing? lolk
"Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. |
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:29:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
On a positive note, hotfix Delta should reduce the amount of ISK a merc starts with to 25,000. That should cut down on biomass-ISK farming. Now... why wasn't that done around 1.0 when players were first reporting it?
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:36:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all" Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes? I'd rather play Diablo 3.
^^ above poster does not no what he is talking about please igonre.
Like really most of thst is out right wrong.
Anyway soya as a point but the failed killers also sucked massively on realse. For reals its bren a bad year for AAA games. HOWEVER destiny does not suck and its competeing on Dust514 home console where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it :-).
Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weeked thats 30 somthing of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of destinys gameplay.
Egro the devs need somthing soild soon or this project is over.
You can never have to many chaples
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:46:00 -
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Esh my phone srambled my ladt post -_-
You can never have to many chaples
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9200
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:48:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
5000 on during peak hours sounds like a major improvement to me especially considering that those are the number of characters online at once (PS3's only allow one log-in at a time). BTW, according to http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust the peak concurrent user reach 4445 users during the 30th of August which is just a few days ago. That's an improvement especially when you see the graphs covering the last 3 months in relation to the prior 6 months. I don't understand why, but the numbers are increasing for some odd reason despite the news about Dust and Legion.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:48:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
That actually has nothing to do with peak concurrent players. As many alts as one creates, they can only be a single player on at a time. Hence, as "concurrent users", they only count as one. We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:09:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. That actually has nothing to do with peak concurrent players. As many alts as one creates, they can only be a single player on at a time. Hence, as "concurrent users", they only count as one. We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
In Chromosome we used to average 5-6k players on at any one time. When we got Uprising we peaked at the current record of 9k and then shortly after we sharply dropped to 2-3k players on at any given time; which slowly worked up to 3-4k players and has been so for almost a year. When we break 6k you can say we have more people playing than we used to. The player base is growing but it's growing as fast as.... something that grows really slow......
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2809
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:15:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
And we can probably thank Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie for that. The hotfixes have been great and I know a few players who have returned to Dust 514 recently when ((insert their preferred weapon or dropsuit here)) got some love. CCP Rattati and Logbro, in the extremely unlikely event that you visit this thread: thank you for these hotfixes.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:34:00 -
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if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:47:00 -
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Destiny is primarily a PVE game. It has PVP yes (and I've seen the videos... it's pvp has some okay things about it, but it already has a laundry list of complaints). It will be a big game, but that's got a lot to do with the Halo draw. Honestly I think you're trying to compare apples to dragons here.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:48:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
Also, got dayum son learn about run-on sentences.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:49:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
Also, got dayum son learn about run-on sentences.
MINA Longstrike wrote:Destiny is primarily a PVE game. It has PVP yes (and I've seen the videos... it's pvp has some okay things about it, but it already has a laundry list of complaints). It will be a big game, but that's got a lot to do with the Halo draw. Honestly I think you're trying to compare apples to dragons here.
PvE is a feature that Dust 514 cannot boast. Even if Destiny's PvP isn't solid, having PvE and PvP is better than only having PvP.
"Apples to dragons" is a new one. I prefer apples to hand grenades myself.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:51:00 -
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My prediction is CCP is holding the breaks on the hype train till after Destiny and possibly even Planetside 2/Division as those are the only competitors even if their plans are to release Legion exclusive to PC..
If we don't hear news of Legion cancelation before fanfest I'm expecting there to be a giant Legion presentation with some kind of Early access/Beta... In till then why would CCP continue to **** on their console player base and release PC legion Info when there is still a group of con-current 4k players still throwing money at them... ?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:02:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:If we don't hear news of Legion cancellation before fanfest I'm expecting there to be a giant Legion presentation with some kind of Early access/Beta... until then why would CCP continue to **** on their console player base and release PC legion info when there is still a group of concurrent 4k players still throwing money at them... ?
I am going to go on the record: waiting to announce more Legion information until fanfest 2015 is a horrible idea. I'm pleading with you here CCP, start talking about Legion before December 2014 please.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:14:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:legion is a lie
I'd love to argue with you on that point, but CCP hasn't told us anything new about Legion in months...
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:16:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. On a positive note, hotfix Delta should reduce the amount of ISK a merc starts with to 25,000. That should cut down on biomass-ISK farming. Now... why wasn't that done around 1.0 when players were first reporting it?
Because CCP doesn't really care. |
Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:17:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all" Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes? I'd rather play Diablo 3. ^^ above poster does not no what he is talking about please igonre. Like really most of thst is out right wrong. Anyway soya as a point but the failed killers also sucked massively on realse. For reals its bren a bad year for AAA games. HOWEVER destiny does not suck and its competeing on Dust514 home console where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it :-). Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weeked thats 30 somthing of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of destinys gameplay. Egro the devs need somthing soild soon or this project is over.
Was that supposed to be English? I stopped reading when my brain wanted to stop functioning. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
767
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:19:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:legion is a lie I'd love to argue with you on that point, but CCP hasn't told us anything new about Legion in months...
my point exactly, legion will end up like wod, while dust blows away in the wind due to ccp inaction and all around bad management and pr |
Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:27:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:^^ above poster does not know what he is talking about please ignore.
Like really most of that is outright wrong.
Anyway Soya has a point but the failed Dust 514 killers also sucked massively. For real, it has been a bad year for AAA games. However, Destiny does not suck and its competing on Dust 514 for PS3 where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it.
Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weekend that's 30 something of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of Destiny's gameplay.
Egro the devs need something solid soon or this project is over.
Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Was that supposed to be English? I stopped reading when my brain wanted to stop functioning
I cleaned it up a bit... wish I could have done more...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:16:00 -
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One thing to note about our current graphs.
They're much fatter than before on the day to day slice.
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