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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2563
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 02:51:00 -
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 http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648
 
 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.
 
 SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.
  
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        |  Michael Arck
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.26 03:22:00 -
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 Folding Project. Cool stuff.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2564
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 03:29:00 -
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 Michael Arck wrote:Folding Project. Cool stuff. 
 
 It was pretty cool. I Folded a lot when not using my PS3. There was a discovery made but I don't remember where I read it at. Too bad they stopped it, I would have figured that they would have kept going for a long time. I have been thinking about doing it on my PC but I don't want to burn up my graphics card.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.26 03:45:00 -
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 yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. i used to play on a modified server for battlefront with 128 players and that was on a PS2. then came the removal of friendly fire and aim assist that's all that PS3 has given us so a bunch of next gen turds that jumped into gaming after it became casualized can feel elite.
 
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        |  Michael Arck
 
 5264
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:07:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:My post states that I fully understand that PS3s were used as supercomputers not only for the folding project but for military installations as well. So cool 
 
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        |  castba
 Merc-0107
 
 587
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:16:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
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 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen?
 Will it actually be more than "prettiness"?
 What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1173
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:20:00 -
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 castba wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
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 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. 
 idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1174
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:30:00 -
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 Michael Arck wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:My post states that I fully understand that PS3s were used as supercomputers not only for the folding project but for military installations as well. So cool Fixed i just looked at it on wiki which means i'm now an expert in my ivory tower; one who is exalted by the folding community under the shadow i cast upon them.
 
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        |  John Psi
 Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
 Steel Balls Alliance
 
 867
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:41:00 -
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 Real power - ZX Spectrum.
 
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        |  The dark cloud
 The Rainbow Effect
 
 3995
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 04:49:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2567
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 21:03:00 -
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 The dark cloud wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it. 
 
 I tried to reply 3 times now so I hope this one will actually go through.
 
 Yes, a PC will load faster than a PS3. I would say that has more to do with overall system bandwidth and things like that. If I were a betting man I would bet a cell processor powered PC with the same specs and the same level of code optimization would load faster. The PS4 has and 8 core processor and has about 1.84 tflops of power and a PS3 has a single main core and a 7 special cores and produces 1.8 tflops. To be a processor from mid 2000s that is pretty good.
 
 I am not saying the PS3 is better than the PS4, I am saying that the cell processor was a step in the right direction and that putting new and better tech into the current generation of consoles would have (in my opinion) been smarter and would have given a longer life the the current consoles. The current generation of consoles are just mid range (at best) gaming computers with half the functionality with a low price.
 
 Cells running with a PS4 specs and code optimized for the cell will blow a x86 out of the water. The cell was designed to fill the gap between regular CPUs and GPUs. x86 architecture is from the late 70s and the system architecture of most PCs are from around in the same time. The PC needs a revolution and the cell was made to do that but SONY gave up and now they are only going to be found in task specific computers.
 
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        |  GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 22:50:00 -
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 The dark cloud wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Erm yeah if the cell core is so superior why can most PC's load levels for games much faster then the PS3? And that thing causes way to many issues with programming games. The PS4 build is basically a gaming optimised PC which helps developers ALOT unfortunately there is like allmost no decent game on the next gen consoles that justify the cost for it. 
 Kasparov was beaten by IBM's RISC CELL, not by INTEL's CISC X86.
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        |  Zindorak
 1.U.P
 
 685
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 22:56:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  wat
 
 Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad | 
      
      
        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 2974
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:03:00 -
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 16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2567
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:07:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...   
 
 That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast.
 
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        |  Pokey Dravon
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 2974
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:13:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...   That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast.  
 Lol wasn't disagreeing, just commenting that the amount of RAM a PS3 has compared to its processing power is ...idiotic. So I was actually agreeing with you ^_^
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        |  GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:14:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...   
 RISC will alway be superior.
 
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        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 3196
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:16:00 -
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 It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2568
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:45:00 -
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 Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  
 
 It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console.
 
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        |  Zindorak
 1.U.P
 
 689
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:46:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs *laughs*
 
 Pokemon master!
CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad | 
      
      
        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2569
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:49:00 -
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 Pokey Dravon wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:16 PS3s linked together, and together they still have less RAM than most gaming PCs...   That is not the point. Yes they have anemic RAM and woeful allocation of that RAM but that shouldn't take away from the power of the processor. Point still stands, the cell processor is a beast.  Lol wasn't disagreeing, just commenting that the amount of RAM a PS3 has compared to its processing power is ...idiotic. So I was actually agreeing with you ^_^ 
 
 Thanks for agreeing! It is funny that 16 of them have only half of the RAM. If only we all could have 16 rigged together, DUST would play like a dream. Hell, if SONY had put in a memory expansion port like the 64 they may have been able to curb some of the problems of the PS3. More RAM (up to a certain point) always makes things better.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2569
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:52:00 -
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 Zindorak wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs *laughs* 
 
 Give them a break, volcanos are tough to deal with.
  
