i always thought it was bullshit that punishing them doesn't ever accomplish anything

does it? im not familiar with the technical ****

@ adamence

and what have you done for the amarr besides ***** on the forums and give us all a bad name.

come back when you actually play the game, until then get a life instead of wasting it here on the forums.

I read what you said, and if you *had* let him kill you, he would have gotten banned. What would it have cost you really? Maybe one proto suit the first time you die? No instead lets come to the forums to whine and cry about how you got kicked from facwar because you couldn't ignore a blueberry. Then when people tell you what the actual option you should have taken was, lets throw a giant ****ing tantrum.

You got kicked through your own fault. You have no sympathy from me. You killed him SEVEN OR EIGHT TIMES, that's not an accident that is a conscious decision. You remind me of that idiot I ran into in amarr FW who got kicked because he was shooting a friendly tank and then he raged and bitched and screamed over comms about how stupid it was for him to get kickbanned and lose standings because he *chose* to repeatedly attack a friendly vehicle.

If a blue/green dot won't stop shooting you, i highly suggest you take an STD/MLT shotgun and STD/MLT nanite injector. Kill and revive him until he leaves the match.

Problem solved and you won't get kicked or lose standings.

Bonus! Even with increasing nanite injectors to adding shield HP back, unless they're using a Sentinel suit you'll still have enough fire power to kill them after the revive.

@ adamence

and what have you done for the amarr besides ***** on the forums and give us all a bad name.

come back when you actually play the game, until then get a life instead of wasting it here on the forums.

4 punished kills or 5000 damage to player entities will get you kicked from FW.

I read what you said, and if you *had* let him kill you, he would have gotten banned. What would it have cost you really? Maybe one proto suit the first time you die? No instead lets come to the forums to whine and cry about how you got kicked from facwar because you couldn't ignore a blueberry. Then when people tell you what the actual option you should have taken was, lets throw a giant ****ing tantrum.

You got kicked through your own fault. You have no sympathy from me. You killed him SEVEN OR EIGHT TIMES, that's not an accident that is a conscious decision. You remind me of that idiot I ran into in amarr FW who got kicked because he was shooting a friendly tank and then he raged and bitched and screamed over comms about how stupid it was for him to get kickbanned and lose standings because he *chose* to repeatedly attack a friendly vehicle.

this is not true i was repeatedly teamkilled by some russian yesterday which i punished everytime and he was nevr removed from the battle and i punished him about 5-6 times. the system is broken

dude shut the **** up

We would all kill a team killer because it pisses us off, ruins our KD and we have to keep respawning. He had perfect reason to do so and they other player should have been banned first as he was the first to initiate the kill. Technically speaking if the teamkiller killed the author 8 times, the author has killed the teamkiller 7 times so the teamkiller should be banned before the author; Reason why this guy is angry, it wasn't him that banned himself but the system screwing itself over and under

I totally agree that what you predict is what will happen. Unlike you though I like the freedom it gives players. Player driven solutions to player created problems are always going to result in more interesting game play than solutions generated and implemented by developers. This is the whole basis of sandbox gaming and a great way for CCP to actually make a step towards dust as a sandy box.

Notice I never said it would help your team win. It wouldn't. I'd never claim that being able to freely kill team players would do so. I simply believe that it would be a more fitting punishment for team killers than a 24 hr. ban and it would be a hell of a lot more fun. The beauty of such a scheme is that if you want to ignore the team killer it would be your choice while I would be able to kill him repeatedly for the rest of the game thus creating a true disincentive for him to troll me. Choice and options are what make sandbox game play interesting.

Honestly, I'm actually surprised that a person as in love with EvE as you would be opposed to making Dust more EvE like.

Just because I like eve doesn't mean I think things should be ported from it to dust where they might be inappropriate, there is no concord / criminal status in dust because there's no reason to have them. As far as things go, teamkilling in facwar in dust is already handled in a manner like it is in eve - you lose standings and security status for killing allies in facwar, in eve it's a bit harder to friendly fire lethally so there's a small bit of leeway given to dust players where it can be pretty easy to perform lethal friendly damage.

something interesting happened today, i was hacking an objective and a blue dot named ignus or something shotgunned me to steal the hack in angry response i respawned and killed him, well afterwords every time he would see me would try* to kill me and i would have* to kill him.

After killing him 7 to 8 times i got kicked and banned which in all honesty is bullshit, i'm not mad cause my standing went down cause i'm lvl 10 cal (or was), the reason i'm mad is because the system in place is utter crap.

my suggestion to remedy this problem is once someone has teamkilled (accident or not and in this case was no accident) they can be team killed by the victim w/o penalty.

i understand it is "high risk" playing factional but i find it a wee bit unfair that i'm not allowed to defend myself.

@ mina

I have already stated that we have two differing opinions that the other will not be able to dissaude, why do you persist? you have already stated your thoughts on the subject so let it go. is it that you find yourself inferior and seek the approval of others if so i feel sorry for you or is it your life has been such a void that you need this small victory to fill the holes.

@ adamance

your past accomplishments doesn't mean nothing if you don't stick around to see them to fruition, i actually have a lot of respect for you, but the fact that you try to change what you are no longer involved in causes me to lose that respect.

If any blue tags see this i would request that you lock this topic because it is obvious nothing constructive will come from it.

The issue with it is that no matter how you slice it the OP TKed someone. It doesn't matter if that person killed you, YOU still killed one of your fellow team mates.

This is basically a case of Elementary School bullying,
Jimmy hits Bobby, Jimmy gets in trouble. Bobby hits Jimmy the next day, Bobby gets in trouble. Jimmy keeps harassing Bobby without getting caught, Bobby keeps getting caught hitting Jimmy. Bobby gets expelled from school and eventually becomes a drug-addict homeless. Jimmy on the other hand becomes a multimillionaire playboy, knowing that he ruined Bobby because he was smarter.

OP=Bobby...