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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1074
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:26:00 -
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Most AV'ers will tell you tjis is the most broken mechanic left in the game. Tankers with HMG's jumping out and back on to the tank instantaneously, pilots escaping every death with a simple push of a button. Anyone who looks at it objectively will see that it gives two lives to one person and is unfair. Rattati has said adding exit animation can't be done, so what action can be added or change made to fix this? Could we just add a timer from the time they exit until they can fire a weapon, like cloaks (should) have? Is there a way to use the equipment dial to function as the exit animation? Any ideas?
Because, that's why.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
737
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:28:00 -
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Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths?
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Atiim
11728
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:31:00 -
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Someone from a thread awhile back suggested that we should force a reload animation after exiting a vehicle .
I'm not sure if that's possible, but it does seem practical.
DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5894
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:32:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Read.
And I support this thread. Also kindof idiotic when people are asking for perma-locks on vehicles now, so their teammates to grab their HAV while they jump out to hack because they didn't carry a gunner to do that.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1076
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Posted - 2014.08.30 19:37:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths?
Yes. Thank you for offering. I don't expect you to do that, I expect that you shouldn't have any choice in the matter.
Because, that's why.
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn
Going for the gold
112
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:12:00 -
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"pilots escaping every death with a simple push of a button."
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Tell me, if you were a pilot in real life, wouldn't you jump out of a falling plane aswell?
32 kills with militia shotgun. OP? naaaaaah
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2569
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:15:00 -
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote:"pilots escaping every death with a simple push of a button."
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Tell me, if you were a pilot in real life, wouldn't you jump out of a falling plane aswell? If I were an immortal combatant after an easy kill, yes.
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Red line snipers and tankers hate it.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
1081
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:24:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths?
Yes it's ******* bullshit all that hard work doesn't even earn us a kill.
And CCP is never going to fix what's REALLY wrong with Dust.
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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MrShooter01
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
696
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:29:00 -
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Well hey, 80% of the time the pilot jumps out of an out of control dropship they immediately get run over by it anyways
maybe they can just change it so we get kill credit or a kill assist when that happens, like people who die from fall damage after you shoot them |
ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
800
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:29:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Most AV'ers will tell you tjis is the most broken mechanic left in the game. Tankers with HMG's jumping out and back on to the tank instantaneously, pilots escaping every death with a simple push of a button. Anyone who looks at it objectively will see that it gives two lives to one person and is unfair. Rattati has said adding exit animation can't be done, so what action can be added or change made to fix this? Could we just add a timer from the time they exit until they can fire a weapon, like cloaks (should) have? Is there a way to use the equipment dial to function as the exit animation? Any ideas?
I'll hold my tongue on hating on it because my AV game would be screwed without it. But some advice on how to deal with them, carry REs.
Learn how to toss one into the cockpit when it's coming by. If you can get one inside, either blow it while he's still in or wait until he gets back in and driving around again (even if it's on next death). Eject his ass
Use his vehicle for cover.. They will always exit on the drivers side, try to move around it as best you can avoiding his line of fire. Learn to press the Hack Button with your trigger finger instead of your thumb so you can circle his vehicle while hacking.
If he's out, plant one RE on the drivers side door. Wait for him to get back in. Eject.
The hard counter is to become the hunter. Get your own LAV as a minmando with swarm and CR. You have a weapon that has superior range to counter him outside the vehicle, swarm for when he's in, LAV to chase him down.
If you are medium or below, make sure you are below 35 db (vehicle scanner)
Used your ears and Stamina to your advantage, try not to get caught out in the open. When dodging, jump sparingly.
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Keeriam Miray
R 0 N 1 N
328
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:50:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Well hey, 80% of the time the pilot jumps out of an out of control dropship they immediately get run over by it anyways maybe they can just change it so we get kill credit or a kill assist when that happens, like people who die from fall damage after you shoot them
it's actually works exactly like that, if you "kill" dropship you will get +50 for every person that was inside or "ejected" & killed by it's own dropship
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ImIvan
25
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Posted - 2014.08.30 20:50:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Did you even read the post...? He just said it should take longer to get out of a vehicle, not impossible -.-
Why must you use prototypes?
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:23:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? I would very much love that it would give you fags a reason to not run proto so when you get shot down you cant just jump out and murder people. A good capitan never leaves their ship never. There shoild be a punnishment for leaving your vehicle while its under 500 health.
Why?
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1453
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:28:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? I would very much love that it would give you fags a reason to not run proto so when you get shot down you cant just jump out and murder people. A good capitan never leaves their ship never. There shoild be a punnishment for leaving your vehicle while its under 500 health.
...if there are still people onboard dumbass. You don't plummet to your death when you're the only one there. A fighter pilot doesn't just sit in the cockpit waiting to die, do they?
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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Joel II X
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3225
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Posted - 2014.08.30 21:54:00 -
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TOOMANY NAMES ALREADYTAKEn wrote:"pilots escaping every death with a simple push of a button."
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Tell me, if you were a pilot in real life, wouldn't you jump out of a falling plane aswell? I would love to teleport out of a ship that's on fire if I had safety measures.
