DUST Search - The power of the PS3

The dark cloud wrote:

The Robot Devil wrote:

http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648

I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.

SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. Twisted

Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it.

"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."

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The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2563	Posted - 2014.08.26 02:51:00 - [1] - Quote http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less. SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Michael Arck 5264	Posted - 2014.08.26 03:22:00 - [2] - Quote Folding Project. Cool stuff. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2564	Posted - 2014.08.26 03:29:00 - [3] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Folding Project. Cool stuff. It was pretty cool. I Folded a lot when not using my PS3. There was a discovery made but I don't remember where I read it at. Too bad they stopped it, I would have figured that they would have kept going for a long time. I have been thinking about doing it on my PC but I don't want to burn up my graphics card. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1172	Posted - 2014.08.26 03:45:00 - [4] - Quote yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. i used to play on a modified server for battlefront with 128 players and that was on a PS2. then came the removal of friendly fire and aim assist that's all that PS3 has given us so a bunch of next gen turds that jumped into gaming after it became casualized can feel elite. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Michael Arck 5264	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:07:00 - [5] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: My post states that I fully understand that PS3s were used as supercomputers not only for the folding project but for military installations as well. So cool Fixed Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
castba Merc-0107 587	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:16:00 - [6] - Quote TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. Snip Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1173	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:20:00 - [7] - Quote castba wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. Snip Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1174	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:30:00 - [8] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: TEBOW BAGGINS wrote: My post states that I fully understand that PS3s were used as supercomputers not only for the folding project but for military installations as well. So cool Fixed i just looked at it on wiki which means i'm now an expert in my ivory tower; one who is exalted by the folding community under the shadow i cast upon them. AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 867	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:41:00 - [9] - Quote Real power - ZX Spectrum. Sorry for bad English =) >>> Legion rdy! <<<
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3995	Posted - 2014.08.26 04:49:00 - [10] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less. SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2567	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:03:00 - [11] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less. SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it. I tried to reply 3 times now so I hope this one will actually go through. Yes, a PC will load faster than a PS3. I would say that has more to do with overall system bandwidth and things like that. If I were a betting man I would bet a cell processor powered PC with the same specs and the same level of code optimization would load faster. The PS4 has and 8 core processor and has about 1.84 tflops of power and a PS3 has a single main core and a 7 special cores and produces 1.8 tflops. To be a processor from mid 2000s that is pretty good. I am not saying the PS3 is better than the PS4, I am saying that the cell processor was a step in the right direction and that putting new and better tech into the current generation of consoles would have (in my opinion) been smarter and would have given a longer life the the current consoles. The current generation of consoles are just mid range (at best) gaming computers with half the functionality with a low price. Cells running with a PS4 specs and code optimized for the cell will blow a x86 out of the water. The cell was designed to fill the gap between regular CPUs and GPUs. x86 architecture is from the late 70s and the system architecture of most PCs are from around in the same time. The PC needs a revolution and the cell was made to do that but SONY gave up and now they are only going to be found in task specific computers. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 18	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:50:00 - [12] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less. SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it. Kasparov was beaten by IBM's RISC CELL, not by INTEL's CISC X86.
Zindorak 1.U.P 685	Posted - 2014.08.26 22:56:00 - [13] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less. SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat. wat Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2974	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:03:00 - [14] - Quote 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2567	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:07:00 - [15] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs... That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2974	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:13:00 - [16] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs... That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast. Lol wasn't disagreeing, just commenting that the amount of RAM a PS3 has compared to its processing power is ...idiotic. So I was actually agreeing with you ^_^
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 18	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:14:00 - [17] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs... RISC will alway be superior.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3196	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:16:00 - [18] - Quote It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2568	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:45:00 - [19] - Quote Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Zindorak 1.U.P 689	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:46:00 - [20] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs laughs Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2569	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:49:00 - [21] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs... That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast. Lol wasn't disagreeing, just commenting that the amount of RAM a PS3 has compared to its processing power is ...idiotic. So I was actually agreeing with you ^_^ Thanks for agreeing! It is funny that 16 of them have only half of the RAM. If only we all could have 16 rigged together, DUST would play like a dream. Hell, if SONY had put in a memory expansion port like the 64 they may have been able to curb some of the problems of the PS3. More RAM (up to a certain point) always makes things better. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2569	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:52:00 - [22] - Quote Zindorak wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs laughs Give them a break, volcanos are tough to deal with. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
Zindorak 1.U.P 689	Posted - 2014.08.26 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Zindorak wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs laughs Give them a break, volcanos are tough to deal with. o yea Reyajevik in Iceland Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Defy Gravity G.L.O.R.Y 505	Posted - 2014.08.27 00:43:00 - [24] - Quote #Ps3ForLyfe All of your questions will be answered Here
The Robot Devil Algintal Core Gallente Federation 2571	Posted - 2014.08.27 01:01:00 - [25] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: #Ps3ForLyfe It may have its problems but it is still one of the best. I love my PS3 and I use it daily. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 18	Posted - 2014.08.28 00:27:00 - [26] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: #Ps3ForLyfe It may have its problems but it is still one of the best. I love my PS3 and I use it daily. Mercedes has a TV advert in which a series of vehicles are flashed on the screen and 2 of them are Gran Tourismo rendered. So the PS3 is good enough for Merc!
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5847	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:13:00 - [27] - Quote I bet a PS4 could do it better pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5847	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:14:00 - [28] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 18	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:30:00 - [29] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Joel II X wrote: It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right. It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly. WOW- hook, line and sinker. Face it you're a CCP groupie. CCP is a little under funded developer that sits in a country that was bankrupt in the early days of dust. You should reflect on SONY, and PSN distribution. CCP's screwed the pooch, early and often.
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 247	Posted - 2014.08.28 02:47:00 - [30] - Quote Not true. Other consoles have been used in a similar manner. My take on 514: Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive

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