DUST Search - How do we fix melee mods?

Cody Sietz wrote:

Increase the dmg?

Move them to the low?

Make them a high/low slot?

Reduce fitting cost?

Make them give you more stamina as well?

Get rid of them and boost everyone's melee dmg?

Edit:Sgt Kirk had the idea to boost jump height depending on suit.

Mauren Monn had a idea to have them boost speed by 3/4/5 percent, but I think that could be a problem if they remain in the high slot simply because of the speed glitch ing we had awhile back. Still a good suggestion though!

Sum1ne Else had the idea to make them 3x times stronger while giving them a 100 percent stacking penalty.

Edit again: Cat Merc had this to say about adding stamina regain

Cat Merc wrote:

I would make them give a stamina regeneration bonus in addition to the melee damage.

Melee is heavily reliant on stamina, and since you wasted it on sprinting to get close to the target, you don't have any stamina to actually melee the guy.

Pardon to interrupt!

Okay, while I do like Cat Man's approach because I do find myself having to throw on a Complex Cardio to make some of my melee based suits to work, I don't believe we should stop there because melee hit detection BLOWS. ABSOLUTELY and UTTERLY you can easily get the sound byte of your fist hiting the CLONES face but NO DAMAGE will me done. ESPECIALLY ON SCOUTS ( Do research on Calamari Scout Spacial-Rift Algorithym for info)

Cloaked scouts aren't as hurt by it since they can come close by being undetected, but any other suit trying to use melee needs that stamina.

NOT ONLY CLOAKED SCOUTS AS CLOAKS ARE NEARLY UNNESSESSARY TO SCOUTS SINCE THEIR PASSIVE DAMPENING AND PASSIVE SCAN CAN EASILY AIDE A SCOUT TO CHOOSE WHAT EVER BATTLE IT WANTS.

A 50% bonus to stamina regen (instead of 100/100 to amount and regen in normal stam mods) seems fair.

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Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3955	Posted - 2014.09.02 14:57:00 - [31] - Quote Bump "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Sum1ne Else Fatal Absolution 1395	Posted - 2014.09.02 15:16:00 - [32] - Quote You make melee mods 3x stronger but have 100% stacking penalty. This would allow little sacrifice, for a potential rewarding kill, yet not allowing it to be abused! Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m *Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0*
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3958	Posted - 2014.09.02 15:21:00 - [33] - Quote Sum1ne Else wrote: You make melee mods 3x stronger but have 100% stacking penalty. This would allow little sacrifice, for a potential rewarding kill, yet not allowing it to be abused! Imma add that to the first page. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11937	Posted - 2014.09.02 15:22:00 - [34] - Quote I would make them give a stamina regeneration bonus in addition to the melee damage. Melee is heavily reliant on stamina, and since you wasted it on sprinting to get close to the target, you don't have any stamina to actually melee the guy. Cloaked scouts aren't as hurt by it since they can come close by being undetected, but any other suit trying to use melee needs that stamina. A 50% bonus to stamina regen (instead of 100/100 to amount and regen in normal stam mods) seems fair. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 767	Posted - 2014.09.02 16:28:00 - [35] - Quote all they need to do is work with the nova knives, its stupid they dont.
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 467	Posted - 2014.09.02 23:50:00 - [36] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Delete em They're already in the store so it would be much more interesting to turn them into something completely different. I'm thinking the reactive plating of biotics. Something that would boost stamina and speed. For example: STD: +10% stamina, +20% stamina regen, +3% sprint ADV: +20% stamina, +40% stamina regen, +5% sprint CPX: +50% stamina, +50% stamina regen, +7% sprint OR something that would increase base movement speed! STD: +2% movement speed ADV: +4% movement speed CPX: +6% movement speed
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3971	Posted - 2014.09.03 17:22:00 - [37] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: I would make them give a stamina regeneration bonus in addition to the melee damage. Melee is heavily reliant on stamina, and since you wasted it on sprinting to get close to the target, you don't have any stamina to actually melee the guy. Cloaked scouts aren't as hurt by it since they can come close by being undetected, but any other suit trying to use melee needs that stamina. A 50% bonus to stamina regen (instead of 100/100 to amount and regen in normal stam mods) seems fair. Yes, this is what I was leaning to as well. Stamina tanking isn't or at least shouldn't be much of a problem. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 294	Posted - 2014.09.03 19:52:00 - [38] - Quote Myofib mods used to give a passive increase to melee strikes in addition to the bonus from actually equipping the mod. CCP could bring that back. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 188	Posted - 2014.09.03 21:37:00 - [39] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Increase the dmg? Move them to the low? Make them a high/low slot? Reduce fitting cost? Make them give you more stamina as well? Get rid of them and boost everyone's melee dmg? Edit:Sgt Kirk had the idea to boost jump height depending on suit. Mauren Monn had a idea to have them boost speed by 3/4/5 percent, but I think that could be a problem if they remain in the high slot simply because of the speed glitch ing we had awhile back. Still a good suggestion though! Sum1ne Else had the idea to make them 3x times stronger while giving them a 100 percent stacking penalty. Edit again: Cat Merc had this to say about adding stamina regain Cat Merc wrote: I would make them give a stamina regeneration bonus in addition to the melee damage. Melee is heavily reliant on stamina, and since you wasted it on sprinting to get close to the target, you don't have any stamina to actually melee the guy. Pardon to interrupt! Okay, while I do like Cat Man's approach because I do find myself having to throw on a Complex Cardio to make some of my melee based suits to work, I don't believe we should stop there because melee hit detection BLOWS. ABSOLUTELY and UTTERLY you can easily get the sound byte of your fist hiting the CLONES face but NO DAMAGE will me done. ESPECIALLY ON SCOUTS ( Do research on Calamari Scout Spacial-Rift Algorithym for info) Cloaked scouts aren't as hurt by it since they can come close by being undetected, but any other suit trying to use melee needs that stamina. NOT ONLY CLOAKED SCOUTS AS CLOAKS ARE NEARLY UNNESSESSARY TO SCOUTS SINCE THEIR PASSIVE DAMPENING AND PASSIVE SCAN CAN EASILY AIDE A SCOUT TO CHOOSE WHAT EVER BATTLE IT WANTS. A 50% bonus to stamina regen (instead of 100/100 to amount and regen in normal stam mods) seems fair. Okay lets implement that ADHESION they put on the NOVA KNIVES and put it on to eaither the MOD ITSELF or on EVERYONES FISTS. Thank you and lets talk about it. You know it makes sense ^_^ FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X
Cody Sietz Evzones Public.Disorder. 3977	Posted - 2014.09.04 04:58:00 - [40] - Quote ^im not sure what you mean...I'm sorry? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire



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