DUST Search - Faction Warfare...What LP item would encourage you to play more?

vincent FF7 514 wrote:

Daddrobit wrote:

vincent FF7 514 wrote:

And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting.

It's not some result of American parenting, it's game design 101. Risk vs Reward.

There's more risk of losing your suit to friendly fire or going against a stacked team, and up until recently, you were rewarded a pitiful amount of LP for doing so. But even now with increased payouts, people who play lets say for Gallente as a heavy have nothing to spend it on, there is literally no reason for that person to play. The same for any other person who doesn't have their suit or weapon available.

And it's a game, a majority of what makes gamers play games is playing it for the incentives. What if they took away the aspect of Bowser and rescuing Princess Peach from the Mario Bros games? You wouldn't say, "Funny how you need incentives to play this game, you should just play it because it's fun." Nintendo would have dropped the IP from lack of sales faster than the Virtual Boy.

Once upon a time, the gamer needed no trophy to bask in the glory of his in game accomplishments. He didnt need a reason to play a game mode besides the basic desire to play and joy it brought.

Usually a long winded excuse or in your case, a post of many words means you are excusing entitled behavior that you possess. Heres an idea, play FW because its fun, challenging, and competitive. Not because of suits in a LP store. You need a incentive to participate in that? Thats funny.

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I-Shayz-I I----------I 4661	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:16:00 - [1] - Quote Pretty simple question. Please no gigantic lists of items...if you want to state one from each faction that would be okay though, but try to keep your replies simple. It can be a group of items, a very specific item, or even a variant of an existing item. The biggest thing for me would be Sentinels/Commandos. Amarr is currently the only faction with them and I have high standings for Minmatar. What item would you like to see on the LP market that would encourage you to play FW rather than public matches? 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17374	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:18:00 - [2] - Quote Honestly there's very little Gallente gear that interests me, so there isn't much. Probably variants on things that you wouldn't be able to get elsewhere, like an assault plasma cannon or something unique like that. I rarely use ARs and the scanners aren't great, so the unique aspects of the Gal store for me atm aren't really worth it. The Min store has some cool rep tools and the Amarr store has specialist SCRs, so I like getting those. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1897	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:18:00 - [3] - Quote Faction mods, suits, and vehicles that are superior to and unique from their ISK counter parts.
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 79	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:20:00 - [4] - Quote 4 shot State breach Bolt Pistol Or the normal ones. "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 805	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:21:00 - [5] - Quote Specialist versions for the weapon variants. Federation Ion Pistols. Some goddamned highslot modules. Seriously, Gallente doesn't get a single one... O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 182	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:22:00 - [6] - Quote Minmatar Sentinels.
Cass Caul 829	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:22:00 - [7] - Quote The missing weapons, Specialist versions of all weapons: Sidearms, Heavy Weapons The rest of the suits: AM/CA Scout, CA/GA/MN Sentinel and Commando And Fed Madrugar & State Gunnlogi not being fitted with small turrets. I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 734	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote Not having racial parity means it's entirely based on gear preference. If we had racial parity, mercs would choose more based on RP and loyalty rather than access to specific gear. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3281	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:30:00 - [9] - Quote A LP officer variant.. Not as good as other officer gear but In between proto and officer. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
jenza aranda BetaMax. 3541	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:39:00 - [10] - Quote One of the suggestions i put fourth while on CPM is an "Marine" Item/weapon tier. Better than proto but worse than officer. Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki

