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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:34:00 -
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THIS
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:57:00 -
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Not sure if complaining...
Or bragging....
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3536
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:57:00 -
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That's spectacular. Way to farm those tumor growing machines.
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Kosakai
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
83
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Posted - 2014.08.28 06:57:00 -
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what uplinks are you using?
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
172
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:01:00 -
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Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using?
i use militia blue print uplinks people say they garbage but thay suit me lol
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:04:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using? i use militia blue print uplinks people say they garbage but thay suit me lol You do realize we can pause the video. That's not all you're using.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
172
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:05:00 -
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i give you props onthis video u are a legit dropship pilot good ****
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
3537
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:15:00 -
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i give you props onthis video u are a legit dropship pilot good **** More people running rooftop swarms would have put a damper on your farming ability. Pretty risky doing what you did. But this is a pub match and they appeared focusdd on the ground game. You were cloned after all. Still, nice to see you pulled your mission off.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
172
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Posted - 2014.08.28 07:16:00 -
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ive made the same im ambush off uplinks lol find get more points overall as matches are quicker 2
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:16:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using? i use militia blue print uplinks people say they garbage but thay suit me lol You do realize we can pause the video. That's not all you're using.
I never said that they were blueprint anywhere. it was the only image of an uplink i could find online lol. I have tutorial that i will put out tommorow. I just figured forum peeps are straight to the point. so i would put the short version :)
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:17:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using? i use militia blue print uplinks people say they garbage but thay suit me lol You do realize we can pause the video. That's not all you're using. I never said that they were blueprint anywhere. it was the only image of an uplink i could find online lol. I have tutorial that i will put out tommorow. I just figured forum peeps are straight to the point. so i would put the short version :)
and yes I am aware that you can pause ;)
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:21:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote:i give you props onthis video u are a legit dropship pilot good **** More people running rooftop swarms would have put a damper on your farming ability. Pretty risky doing what you did. But this is a pub match and they appeared focusdd on the ground game. You were cloned after all. Still, nice to see you pulled your mission off.
I was in a solo squad. If I were in a squad with a defend order + I was scanning the whole time. I think it could have been a big WP gain. And i could easily add 10 deaths to our clone count if i were on the ground instead . but it was fun
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:25:00 -
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Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using?
5 proto 3 advanced 1 basic
all on a level five amarr logi decked with range amps + prec.enhancers.
and a gorgan with an afterburner+scans+reps
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
652
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:32:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Not sure if complaining...
Or bragging.... i think hes doing both. with out uplinks battles will become ungodly slow paced and more often then not 1 team will get back back to the mcc and be unable to push out for the remainder of the match.
OP dosnt think of the big picture in the slightest
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
652
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:34:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using? 5 proto 3 advanced 1 basic all on a level five amarr logi decked with range amps + prec.enhancers. and a gorgan with an afterburner+scans+reps you do know once you swap out of the amarr logi suit you lose the bonus to all the uplinks you placed with that suit untill you place more right? ask shayz if you dont believe me
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 08:36:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:skippy678 wrote:Kosakai wrote:what uplinks are you using? 5 proto 3 advanced 1 basic all on a level five amarr logi decked with range amps + prec.enhancers. and a gorgan with an afterburner+scans+reps you do know once you swap out of the amarr logi suit you lose the bonus to all the uplinks you placed with that suit untill you place more right? ask shayz if you dont believe me
all the suits are amar logi /3 of em. with three uplinks a peice . in the video i actually return to the first suit and keep going after running through them.
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Bioshock Rejects
1067
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Posted - 2014.08.28 09:25:00 -
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Too bad you can't just throw them out the window like delivering the paper.
Because, that's why.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.08.28 11:19:00 -
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doesn't everyone drop uplinks like this? |
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Going for the gold
105
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Posted - 2014.08.28 11:33:00 -
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They're not really OP, it's just the fact that ONE player can put down so many of them that makes them seem OP.
Shotgunner for life.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Eurotrash Pubstars
1649
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Posted - 2014.08.28 12:37:00 -
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First of all, you did do the task you set for yourself very well. So props for that.
But I can't help but feel that the guy that went 31-21 won't appreciate you getting more payout for a 0-0 in which you never came within 75m of an enemy. And people wonder why Dust players seem so risk-averse...
If you've got gungame you might've turned the game around if you'd been groundpounding. Not hard to go 25-0 and turn that L into a W. And in practice, even 25-10 would probably have won the game, because a lot of the blueberry deaths would never have happened.
But feel free to ignore me, I know most players don't care about the result. I'm just old fashioned like that, even when it comes to lolpubs. |
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Hubert De LaBatte
Prima Gallicus
30
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Posted - 2014.08.28 13:16:00 -
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Ryme is right, victory first.