Of course, that only happens as a broken, and unfinished mechanic in Dust 514. |
Death Shadow117
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
333
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:01:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? I would very much love that it would give you fags a reason to not run proto so when you get shot down you cant just jump out and murder people. A good capitan never leaves their ship never. There shoild be a punnishment for leaving your vehicle while its under 500 health. ...if there are still people onboard dumbass. You don't plummet to your death when you're the only one there. A fighter pilot doesn't just sit in the cockpit waiting to die, do they? Oh, but wait, its the guy who hid in his redline with a railtank who posed no threat to anyone calling people fags. Yea, I made a tactical mistake earlier, but you couldn't shoot me down if I sat in front of you. Also, aren't you the guy who abandoned his dropship, not once, but twice in the same match. She was bleeding on a tower and you let her die and made me roadkill you, then you hopped right out by Delta when your next dropship started bleeding.. My Heavy had to proceed to hunt you down and kill you. Hey pot, be careful who you're calling names here. Firsg time i got out i was going to place uplinks i didnt even noticw you until i turned around and it was on fire then you got greedy and took like 2 minutes trying to.run me over dont remember the second time. Second i said real capitans not adsers when.you killed yourself what did you do? Anyway when i.was in my tank you were flying above me so i couldnt hit you after yoi died i.proceeded to blow up yoir teams tanks. So i guess you are opposed to havinv to stay in your burning vehicle seeing aa thats what you already do. Lasty who named your character a 5 year old?
Why?
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public.Disorder.
6333
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Posted - 2014.08.30 22:03:00 -
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Animations would be nice....
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Zindorak
1.U.P
746
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:13:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? I would very much love that it would give you fags a reason to not run proto so when you get shot down you cant just jump out and murder people. A good capitan never leaves their ship never. There shoild be a punnishment for leaving your vehicle while its under 500 health. I don't even run Proto if i plan on ADS'ing i will alway use Frontline as i don't want to pay another 50k + if i crash and die
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens
82
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:18:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths?
Can you write a suicide note while your falling from the sky while your at it? |
Zindorak
1.U.P
747
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:22:00 -
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Cogadh Draco wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Can you write a suicide note while your falling from the sky while your at it? No thanks
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Michael Arck
5319
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:23:00 -
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I've heard this complaint before. I don't see the big deal. And its happened to me before. I usually call em a sneaky ************ or something and move on to the next plan of action.
Should we also have people who run into cover pause a second for you to complete the kill as well? If that shouldn't work there, then we shouldn't be discussing this topic.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Zindorak
1.U.P
747
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Posted - 2014.08.31 00:24:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I've heard this complaint before. I don't see the big deal. And its happened to me before. I usually call em a sneaky ************ or something and move on to the next plan of action.
Should we also have people who run into cover pause a second for you to complete the kill as well? If that shouldn't work there, then we shouldn't be discussing this topic. ^
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
364
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:28:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? As a pilot I would really like dropships to just damnwell explode on 0 hp... Just so I can become a sky Jihad... Or continue where I left off that one time I actually managed to bounce onto a tank and take it out, lol.
Michael Arck wrote:I've heard this complaint before. I don't see the big deal. And its happened to me before. I usually call em a sneaky ************ or something and move on to the next plan of action.
Should we also have people who run into cover pause a second for you to complete the kill as well? If that shouldn't work there, then we shouldn't be discussing this topic.
I find against heavys jumping out of jeeps, you can just shoot them a bit, then as they start running back (& you reload) aim at the drivers seat before they get in, pop pop pop headshots deal good damage... If you're too lazy to av the jeep that is. |
Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS Top Men.
2697
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:30:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Most AV'ers will tell you tjis is the most broken mechanic left in the game. Bullshit is bullshit
DS ramming bro, DS ramming
Roles mastered- HAV/ADS/LDS/Forum Lord/Working on Assault
Pinned down? Let my tank scatter enemies for you v(^_^)v
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
364
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:33:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Most AV'ers will tell you tjis is the most broken mechanic left in the game. Bullshit is bullshit DS ramming bro, DS ramming
ramming is fine, just dodge or brick tank a Bus and laugh as the gorgon explodes. |
Cody Sietz
Evzones Public.Disorder.
3925
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Posted - 2014.08.31 01:35:00 -
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The reload animation thing works for me. Tired of sentinels/CalScouta hoping out of their tank just before I kill it, now me down, then injector themselves back into the redline.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1089
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:33:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I've heard this complaint before. I don't see the big deal. And its happened to me before. I usually call em a sneaky ************ or something and move on to the next plan of action.
Should we also have people who run into cover pause a second for you to complete the kill as well? If that shouldn't work there, then we shouldn't be discussing this topic.
I guess you shouldn't. You make a false analogy. A player in a dropsuit only has their dropsuit, a player in a vehicle has all the advantages that vehicle conveys, more speed, unlimited stamina, high HP, high damage, immunity (or near immunity) from small arms, etc. These advantages come with some disadvantages which balance the advantages, being able to jump in and out allows the pilot to have the advantages of the vehicle with none of the disadvantages. They also get essentially two lives for the price of one. This is inherently unfair.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1089
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:35:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:Nothing Certain wrote:Most AV'ers will tell you tjis is the most broken mechanic left in the game. Bullshit is bullshit DS ramming bro, DS ramming
AV'ers won't tell you that but Python collision damage needs fixing.
Because, that's why.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2062
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Someone from a thread awhile back suggested that we should force a reload animation after exiting a vehicle .
I'm not sure if that's possible, but it does seem practical. Never going to happen unless all weapons get the same or very similar reload times.
A less than visually fun option would be to have entering-and-exiting use a hacking wheel. Include it on the changing of seats to be fair.
I'm still for having access-points as well.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
656
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:50:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Yes.
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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