I-Shayz-I I----------I 4661	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:45:00 - [11] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: A LP officer variant.. Not as good as other officer gear but In between proto and officer. Like the Krin's? Basically something like more ammo in the clip or something, but the same damage as proto. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3281	Posted - 2014.08.22 22:50:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: A LP officer variant.. Not as good as other officer gear but In between proto and officer. Like the Krin's? Basically something like more ammo in the clip or something, but the same damage as proto. Great example! Yeah you're spot on. That's just my thoughts though. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1498	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:04:00 - [13] - Quote Amar scouts, cloaks, cal scouts, bolt pistol , burst hmgs basically a update SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 231	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:14:00 - [14] - Quote All gear should have a LP counterpart. LP market looks like a 1.6 thrift store. Oh, look at all these scout suits! Min & gal only...wtf? Love the lp officer variant weapons idea. That will drive FW activity fo sho! Burning through clones like Rusty Venture.
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1130	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:29:00 - [15] - Quote Just having all suits would make me care more lol. If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 11	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:48:00 - [16] - Quote And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2986	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:49:00 - [17] - Quote Republic Core Locus Grenades. Tanker/Logi/Assault
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 3282	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:54:00 - [18] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting. Well it doesn't pay isk so you kinda need an incentive for it..? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4663	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:56:00 - [19] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting. We need incentives to play one game mode rather than another. I'll still play FW, I just have barely anything to spend my LP on. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2150	Posted - 2014.08.22 23:58:00 - [20] - Quote Specialist drop suits with more CPU/PG Make it happen CCP!! Protostompers would stay in FW and not go into pubs, I promise "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor

Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 806	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:01:00 - [21] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting. It's not some result of American parenting, it's game design 101. Risk vs Reward. There's more risk of losing your suit to friendly fire or going against a stacked team, and up until recently, you were rewarded a pitiful amount of LP for doing so. But even now with increased payouts, people who play lets say for Gallente as a heavy have nothing to spend it on, there is literally no reason for that person to play. The same for any other person who doesn't have their suit or weapon available. And it's a game, a majority of what makes gamers play games is playing it for the incentives. What if they took away the aspect of Bowser and rescuing Princess Peach from the Mario Bros games? You wouldn't say, "Funny how you need incentives to play this game, you should just play it because it's fun." Nintendo would have dropped the IP from lack of sales faster than the Virtual Boy. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 399	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:31:00 - [22] - Quote Well. Eqiupments for LP are great. Anyway. 1 winned FW means 600-900k isks reward in proto guns. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1271	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:42:00 - [23] - Quote LP Dropsuit Parity. Maybe some FW Officer Dropsuits and Weapons loot drops at Level 10? I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that ** is hilarious.
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 218	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:52:00 - [24] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Republic Core Locus Grenades. this and a full CR line. i wanna be able to get all my weaponry from the Minny LP store. (besides NKs of course) Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader \| Yep Squad Spokesman
Ace Starburst is well hung 112	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:17:00 - [25] - Quote Caldari Sentinel with 200 more shield and 200 less armor.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 884	Posted - 2014.08.23 01:33:00 - [26] - Quote All suits We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Sgt Kirk Lucent Echelon 7356	Posted - 2014.08.23 06:01:00 - [27] - Quote Federation Methana II Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 9126	Posted - 2014.08.23 06:24:00 - [28] - Quote Knives. None of the factions sell knives in their LP store. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.08.23 06:40:00 - [29] - Quote More Combat Rifles please. Yes I know we have the Boundless Specialist which I'm not complaining about, but it would be nice to have the other tiers. Alternatively or additionally... Caldari Eryx and Gallente Prometheus. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
castba Merc-0107 585	Posted - 2014.08.23 06:59:00 - [30] - Quote Better than proto dropsuits. See 'Hilmar' sentinel as an example (2H 4L slots) But I still wouldn't wait longer than a minute or two for a battle. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti

Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5807	Posted - 2014.08.23 07:19:00 - [31] - Quote All of them. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
vincent FF7 514 sephiroth clones 12	Posted - 2014.08.23 07:31:00 - [32] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting. It's not some result of American parenting, it's game design 101. Risk vs Reward. There's more risk of losing your suit to friendly fire or going against a stacked team, and up until recently, you were rewarded a pitiful amount of LP for doing so. But even now with increased payouts, people who play lets say for Gallente as a heavy have nothing to spend it on, there is literally no reason for that person to play. The same for any other person who doesn't have their suit or weapon available. And it's a game, a majority of what makes gamers play games is playing it for the incentives. What if they took away the aspect of Bowser and rescuing Princess Peach from the Mario Bros games? You wouldn't say, "Funny how you need incentives to play this game, you should just play it because it's fun." Nintendo would have dropped the IP from lack of sales faster than the Virtual Boy. Once upon a time, the gamer needed no trophy to bask in the glory of his in game accomplishments. He didnt need a reason to play a game mode besides the basic desire to play and joy it brought. Usually a long winded excuse or in your case, a post of many words means you are excusing entitled behavior that you possess. Heres an idea, play FW because its fun, challenging, and competitive. Not because of suits in a LP store. You need a incentive to participate in that? Thats funny.
Haerr Legio DXIV 1230	Posted - 2014.08.23 07:41:00 - [33] - Quote Being able to opt out of non officer salvage would make me play FW again... (A give / salvage / scrap / sell button would work too) But never mind that I'll bite: Federation Type-I / -II Suits (Different slot layouts for suits.) Federation Fancy Kinetic Catalyzer ([13+%] more SPEED!) Federation Allotek Specialist Breach Shotgun Federation Allotek Specialist Burst Assault Rifle Federation CreoDron Specialist Breach Assault Rifle Federation Duvolle Specialist Tactical Assault Rifle So basically things that are not available through the normal ISK market.
ROMULUS H3X research lab 183	Posted - 2014.08.23 07:48:00 - [34] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Pretty simple question. Please no gigantic lists of items...if you want to state one from each faction that would be okay though, but try to keep your replies simple. It can be a group of items, a very specific item, or even a variant of an existing item. The biggest thing for me would be Sentinels/Commandos. Amarr is currently the only faction with them and I have high standings for Minmatar. What item would you like to see on the LP market that would encourage you to play FW rather than public matches? F O R G E G U N !! FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.08.23 08:04:00 - [35] - Quote castba wrote: Better than proto dropsuits. See 'Hilmar' sentinel as an example (2H 4L slots) But I still wouldn't wait longer than a minute or two for a battle. "Hellmar" is back down to 1H4L. Shock has 1Light 1Sidearm. Both got fixed recently. Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Daddrobit You Can Call Me Daddy 812	Posted - 2014.08.23 08:33:00 - [36] - Quote vincent FF7 514 wrote: Daddrobit wrote: vincent FF7 514 wrote: And after you get your suits you wouldnt care anymore. Funny how you guys need incentives to play a game mode. The beauty of american parenting. It's not some result of American parenting, it's game design 101. Risk vs Reward. There's more risk of losing your suit to friendly fire or going against a stacked team, and up until recently, you were rewarded a pitiful amount of LP for doing so. But even now with increased payouts, people who play lets say for Gallente as a heavy have nothing to spend it on, there is literally no reason for that person to play. The same for any other person who doesn't have their suit or weapon available. And it's a game, a majority of what makes gamers play games is playing it for the incentives. What if they took away the aspect of Bowser and rescuing Princess Peach from the Mario Bros games? You wouldn't say, "Funny how you need incentives to play this game, you should just play it because it's fun." Nintendo would have dropped the IP from lack of sales faster than the Virtual Boy. Once upon a time, the gamer needed no trophy to bask in the glory of his in game accomplishments. He didnt need a reason to play a game mode besides the basic desire to play and joy it brought. Usually a long winded excuse or in your case, a post of many words means you are excusing entitled behavior that you possess. Heres an idea, play FW because its fun, challenging, and competitive. Not because of suits in a LP store. You need a incentive to participate in that? Thats funny. First, get off that high horse of yours, I'm afraid you'll lose consciousness from the lack of oxygen up there. And next, you misunderstand, this is literally Game Design 101 stuff here, learning that gamers need incentives to play and basic theories behind balancing those incentives was literally **** I learned back in my first semester at ASU. Take your own name for example, Vincent from FF7. His Death Sentence weapon has no Materia Growth, the rate at which it grows to become more powerful through killing enemies can be very grindy, and his Limit Breaks are potential liabilities. So why use him? Because when you -do- slog through a couple 1000 enemies, he become extraordinarily powerful when combined with materia like D.Blow. The game creators -incentivized- the players to use him with the promise of eventually reaching that uber damage point. And games have always given incentives pretty much so long as they've existed; ever heard of the hi-score board? The hi-score board has been incentivising players to continue dumping quarters into cabinets even before the first video games with Pinball Machines. Incentives have always always been around and just because they've become more flashy or have been integrated into the game so well you don't initially notice doesn't make them any less necessary or important. O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1280	Posted - 2014.08.23 08:34:00 - [37] - Quote No item would encourage me to play more FW. Shorter wait times would though; cause I don't play this game just to sit around and wait. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Kill Scotty
Callidus Vanus Inner.Hell 312	Posted - 2014.08.23 09:08:00 - [38] - Quote Uprising 1.0 Cal logi suit, with like a 50k lp cost. Would be hilarious.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1022	Posted - 2014.08.23 09:12:00 - [39] - Quote there should be LP skill boosters because otherwise, pretty soon when Destiny comes I won't play this game at all *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 472	Posted - 2014.08.23 09:46:00 - [40] - Quote Republic Core Specialist Flaylock Pistol Stats are taken from when it was OP. I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. 3 to go.

