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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:51:00 -
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CCP Rattati and Logibro,
Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again.
Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest.
*: See: "At all"
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:55:00 -
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INB4 DOOM
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:04:00 -
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I see an elephant in the room it is my Destiny to expose him! Reveal yourself foul heathen!
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:09:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:INB4 DOOM
I wouldn't go so far as to call it "doom". Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down... but let us be real here: Destiny will shrink our playerbase when it comes out. I don't want that and neither does CCP.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
2984
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Anarchide wrote:INB4 DOOM I wouldn't go so far as to call it "doom". Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down... but let us be real here: Destiny will shrink our playerbase when it comes out. I don't want that and neither does CCP.
Once the ps4 gears get rolling the player base will be sucked into a vortex but if ccp at least releases an alpha of legion by the beginning of next year we can get our gears rolling and if they do a good job the player base will surely grow. Growth = profit.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3237
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:15:00 -
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In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:17:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all"
Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:21:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
Ripley Riley wrote:Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down.
And just a quick review of the OP...
Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all"
I did not say that Destiny was going to kill Dust 514. In fact, I know it won't. Destiny isn't F2P and Dust is. That simple fact alone means that Dust will be alive for a long time yet.
If CCP thinks Destiny isn't going to pull some of their paying customers away then they are truly inept. Every $60 USD spent on Destiny is $60 not spent on Dust 514.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:26:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes?
I'd rather play Diablo 3.
Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:27:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
Growing? lolk
"Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:29:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
On a positive note, hotfix Delta should reduce the amount of ISK a merc starts with to 25,000. That should cut down on biomass-ISK farming. Now... why wasn't that done around 1.0 when players were first reporting it?
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3286
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:36:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all" Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes? I'd rather play Diablo 3.
^^ above poster does not no what he is talking about please igonre.
Like really most of thst is out right wrong.
Anyway soya as a point but the failed killers also sucked massively on realse. For reals its bren a bad year for AAA games. HOWEVER destiny does not suck and its competeing on Dust514 home console where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it :-).
Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weeked thats 30 somthing of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of destinys gameplay.
Egro the devs need somthing soild soon or this project is over.
You can never have to many chaples
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
3286
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:46:00 -
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Esh my phone srambled my ladt post -_-
You can never have to many chaples
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
9200
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:48:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
5000 on during peak hours sounds like a major improvement to me especially considering that those are the number of characters online at once (PS3's only allow one log-in at a time). BTW, according to http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust the peak concurrent user reach 4445 users during the 30th of August which is just a few days ago. That's an improvement especially when you see the graphs covering the last 3 months in relation to the prior 6 months. I don't understand why, but the numbers are increasing for some odd reason despite the news about Dust and Legion.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
3238
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:48:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
That actually has nothing to do with peak concurrent players. As many alts as one creates, they can only be a single player on at a time. Hence, as "concurrent users", they only count as one. We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1374
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:09:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. That actually has nothing to do with peak concurrent players. As many alts as one creates, they can only be a single player on at a time. Hence, as "concurrent users", they only count as one. We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
In Chromosome we used to average 5-6k players on at any one time. When we got Uprising we peaked at the current record of 9k and then shortly after we sharply dropped to 2-3k players on at any given time; which slowly worked up to 3-4k players and has been so for almost a year. When we break 6k you can say we have more people playing than we used to. The player base is growing but it's growing as fast as.... something that grows really slow......
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2809
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:15:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:We actually have more people playing the game now at the same time than we used to.
And we can probably thank Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie for that. The hotfixes have been great and I know a few players who have returned to Dust 514 recently when ((insert their preferred weapon or dropsuit here)) got some love. CCP Rattati and Logbro, in the extremely unlikely event that you visit this thread: thank you for these hotfixes.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:34:00 -
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if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1238
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:47:00 -
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Destiny is primarily a PVE game. It has PVP yes (and I've seen the videos... it's pvp has some okay things about it, but it already has a laundry list of complaints). It will be a big game, but that's got a lot to do with the Halo draw. Honestly I think you're trying to compare apples to dragons here.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:48:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
Also, got dayum son learn about run-on sentences.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:49:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
Also, got dayum son learn about run-on sentences.
