Dear Rattati, just check this 3min video evidence:

1. 0:07 Mark jump point.
2. 0:40 Making ordinary jump, mark landing point.
3. 1:30 Making sustained* jump, mark landing point.
4. 1:42 The difference between ordinary and sustained jump is 3 meters.
5. 2:30 Making sustained jump, throw RE in the top of the jump trajectory.
6. 2:50 Mark the point of bomb landing - throw distance is 10 meters.

We did this with 20k ISK worth suit. You are able to deal 1500 HP damage without any harm for yourself.
Although when creating this video a Cloaking Device was not used, it is present in fit.
Using Cloaking Device before jump gives you the ability to accomplish the same thing as invisible.

The same effect can be achieved with: Plasma Cannon, Shotgun, Macro Tactical Scrambler

We require:

1. The delay after decloaking when you can't use any equipment/weapons.
2. The delay after throwing RE when you can't detonate it.
3. REs should make the warning sound as grenades.

*Sustained jump - just press BACK button in the top of the jump trajectory.

Solution: move to the right or left
No changes needed here, move along everyone.

1. The delay is relatively present, though switching to weapons is fast enough that you can fire before the cloak finishes the decloak animation, whereas with equipment, REs particularly, you need to pull them out then throw them.

2. This is already present in the game. If an enemy is detonating an RE quickly after tossing, then it is an F/45 or a Boundless; ie, a higher level investment which brings the benefit of having shorter activation delay.

3. They do. When deployed they make a beep.

You concerns are already addressed for the most part.

test it with a stopwatch when you throw an re and blow it.

I agree with the OP's first two suggestions. RE's should never have become super grenades, but they should not make any sound because their purpose should be as sneaky guardians.

m8, i mean RE must have beep sound during deployment, not before activation.

I'm sick of shotgunning, RE spamming scouts.

I'm sick of having to BE a shotgunning, RE spamming scout just to compete.



Go to hell.

The beep on the RE is awfully similar to someone placing equipment.. One may think it's just a friendly placing a hive, but it's actually a scout who launched the RE from a distance... Even when we do realize and try to run... It's just boom and "killed by" screen.

I think giving different equipment different deployment beeps solves 1 problem.

Can I have my own special beep when I'm in game? That way John Psi will know when its time to **** his pants

REs still have 3 sec delay.

No, its 5 now.

Uncounterable heavies continue to be buffed, but is that not enough for you?

RE's are more than fine right now, I really think you need to get good.

What is interesting is that even if they did not add the 5 second delay yet claim they did, the majority of complaining about REs stopped. It makes you wonder if it was just mass hysteria.

CCP Rattati is someone you hold dear? Don't use dear someone unless someone is dear to you. Try hello someone instead.

Edit: A in video explanation would have been nice.

It makes you wonder about that FOTMers is not so stupid as it may seem: scouts was used less after information about 5 seconds delay for REs.

scouts are used less because of scan profile changes

And, yet, regardless the reason, if scouts are used less, that would lead to REs being used less, which would then reasonably lead to people complainging about them being used less... Which would still have little to do with the actual performance of the REs themselves.

No, check this video (sry 4 quality, smartphone camera)

1. Boundless packet RE.
2. Boundless RE.

Random results:

1. throw Boundless packet RE (0:53 on video 0.22 on timer), blast after 2,5 sec (0:55 on video, 0.24,5 on timer)
2. throw Boundless RE (1:28 on video 0:57 on timer), blast less than 2 sec!!! (1:30 on video, 0:58,8 on timer)

So your complaint is that the PROTO variant can detonate before 3 secs? THEY'RE FREAKING PROTO of course they should! just be happy it's not a 0.5 second delay

NO.