You could hack the outer objectives and choose the fastest drop uplink for the city, all the slow drops at a good distance just to have safe spawn if the fastest are corrupted.
One little hack and you won.... |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1385
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Posted - 2014.08.28 13:22:00 -
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Uplinks are essential in every game. I'm sure most of you have thought at one point that 'Why the HELL am I the ONLY one providing links?!' I know I have.
It's just so frustrating and really bad for the team if there's no links.
That said, that kind of uplink wh0ring is kinda lame. Virtually no risk and no matter what the outcome is, just WP WP WP for meeeee.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
3924
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Posted - 2014.08.28 13:47:00 -
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Please don't encourage this sort of behavior. It's like taking all the hard work I've done trying to emphasize the intelligent, non-spammy, positive tactical use of uplinks and flushing it. Nauseating.
It's always been easy enough to do, you can pull it off with only 2-3 spawns on top of towers or in the hills (depending on the map) in a lopsided match and just farm your own team's deaths as you get cloned out, like reverse protostomping or something. That or you'll get 12 snipers and 3 poor bastards getting massacred as payment for actually trying.
(Don't even need an Amarr logi, tbh, but it does make them last a little longer.)
Would never work in a close match or one where you are the superior side, of course, either nobody needs the spawns or would be carrying their own if they are at all decent.
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
2586
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Posted - 2014.08.28 15:30:00 -
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Hubert De LaBatte wrote:Ryme is right, victory first.
You could hack the outer objectives and choose the fastest drop uplink for the city, all the slow drops at a good distance just to have safe spawn if the fastest are corrupted.
One little hack and you won....
Very Legit Point. (i was using the fastest links in the city and actually i have an 8 minuite tutorial on how to fit those suits coming today)
I spent alot of time editing this video(at lest more than usual with the tunes and the high speed) and during that time i though alot about the pros and cons of my role on the team.
-if i were on the ground instead of in the air we would have been cloned alot faster and the last couple ticks wouldn't have mattered
-without the uplinks everywhere i feel that this match wouldnt have even been close as i was responsible for almost 100 clones spawning near/onto of points
- looking back at the lack of AV the other team had I could have done this with a python adding a couple kills and such however the presence of the python would have brought out AV ruining my plan
Here is a question for you as You seem like a logical person. Do you think that without those links we would have done better or worse as a team?
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 15:37:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:Not sure if complaining...
Or bragging.... i think hes doing both. with out uplinks battles will become ungodly slow paced and more often then not 1 team will get back back to the mcc and be unable to push out for the remainder of the match. OP dosnt think of the big picture in the slightest
Im sure you can fly a dropship like that eh?without falling on the first ring or catwalk you try to land on?
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
659
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Posted - 2014.08.28 15:52:00 -
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also uplinks are vulnerable to Dropships, snipers(in the right place) orbitals PLC and MASS (pending splash damage can hit them) also they cannot have that many spawns per uplinkunless you are amarr logi but ocne you leave the amarr logi suit all the bonuses attributed to the uplinks are lost.. so yeah uplinks are fine as they are
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Hubert De LaBatte
Prima Gallicus
33
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Posted - 2014.08.28 15:53:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Hubert De LaBatte wrote:Ryme is right, victory first.
You could hack the outer objectives and choose the fastest drop uplink for the city, all the slow drops at a good distance just to have safe spawn if the fastest are corrupted.
One little hack and you won.... Very Legit Point. (i was using the fastest links in the city and actually i have an 8 minuite tutorial on how to fit those suits coming today) I spent alot of time editing this video(at lest more than usual with the tunes and the high speed) and during that time i though alot about the pros and cons of my role on the team. -if i were on the ground instead of in the air we would have been cloned alot faster and the last couple ticks wouldn't have mattered -without the uplinks everywhere i feel that this match wouldnt have even been close as i was responsible for almost 100 clones spawning near/onto of points - looking back at the lack of AV the other team had I could have done this with a python adding a couple kills and such however the presence of the python would have brought out AV ruining my plan Here is a question for you as You seem like a logical person. Do you think that without those links we would have done better or worse as a team?
Sometimes we lose fight because drop uplinks are only on the rooftops and the ennemy hold the ground. So blueberries respawn continously and fall in the middle of the ennemy team and died, all the fight.
So if your uplinks are none seconded by good drop uplinks on the ground, directly placed in the good securits way all around the city, you just accelerate the loss of clones. If you are a full team, your team mates know where to drop, but in pub, it's just giving way for massacre.
But I'm agree, there is nothing worst than beeing the only one to put dropuplinks, and you made a fantastic job. But when it's done, use your dropuplinks to attack. Hmg or scout hack, I don't know but help your team actively.
For a lonely action, attack the less defended objective to be sure of the success. And you are the better to do that because you see everyone with your dropship.