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        |  Zindorak
 1.U.P
 
 689
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.26 23:53:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Zindorak wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. I scroll down to the bottom of the forums and i see jobs *laughs* Give them a break, volcanos are tough to deal with.   o yea Reyajevik in Iceland
 
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        |  Defy Gravity
 G.L.O.R.Y
 
 505
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.27 00:43:00 -
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 #Ps3ForLyfe
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2571
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.27 01:01:00 -
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 Defy Gravity wrote:#Ps3ForLyfe 
 It may have its problems but it is still one of the best. I love my PS3 and I use it daily.
 
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        |  GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 00:27:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Defy Gravity wrote:#Ps3ForLyfe It may have its problems but it is still one of the best. I love my PS3 and I use it daily.  
 Mercedes has a TV advert in which a series of vehicles are flashed on the screen and 2 of them are Gran Tourismo rendered.
 
 So the PS3 is good enough for Merc!
 
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Cult of Gasai
 
 5847
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 02:13:00 -
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 I bet a PS4 could do it better
 
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        |  Scheneighnay McBob
 Cult of Gasai
 
 5847
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 02:14:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly.
 
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        |  GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
 18
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 02:30:00 -
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 Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly. 
 WOW-
 
 hook, line and sinker.
 
 Face it you're a CCP groupie. CCP is a little under funded developer that sits in a country that was bankrupt in the early days of dust.
 
 You should reflect on SONY, and PSN distribution.
 
 
 CCP's screwed the pooch, early and often.
 
 
 
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        |  Venerable Phage
 Red Shirts Away Team
 
 247
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 02:47:00 -
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 Not true. Other consoles have been used in a similar manner.
 
 My take on 514: 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2575
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 06:36:00 -
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 GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly. WOW- hook, line and sinker. Face it you're a CCP groupie. CCP is a little under funded developer that sits in a country that was bankrupt in the early days of dust. You should reflect on SONY, and PSN distribution. CCP's screwed the pooch, early and often. 
 
 I disagree, I don't think it has to do with funding. I think it has to do with the experience of the programmesr, scope of their vision and the demands we place on them to deliver what we consider a AAA title. All of those and the lateness of the title hurt the game. If DUST had been released 3 or 4 years ago it would have done much better and had a bigger following. They waited too long to develop a game on a system that was difficult to code for and at the end of its productive life. Also, CCP promised more than they could deliver. I do believe that they could have accomplished most of what they wanted to do if they had had more experience with FPSs and the PS3 but their main flaw was the year, if the game had been release two years earlier we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
 
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        |  Minmatar Citizen 3173120
 Forty-Nine Fedayeen
 Minmatar Republic
 
 96
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 16:09:00 -
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 FYI, this is OLD news! The US airforce bought thousands of the ORIGINAL ps3 systems. If you still have one, its worth a couple hundred. Sony "patched" the ps3 to make running "other" programs, next to impossible.
 HOWEVER, I still have the Ps3 master code.....
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2576
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.28 21:00:00 -
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 Minmatar Citizen 3173120 wrote:FYI, this is OLD news! The US airforce bought thousands of the ORIGINAL ps3 systems. If you still have one, its worth a couple hundred. Sony "patched" the ps3 to make running "other" programs, next to impossible. HOWEVER, I still have the Ps3 master code.....  
 
 Ps3 master code indeed.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
 1178
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.29 00:06:00 -
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 i remember them saying that the PS3 could grow in processing power when networked because it could share it's load with the other PS3's it was networked with.. did this happen in the folding projects?
 
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        |  Leither Yiltron
 Molon Labe.
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 946
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.29 00:15:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  
 
 Not sure if you're trolling or are really just stupid enough to make posts about subjects you evidently don't understand.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
 2576
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.29 02:50:00 -
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 Leither Yiltron wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Not sure if you're trolling or are really just stupid enough to make posts about subjects you evidently don't understand. 
 
 
 
 Then tell me what I don't understand.
 
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        |  GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 20:43:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's powerful enough to run the promised Dust 514, but here we are - blaming the console and CCP... being half right.  It is both. The PS3 can't handle what we want from a shooter and CCPs inexperience with PS3 programming compounds the problem. It takes lots of experience to develop for the cell. They have done a good job but it is just too late in the life of the console. Also having to go through sony for absolutely everything doesn't work well with MMOs, as they update constantly. WOW- hook, line and sinker. Face it you're a CCP groupie. CCP is a little under funded developer that sits in a country that was bankrupt in the early days of dust. You should reflect on SONY, and PSN distribution. CCP's screwed the pooch, early and often. My refering to financing was to point out that CCP without the PSN could not have afforded the distribution network needed to support a high profile game. Uncle Gabe will help CCP with Legion. I disagree, I don't think it has to do with funding. I think it has to do with the experience of the programmesr, scope of their vision and the demands we place on them to deliver what we consider a AAA title. All of those and the lateness of the title hurt the game. If DUST had been released 3 or 4 years ago it would have done much better and had a bigger following. They waited too long to develop a game on a system that was difficult to code for and at the end of its productive life. Also, CCP promised more than they could deliver. I do believe that they could have accomplished most of what they wanted to do if they had had more experience with FPSs and the PS3 but their main flaw was the year, if the game had been release two years earlier we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.29 22:51:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:castba wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
 Snip
 
 
 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding 
 No mans sky looks freaken amazing and concept is just brilliant, hope they pull it off
 
 
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        |  Onesimus Tarsus
 is-a-Corporation
 
 2554
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:01:00 -
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 The Robot Devil wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Not sure if you're trolling or are really just stupid enough to make posts about subjects you evidently don't understand. Then tell me what I don't understand. The silence is deafening.
 