MINA Longstrike wrote:Destiny is primarily a PVE game. It has PVP yes (and I've seen the videos... it's pvp has some okay things about it, but it already has a laundry list of complaints). It will be a big game, but that's got a lot to do with the Halo draw. Honestly I think you're trying to compare apples to dragons here.
PvE is a feature that Dust 514 cannot boast. Even if Destiny's PvP isn't solid, having PvE and PvP is better than only having PvP.
"Apples to dragons" is a new one. I prefer apples to hand grenades myself.
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bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.09.02 15:51:00 -
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My prediction is CCP is holding the breaks on the hype train till after Destiny and possibly even Planetside 2/Division as those are the only competitors even if their plans are to release Legion exclusive to PC..
If we don't hear news of Legion cancelation before fanfest I'm expecting there to be a giant Legion presentation with some kind of Early access/Beta... In till then why would CCP continue to **** on their console player base and release PC legion Info when there is still a group of con-current 4k players still throwing money at them... ?
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:02:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:If we don't hear news of Legion cancellation before fanfest I'm expecting there to be a giant Legion presentation with some kind of Early access/Beta... until then why would CCP continue to **** on their console player base and release PC legion info when there is still a group of concurrent 4k players still throwing money at them... ?
I am going to go on the record: waiting to announce more Legion information until fanfest 2015 is a horrible idea. I'm pleading with you here CCP, start talking about Legion before December 2014 please.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
767
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:14:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:legion is a lie
I'd love to argue with you on that point, but CCP hasn't told us anything new about Legion in months...
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Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:16:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. On a positive note, hotfix Delta should reduce the amount of ISK a merc starts with to 25,000. That should cut down on biomass-ISK farming. Now... why wasn't that done around 1.0 when players were first reporting it?
Because CCP doesn't really care. |
Tardthe GrumpyCat
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:17:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all" Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes? I'd rather play Diablo 3. ^^ above poster does not no what he is talking about please igonre. Like really most of thst is out right wrong. Anyway soya as a point but the failed killers also sucked massively on realse. For reals its bren a bad year for AAA games. HOWEVER destiny does not suck and its competeing on Dust514 home console where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it :-). Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weeked thats 30 somthing of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of destinys gameplay. Egro the devs need somthing soild soon or this project is over.
Was that supposed to be English? I stopped reading when my brain wanted to stop functioning. |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
767
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:19:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:legion is a lie I'd love to argue with you on that point, but CCP hasn't told us anything new about Legion in months...
my point exactly, legion will end up like wod, while dust blows away in the wind due to ccp inaction and all around bad management and pr |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:27:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:^^ above poster does not know what he is talking about please ignore.
Like really most of that is outright wrong.
Anyway Soya has a point but the failed Dust 514 killers also sucked massively. For real, it has been a bad year for AAA games. However, Destiny does not suck and its competing on Dust 514 for PS3 where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it.
Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weekend that's 30 something of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of Destiny's gameplay.
Egro the devs need something solid soon or this project is over.
Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Was that supposed to be English? I stopped reading when my brain wanted to stop functioning
I cleaned it up a bit... wish I could have done more...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16291
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:16:00 -
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One thing to note about our current graphs.
They're much fatter than before on the day to day slice.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:One thing to note about our current graphs.
They're much fatter than before on the day to day slice.
I don't know what this means.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2528
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:19:00 -
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Will we be able to have a pet in Legion?
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2528
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:20:00 -
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*pets Fedo*
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2812
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:26:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Will we be able to have a pet in Legion?
Well it would be RP realistic to keep slaves as an Amarr merc. Gallente could have drones. Caldari will have wageslave assistants. Minmatar will have... what is a good pet that feeds off of rust and failure?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16291
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:28:00 -
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"You are not finished with Destiney until you kicked everyone's ass who has played the game"
-Bungie
... i can say the same thing about any multiplayer shooter.