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
2586
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Posted - 2014.08.28 16:00:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:also uplinks are vulnerable to Dropships, snipers(in the right place) orbitals PLC and MASS (pending splash damage can hit them) also they cannot have that many spawns per uplinkunless you are amarr logi but ocne you leave the amarr logi suit all the bonuses attributed to the uplinks are lost.. so yeah uplinks are fine as they are
You keep bringing that up after I told you I never changed suits(that info is literally months old)
We ALL know that you have passed i-SHAYZ-I logi lesson #1 . Now be a good fanboi and complain about protostomping or snipers being OP.
I can tell you most likely have 10%-30% the SP that I have and don't expect you to understand :)
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.08.28 16:03:00 -
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Hubert De LaBatte wrote:skippy678 wrote:Hubert De LaBatte wrote:Ryme is right, victory first.
You could hack the outer objectives and choose the fastest drop uplink for the city, all the slow drops at a good distance just to have safe spawn if the fastest are corrupted.
One little hack and you won.... Very Legit Point. (i was using the fastest links in the city and actually i have an 8 minuite tutorial on how to fit those suits coming today) I spent alot of time editing this video(at lest more than usual with the tunes and the high speed) and during that time i though alot about the pros and cons of my role on the team. -if i were on the ground instead of in the air we would have been cloned alot faster and the last couple ticks wouldn't have mattered -without the uplinks everywhere i feel that this match wouldnt have even been close as i was responsible for almost 100 clones spawning near/onto of points - looking back at the lack of AV the other team had I could have done this with a python adding a couple kills and such however the presence of the python would have brought out AV ruining my plan Here is a question for you as You seem like a logical person. Do you think that without those links we would have done better or worse as a team? Sometimes we lose fight because drop uplinks are only on the rooftops and the ennemy hold the ground. So blueberries respawn continously and fall in the middle of the ennemy team and died, all the fight. So if your uplinks are none seconded by good drop uplinks on the ground, directly placed in the good securits way all around the city, you just accelerate the loss of clones. If you are a full team, your team mates know where to drop, but in pub, it's just giving way for massacre. But I'm agree, there is nothing worst than beeing the only one to put dropuplinks, and you made a fantastic job. But when it's done, use your dropuplinks to attack. Hmg or scout hack, I don't know but help your team actively. For a lonely action, attack the less defended objective to be sure of the success. And you are the better to do that because you see everyone with your dropship.
I love your in depth answers Hubert o7. Do you think if i wasnt "uplinking" that we would have done as well or worse ?
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Hubert De LaBatte
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.08.28 16:24:00 -
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After seeing another time the fight:
Without your drop uplinks, your team take a big advantage at the mcc, and it was sensibly equal for the clones.
during the fight, your uplinks engage your team to respawn a lot in the city and nobody put other drop uplinks on the ground, and you lose for the clones with a big mcc advantage.
The only objectives hacked after the ennemy holded the city were the outside ones, so all actions in the city just costs clones with no results.
So yes, they could win without you... sorry...
The best you could do in this situation is stopping the loss of clones by taking back your first fit and return to the outside and spam drops around the 2 objectives.
Your firsts drop uplinks disappears in the city and you engage the team to take the outside objectives. No more clone lost, and a possibility to take back these 2 ones. |
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
2586
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Posted - 2014.08.28 18:23:00 -
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Hubert De LaBatte wrote:After seeing another time the fight:
Without your drop uplinks, your team take a big advantage at the mcc, and it was sensibly equal for the clones.
during the fight, your uplinks engage your team to respawn a lot in the city and nobody put other drop uplinks on the ground, and you lose for the clones with a big mcc advantage.
The only objectives hacked after the ennemy holded the city were the outside ones, so all actions in the city just costs clones with no results.
So yes, they could win without you... sorry...
The best you could do in this situation is stopping the loss of clones by taking back your first fit and return to the outside and spam drops around the 2 objectives.
Your firsts drop uplinks disappears in the city and you engage the team to take the outside objectives. No more clone lost, and a possibility to take back these 2 ones.
Sounds fair enough. My only thing is that if every clone that spawned on my links had to use one farther away then say add 10-15 seconds to each trip to an OBJ that amount of time would amount to them holding the points longer meaning the match ends much sooner making it less likely to get there MCC down as close as it was.
but hey thanks for your look into it. I must say that i had made several attempts at making this video before posting this on and I can assure everybody that it is NOT as easy as it looks o7 thanks
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Espartoi
Orkz Clan
329
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:33:00 -
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I don't like uplinks always spawning inside buildings or in a impossible place to get out. Sometimes half of the team is stuck somewhere.
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
412
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Posted - 2014.08.28 19:46:00 -
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Rep tools are op, ads/tanks are op, lots of sp is op....
