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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:51:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I've heard this complaint before. I don't see the big deal. And its happened to me before. I usually call em a sneaky ************ or something and move on to the next plan of action.
Should we also have people who run into cover pause a second for you to complete the kill as well? If that shouldn't work there, then we shouldn't be discussing this topic. I guess you shouldn't. You make a false analogy. A player in a dropsuit only has their dropsuit, a player in a vehicle has all the advantages that vehicle conveys, more speed, unlimited stamina, high HP, high damage, immunity (or near immunity) from small arms, etc. These advantages come with some disadvantages which balance the advantages, being able to jump in and out allows the pilot to have the advantages of the vehicle with none of the disadvantages. They also get essentially two lives for the price of one. This is inherently unfair.
I like to keep things simple. Some aspects should be regarded as such. Analogies help to view how an argument or how an idea can fit in many variables without losing its original thought. If your "what's fair or not fair" argument held credibility, it would be able to fit the mold in other variables.
So the analogy holds good. Dropship pilots able to escape death by ejecting is the same as someone almost being killed and runs behind cover. Both are instances of the enemy seeking to prevent death.
Tankers with HMGs jumping in and out of their tanks is a option that is afforded to players. It's no different than a dropship pilot who is providing transportation to his teammates and then picking them back up after an objective is met.
The "many lives" argument is...eh...shall I say a bit silly? If that's the case, players who come into battles with squadmates are essentially having more than one life. A logi who is repping is giving away 1ups better than green mushrooms.
What is fair? That now we restrict these players just so you can have the ability to kill them? Isn't that a bit unfair? That you cannot just accept that a pilot will eject or that a Sentinel with a HMG will use a vehicle to traverse the field and kill? I, for one, just like to say "okay, lets see if you can get away with it next time". That promotes healthy competition when viewed in that aspect.
Plus I feel you are only considering your argument for one aspect. How does it transcend in other scenarios that does not involve a HMG tanker who jumps out of his vehicle to kill you or a DS pilot who can no longer eject. Have you considered that in your thought experiments?
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.08.31 03:52:00 -
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Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Yes.
2 bad for you im jumping out and you can't do anything about it except for killing me after i bail
Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
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The Attorney General
2848
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Posted - 2014.08.31 05:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:The reload animation thing works for me. Tired of sentinels/CalScouta hoping out of their tank just before I kill it, now me down, then injector themselves back into the redline.
You got outsmarted. Deal with it.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
964
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Posted - 2014.08.31 06:07:00 -
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Jumping out of falling dropships I understand, but I think it needs to happen before the dropship starts freefalling. But getting out of tanks when they get destroyed is just stupid, I admit, sometimes very rarely I do that if I think I can be of some assistance to the team.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1830
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Posted - 2014.08.31 06:57:00 -
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I never leave my vehicle now. If im flying as i hop out my face collides with the ADS/DS, if i hop out my tank i get one-shotted by a
whisper cause i use my scout/frames for everything. I have a better chance of surviving the fall to my death.
Dying like a pro.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Anything you can do a RAPTOR can do better
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Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.08.31 12:39:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Yes. 2 bad for you im jumping out and you can't do anything about it except for killing me after i bail
Precisely.
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Cody Sietz
Evzones
Public.Disorder.
3930
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Posted - 2014.08.31 13:18:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:The reload animation thing works for me. Tired of sentinels/CalScouta hoping out of their tank just before I kill it, now me down, then injector themselves back into the redline. You got outsmarted. Deal with it.
Lol.
Gotta love when people defend a broken mechanic.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Kaughst
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
582
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Posted - 2014.08.31 15:04:00 -
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CCP said they wanted to add a animation to getting in and out of vehicles...frankly you can do a half measure and have the player stuck in one location for X amount of time till he fades away, after that having a driver in the vehicle would just make it so that any passengers have a reduced amount of time or get in instantly...whatevs.
The sea of crap is quite an anomaly, staying afloat justified to see exactly what else is in there floating with you.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
Top Men.
2699
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Posted - 2014.08.31 15:12:00 -
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Kaughst wrote:CCP said they wanted to add a animation to getting in and out of vehicles...frankly you can do a half measure and have the player stuck in one location for X amount of time till he fades away, after that having a driver in the vehicle would just make it so that any passengers have a reduced amount of time or get in instantly...whatevs.
Requires client side patch
MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
This does need to be fixed however i will miss teleporting into my dropship
Roles mastered- HAV/ADS/LDS/Forum Lord/Working on Assault
Pinned down? Let my tank scatter enemies for you v(^_^)v
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.09.01 00:40:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Yes it's ******* bullshit all that hard work doesn't even earn us a kill. And CCP is never going to fix what's REALLY wrong with Dust.
Ah poor thing. You get 75 to over 200 points for blowing up a vehicle and your mad because you didn't kill the pilot. I'd rather lose my proto Min Logi than my Inbcubus or Gunlogi. Be happy you got something if you at least blow up the vehicle. |
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.09.01 00:47:00 -
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A Tank Commander should always accept his loss and go up with his tank.
It should be the way of things
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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SGT NOVA STAR
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.09.01 00:59:00 -
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ImIvan wrote:Zindorak wrote:Well would you like us to stay in the DS while we fall to our deaths? Did you even read the post...? He just said it should take longer to get out of a vehicle, not impossible -.-
I remember having a conversation with a nice young lady about how I always jump out to preserve my 8.5kdr. I remember saying "ejection seat level 5" lol we laughed. Perhaps there can be truth to this?
VAYU! I CHOOSE YOU!
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