Game feels like its going to be... 20 hours to end game horror grind (lookin at time shoved in and mundaneness of it all its a horror grind)
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
736
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:29:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all"
dear op.
Destiny was a crappy 50$ BETA-DEMO of which was too small and extremely limited and geared more toward the Filthy Casuals hence destiny will not be much of a contender in the leasts..
CCP as a whole and having been a player of their games for years is more about sustaining the playerbase not just copping out and getting as many Hype purchases as possible in the shortest time before dieing off selling off and going Free 2 play..
now if you still feel the way you do please forward all your isk to me and uninstall dust and do not post on the forums again unless its an "IM BACK" topic outlineing how wrong you were about said game you left dust to play and get bored of very quickly.
[[LogiBro in Training]]
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Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:31:00 -
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Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Growing? lolk "Growing" means having 5000 on during peak hours. Just because a few hundred keep getting made all the time doesn't mean the playerbase is "growing." Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase.
watch what happens when CCP fixes the farming! Talk about bottoming out....... |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
736
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:32:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Will we be able to have a pet in Legion?
1 if your amarr
2 they are called "Slaves"
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2203
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:37:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Anarchide wrote:INB4 DOOM I wouldn't go so far as to call it "doom". Dust 514 is F2P which means it would have to be burned, shot, stabbed, staked through the heart, beheaded, then dissolved in acid to truly put it down... but let us be real here: Destiny will shrink our playerbase when it comes out. I don't want that and neither does CCP.
Lol - got me thinking, Dust is the Rasputin of shooters. And just as smelly.
PSN: RationalSpark
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
732
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:38:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Those are people making characters for the sole purpose of taking all the starting ISK, then biomassing them. That's not "growing" the playerbase. On a positive note, hotfix Delta should reduce the amount of ISK a merc starts with to 25,000. That should cut down on biomass-ISK farming. Now... why wasn't that done around 1.0 when players were first reporting it?
or just going back to giving new players starting skills liek in beta again so they don't need a lot of isk. if they're supplied with a bunch of starter skills and racial items (50 of each) it solves biomassing
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:15:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
With alts? 
Playstyle: Scout, Passionate In-bred Sniper, Support, and Enemy finder
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:29:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dear op,
Destiny was a crappy 50$ BETA-DEMO of which was too small and extremely limited and geared more toward the Filthy Casuals hence destiny will not be much of a contender in the least...
Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will.
Apothecary Za'ki wrote:CCP as a whole and having been a player of their games for years is more about sustaining the playerbase not just copping out and getting as many Hype purchases as possible in the shortest time before dieing off selling off and going Free 2 play...
Dust 514 is already F2P. I don't understand your argument here. CCP is attempting to tap into the large population of FPS gamers' wallets. To do that they will have to accept they are not the biggest fish in this pond. Eve Online has a pretty niche audience so they can afford to be picky there. Not here in MMOFPS-land.
Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Now if you still feel the way you do please forward all your isk to me and uninstall dust and do not post on the forums again unless its an "IM BACK" topic outlining how wrong you were about said game you left dust to play and get bored of very quickly.
Where in my entire post did I say I was quitting? You won't get a single ISK from me and I will post on these forums however many times I like so long as I don't get banned again.
P.S. - The TL;DR of my post was: We haven't heard anything about Legion in a while. CCP, are you still working on it? Destiny could draw some players away. Oh, btw, where is CCP Rogue?
Why would you argue with a post like that?! Are you against them talking about Legion with us? Do you not care when CCP employees promise to talk to us then vanish?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:32:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Dear op,
Destiny was a crappy 50$ BETA-DEMO of which was too small and extremely limited and geared more toward the Filthy Casuals hence destiny will not be much of a contender in the least... Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will. Apothecary Za'ki wrote:CCP as a whole and having been a player of their games for years is more about sustaining the playerbase not just copping out and getting as many Hype purchases as possible in the shortest time before dieing off selling off and going Free 2 play... Dust 514 is already F2P. I don't understand your argument here. CCP is attempting to tap into the large population of FPS gamers' wallets. To do that they will have to accept they are not the biggest fish in this pond. Eve Online has a pretty niche audience so they can afford to be picky there. Not here in MMOFPS-land. Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Now if you still feel the way you do please forward all your isk to me and uninstall dust and do not post on the forums again unless its an "IM BACK" topic outlining how wrong you were about said game you left dust to play and get bored of very quickly. Where in my entire post did I say I was quitting? You won't get a single ISK from me and I will post on these forums however many times I like so long as I don't get banned again. P.S. - The TL;DR of my post was: We haven't heard anything about Legion in a while. CCP, are you still working on it? Destiny could draw some players away. Oh, btw, where is CCP Rogue? Why would you argue with a post like that?! Are you against them talking about Legion with us? Do you not care when CCP employees promise to talk to us then vanish?