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        |  TEBOW BAGGINS
 GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:10:00 -
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 The True Inferno wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:castba wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
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 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding No mans sky looks freaken amazing and concept is just brilliant, hope they pull it off yea only time will tell.. 3.5 years of following dust tho has taught me not to get too hyped on console gaming. i was this hyped on dust conceptions at one time. specifically the "procedurally generating" maps they mentioned one time.. there was a concept that we would fight for planetary interaction players in EVE to boost their planets resource output that would be in turn used to craft our dust gear, meaning that they could socket any EVE planet that would have procedural generated terrain in between the sockets. maybe in legion.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:13:00 -
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 Onesimus Tarsus wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:http://www.space.com/26943-sony-playstations-calculate-black-hole-motion.html?cmpid=514648 I just wanted to share what a PS3 can do when used correctly. Yes, I know there are multiple PS3s computing together but no other game console can claim that they make scientific breakthroughs. Suck it to all of you who say the PS3 is junk, it is the programmers inability or inexperience that hinders the PS3. The hardware may be difficult and it may even be limited by the amount of RAM but it is a powerhouse none the less.  SONY should have kept the cell processor and told developers to HTFU and get good. Give the PS4 the cell instead of an x86 and let it eat.  Not sure if you're trolling or are really just stupid enough to make posts about subjects you evidently don't understand. Then tell me what I don't understand. The silence is deafening. 
 
 I know. The entire point of my post has been that the cell is a step forward in affordable personal processing and if the code is optimized for cell processing then it is very efficient. Cells are the the in between, a stepping stone from x86 to GPUs. People get all torn up about it and want to bring in multicore systems in current PCs and yes they are very good but if a cell was to be produced to current standards it would be very powerful.
 
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        |  The Robot Devil
 Algintal Core
 Gallente Federation
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:21:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:The True Inferno wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:castba wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
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 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding No mans sky looks freaken amazing and concept is just brilliant, hope they pull it off yea only time will tell.. 3.5 years of following dust tho has taught me not to get too hyped on console gaming. i was this hyped on dust conceptions at one time. specifically the "procedurally generating" maps they mentioned one time.. there was a concept that we would fight for planetary interaction players in EVE to boost their planets resource output that would be in turn used to craft our dust gear, meaning that they could socket any EVE planet that would have procedural generated terrain in between the sockets. maybe in legion. 
 
 Sweet zombie Jesus I hope so. I was pulled into DUST because of the market, the idea of a persistent universe and that there would be so many maps on these different planets. The market never came, the universe idea is here and the maps never made it either. I love the idea of there being 19,715 barren planets and each planet could have anywhere from three to nine districts and that some of those planets had infrastructure that could be manipulated by the players who controlled the district.
 
 67,000+ planets in k-space each with at least three districts, that is a titan full of maps*. I hope legion does better, I am not holding my breath but I like to stay optimistic.
 
 *I was thinking that this number is for known space but it may include WH, I will have to look into it.
 
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        |  The True Inferno
 Myrmidon Syndicate
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:35:00 -
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 TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:The True Inferno wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:castba wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:yea i remember all the hype about cells 10 years ago.. it was supposed to revolutionize gaming.. instead it seems we've taken steps backwards, the gratphics are better is all that came of it. 
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 Yet, what will the current gen supply over previous gen? Will it actually be more than "prettiness"? What about from ps2 to PS1? I don't recall much improvment other than graphics... Same could be said for most generations. idk if they pull off No Man's Sky that could be the first step in an actual breakthrough in coding No mans sky looks freaken amazing and concept is just brilliant, hope they pull it off yea only time will tell.. 3.5 years of following dust tho has taught me not to get too hyped on console gaming. i was this hyped on dust conceptions at one time. specifically the "procedurally generating" maps they mentioned one time.. there was a concept that we would fight for planetary interaction players in EVE to boost their planets resource output that would be in turn used to craft our dust gear, meaning that they could socket any EVE planet that would have procedural generated terrain in between the sockets. maybe in legion. 
 Yes, maybe in legion...
 
 
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        |  Jadek Menaheim
 Xer Cloud Consortium
 
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      | Posted - 2014.08.29 23:52:00 -
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 Very cool stuff. I had always joked about turning my PS3 into a bitcoin miner when I first started as a miner. It would be laughably worthless with the difficulty level.
 
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