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
3926
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Posted - 2014.08.28 20:21:00 -
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skippy678 wrote: I love your in depth answers Hubert o7. Do you think if i wasnt "uplinking" that we would have done as well or worse ?
Hubert is pretty spot on.
I think you're actually asking the wrong question to an extent, at least the way you asked it the first time. Would the team do worse if you didn't put down some uplinks? Hard to say, as well all know it often really doesn't matter what you do in Dust, you are simply doomed to lose.
A better question is would the team have done better if you weren't "uplinking" (which I take to be your term for flying around doing nothing else but spamming uplinks). Taking your earlier statement about having way more SP than another poster, I have to assume you are at minimum a decent and experienced player. In which case I'd answer yes, usually it probably would be better for the team if one of the better and more experienced players actually hacked something besides a redline supply depot.
Either way, since you got cloned out, your teammates were obviously getting slaughtered, which is not an uncommon thing to happen when you herd blueberies like that, especially on that map where you cannot shoot into the city very effectively from most of the places your uplinks went. On the central building in particular the strategy of controlling that rooftop alone and dropping down tends to result in exactly that, a lot of deaths as individual players drop down and get shredded by all the people waiting for them in the corridors below.
That's the problem with your argument about "getting in quicker" dropping into the middle of the city might be quicker, but not in a good way. People spawning elsewhere have a chance to get organized or at least grouped up.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
2586
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Posted - 2014.08.29 00:09:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:skippy678 wrote: I love your in depth answers Hubert o7. Do you think if i wasnt "uplinking" that we would have done as well or worse ?
Hubert is pretty spot on. I think you're actually asking the wrong question to an extent, at least the way you asked it the first time. Would the team do worse if you didn't put down some uplinks? Hard to say, as well all know it often really doesn't matter what you do in Dust, you are simply doomed to lose. A better question is would the team have done better if you weren't "uplinking" (which I take to be your term for flying around doing nothing else but spamming uplinks). Taking your earlier statement about having way more SP than another poster, I have to assume you are at minimum a decent and experienced player. In which case I'd answer yes, usually it probably would be better for the team if one of the better and more experienced players actually hacked something besides a redline supply depot. Either way, since you got cloned out, your teammates were obviously getting slaughtered, which is not an uncommon thing to happen when you herd blueberies like that, especially on that map where you cannot shoot into the city very effectively from most of the places your uplinks went. On the central building in particular the strategy of controlling that rooftop alone and dropping down tends to result in exactly this, a lot of deaths as individual players drop down and get shredded by all the people waiting for them in the corridors below. That's the problem with your argument about "getting in quicker" dropping into the middle of the city might be quicker, but not in a good way. People spawning elsewhere have a chance to get organized or at least grouped up.
"uplinking" ya i made that word up. but your right about what it means. lol
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
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Posted - 2014.08.29 01:19:00 -
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CCP fix that fact that the cheaters can "bury" the uplinks to become in destructible. I am sick of these cheater and the bullshit they are allowed to get away with. |
ladwar
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
2079
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Posted - 2014.08.29 01:35:00 -
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So you had atleast 1/3 spawn ins that game, probably closer to a half. One person and thats not op? All of you logis take note of this
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3276
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Posted - 2014.08.29 02:51:00 -
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hold that wrote:doesn't everyone drop uplinks like this? I do. |
ladwar
SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.08.29 03:14:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:hold that wrote:doesn't everyone drop uplinks like this? I do. So you see the problem here then too
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Bioshock Rejects
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Posted - 2014.08.30 09:47:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Hubert De LaBatte wrote:Ryme is right, victory first.
You could hack the outer objectives and choose the fastest drop uplink for the city, all the slow drops at a good distance just to have safe spawn if the fastest are corrupted.
One little hack and you won.... Very Legit Point. (i was using the fastest links in the city and actually i have an 8 minuite tutorial on how to fit those suits coming today) I spent alot of time editing this video(at lest more than usual with the tunes and the high speed) and during that time i though alot about the pros and cons of my role on the team. -if i were on the ground instead of in the air we would have been cloned alot faster and the last couple ticks wouldn't have mattered -without the uplinks everywhere i feel that this match wouldnt have even been close as i was responsible for almost 100 clones spawning near/onto of points - looking back at the lack of AV the other team had I could have done this with a python adding a couple kills and such however the presence of the python would have brought out AV ruining my plan Here is a question for you as You seem like a logical person. Do you think that without those links we would have done better or worse as a team?
I am not sure you played optimally but you surely didn't hurt the team effort by placing your uplinks like you did. Your team was winning, they just got cloned out and that wasn't because you were placing uplinks in good spots. If you don't go pew pew though some people think you are doing something wrong.
Because, that's why.
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