Legion is still being worked on; the reasonings for being quiet is that they're quite not ready to share yet. After all it still has its project label status. CPM has urged for increased communication and even a schedule but that can only go so far.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Legion is still being worked on; the reasonings for being quiet is that they're quite not ready to share yet. After all it still has its project label status. CPM has urged for increased communication and even a schedule but that can only go so far.
Well that is something. Thanks for sharing what you can share.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:56:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Legion is still being worked on; the reasonings for being quiet is that they're quite not ready to share yet. After all it still has its project label status. CPM has urged for increased communication and even a schedule but that can only go so far. Well that is something. Thanks for sharing what you can share.
Its annoying I cannot share what I am glad to see so far. However my ultimate judgement (and likely everyone elses) cannot be made until I start getting my hands on it to see if legion is going the right direction.
Meanwhile Dust 514 if you been noticing has been cranking the gears up; I wonder how fast we can get this going. Time will tell.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:58:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its annoying I cannot share what I am glad to see so far. However my ultimate judgement (and likely everyone elses) cannot be made until I start getting my hands on it to see if legion is going the right direction.
Meanwhile Dust 514 if you been noticing has been cranking the gears up; I wonder how fast we can get this going. Time will tell.
Cranking the gears up? Well, the hotfixes have been amazing, but I'm not completely in love with CCP or anything. There seems to be more chatter regarding a possible client update soon(TM). That's pretty interesting.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year.
for those that cant tell this is a troll post :P
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:09:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year. for those that cant tell this is a troll post :P
The fact that it is two gi-goddamn-gantic sentences clued me in.
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Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:56:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year. for those that cant tell this is a troll post :P The fact that it is two gi-goddamn-gantic sentences clued me in.
I thought it was a re-packaged IWS post ;)
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GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
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Posted - 2014.09.02 20:52:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:if the competition is as god awful as it's beta was in terms of fun and replayability it can't even hold a candle to Defiance which is also not that great of a game but way better than destiny who is just a ripoff of borderlands and defiance with some added fluff only the simple minded could enjoy the glorified menu screens which defiance doesn't even really need since it's a large scale persistent map vs a shoe box with a glorified loading screen to make you think you are flying in space. what a joke and it will end up being sold for $6 or free to play on store in under a year. Ripley Riley wrote:Regardless of if you personally consider it direct competition or not, the gaming "general audience" will. Also, got dayum son learn about run-on sentences.
when/if you finally have the luxury of typing from an ivory tower such as mine you can not be trifled by such things that peasants must use to understand each other and decipher the writing of us gods who have no use for such things as putting a silly dot so the peasant knows when to pause being that he cannot do such things without being told to
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2079
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
Pollyanna Syndrome much?
Aside those other games did strip away players. When Skyrim went on sale with all the extras for $40s I started playing that more than Dust 514.
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:01:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Pollyanna Syndrome much? Aside those other games did strip away players. When Skyrim went on sale with all the extras for $40s I started playing that more than Dust 514.
What type of character did you make?
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:19:00 -
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Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Pollyanna Syndrome much? Aside those other games did strip away players. When Skyrim went on sale with all the extras for $40s I started playing that more than Dust 514. What type of character did you make?
Altemer, a few Imperials, a few Brentons. Usually deleted after exploring a different approach to the storylines. Thinking of trying out one of the cat people next.
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:23:00 -
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Don't get me wrong I will get Destiny when it comes out and will still play DUST514 time to time. But people, what truly kills a game is time and the community. Time is a good factor. Compared to games like COD since one comes out each year, there are people still playing MW2 online and it is still going on with no support, Borderlands 2 is still going on with no further support (despite the fact that a new Borderlands game is coming out SoonGäó), hell even Kingdom Hearts is still going with barely mentioning KH3 last E3.
The games I have seen that died due to time is Half-Life 2 since people stopped waiting for another addition, Need For Speed since EA strayed away from a system that worked back then and did not please the new generation, or even better (serving as a double advocate) EVERY FIRST PERSON SHOOTER AFTER 2006 BUT YET WE BUT THEM BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER!!! This is due to the wheel not being reinvented but we kind of see in DUST514, HALO when it first came out before Bungie bailed on 4, and the new upcoming Destiny game with it's own re-inventing of the wheel.
And yes we the community kill the game with constant negative feedback and/or whining about the game. For example CCP does (can not believe I'm defending them) goes through a lot a crap when it comes to pleasing the community. best example is people crying that this weapon is Over Powered or my all time favorite He shouldn't be able to kill my suit with that gun. Constant whining and/or negative feedback = the developers will not hear you out especially cussing them out (I had my fair share of that). We as a community are too narcissistic to see how the changes we provide would affect others but also fail understand that there is no pleasing everyone unless there is a middle ground. And trust me when i say almost no one want to meet midway.
CCP developers are fully aware of the situation but they do need to do something to keep the retention rate high with the new players to the game and to the vets of the game. My suggestion to the community, stop playing seriously. By that I mean stop doing FOTM gear settings and try out a new fit every so often like one new fit a week or something. I bet if you do that the game would be a bit more fun than being serious. Hell I'm trying to think of fun fits when I catch myself being too serious. Keep trying to play serious to keep up with the FOTM, you will find the game getting boring quickly over time.
My $0.02. in the mix. That is all
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:24:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing.
To be really fair, CCP didn't need any help with how they managed Dust up until a full year after full release.
Putting Rattati in charge was the only good thing they have done. The rest is all on him and Logibro.
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.02 23:45:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Tardthe GrumpyCat wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP Rattati and Logibro, Some direct competition to Dust 514 is coming out in a week. NOW would be the time to tell us more about Legion. You are not going to win the hype-war, but you can reassure your current playerbase that Legion is still relevant and moving forward. If you can't get screenshots or developer interviews then start posting more actively in the Legion General Discussion again. Also... is CCP Rouge still with you? We haven't heard much* from him since his damage control posts post-fanfest. *: See: "At all" Direct competition? You mean a game you need to buy a new system for for it to be fancy and pretty? Something that only has 22 missions, a squad of 3, and "events" where you find other people to kill things with for 5-10 minutes? I'd rather play Diablo 3. ^^ above poster does not no what he is talking about please igonre. Like really most of thst is out right wrong. Anyway soya as a point but the failed killers also sucked massively on realse. For reals its bren a bad year for AAA games. HOWEVER destiny does not suck and its competeing on Dust514 home console where it looks better runs better and has a lot of content in it :-). Sadly this one will hurt, during beta my friends list that is mostly players where all playing destiny the whole weeked thats 30 somthing of the dust players dropped it in mere moments for 10% of destinys gameplay. Egro the devs need somthing soild soon or this project is over.
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
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Posted - 2014.09.03 00:29:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Sclompton Face-Smasher wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:In fairness, this is only the fifth game I've heard will "totally kill" DUST when it releases, and DUST's playerbase is still growing. Pollyanna Syndrome much? Aside those other games did strip away players. When Skyrim went on sale with all the extras for $40s I started playing that more than Dust 514. What type of character did you make? Altemer, a few Imperials, a few Brentons. Usually deleted after exploring a different approach to the storylines. Thinking of trying out one of the cat people next.
I'm a Kitty assassin that uses illusion and conjuration with my trusty Daegric dagger! 
Khajit reallt fills its role as a thief too!!
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