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3992	Posted - 2014.08.23 09:59:00 - [41] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Pretty simple question. Please no gigantic lists of items...if you want to state one from each faction that would be okay though, but try to keep your replies simple. It can be a group of items, a very specific item, or even a variant of an existing item. The biggest thing for me would be Sentinels/Commandos. Amarr is currently the only faction with them and I have high standings for Minmatar. What item would you like to see on the LP market that would encourage you to play FW rather than public matches? Sp boosters that grant 25% more SP gain. That would be a way to get more SP but not more then spending actual money. maybe like 15k LP for a 3day active booster. They say when you die you see a white light which then forms the line of: "GAME OVER! PLEASE INSERT COIN"
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2114	Posted - 2014.08.23 10:38:00 - [42] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: Republic Core Specialist Flaylock Pistol Stats are taken from when it was OP. so you want the headshot modifier bug back in the game? (the reason the flaylock was OP was never its stats... its that all hits with it were counted as headshots and did way more damage then listed) Minmatar is Winmatar
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2724	Posted - 2014.08.23 10:57:00 - [43] - Quote Some good pyromancy would be.... wait... wrong game. A specialist ACR would be good as well. PSN: ogamega "Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items" LOCK REGIONS
TechMechMeds Level 5 Forum Warrior 5330	Posted - 2014.08.23 12:20:00 - [44] - Quote Haha. All of it, all the items. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172432&find=unread
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3144	Posted - 2014.08.23 13:45:00 - [45] - Quote Federation Commando.
taxi bastard uptown456 215	Posted - 2014.08.23 15:07:00 - [46] - Quote mini commando combat rifles - only have the specialist in the mini store
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 778	Posted - 2014.08.23 15:13:00 - [47] - Quote At the moment Amar Scout.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2014.08.23 15:15:00 - [48] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Honestly there's very little Gallente gear that interests me, so there isn't much. Probably variants on things that you wouldn't be able to get elsewhere, like an assault plasma cannon or something unique like that. I rarely use ARs and the scanners aren't great, so the unique aspects of the Gal store for me atm aren't really worth it. The Min store has some cool rep tools and the Amarr store has specialist SCRs, so I like getting those EDIT: I think a fully fleshed out store would be nice, though. ADSes would be good too. This is basically my situation too, i already have the proto variants of weapons and suits that i use, same with modules, the things that would get me into fw would have to be things that i can't just buy off the market .either assault and breach variants or possibly officer equipment .the factional titles that are being thought about elsewhere .or possibly if the fw gear was alot cheaper for cpu,pg or/and isk on another note though the charge variant sniper rifle and calsentinel, calmando etc are missing too
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 778	Posted - 2014.08.23 15:16:00 - [49] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Republic Core Specialist Flaylock Pistol Stats are taken from when it was OP. so you want the headshot modifier bug back in the game? (the reason the flaylock was OP was never its stats... its that all hits with it were counted as headshots and did way more damage then listed) LOL NO it was nerfed because of the damage and blast radius.
Symbioticforks Pure Evil. 699	Posted - 2014.08.23 15:22:00 - [50] - Quote If I could buy officer weapons with a ton of LP. I would buy boosters, and play faction warfare seriously. Sniping Dust 514 (video series)

Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 682	Posted - 2014.08.23 16:31:00 - [51] - Quote 'Real' faction mods/suits that have a unique benefit. similar to the scanners/reppers/hives/uplinks ect that we have but proto suits with perhaps bit extra PG/CPU/HP armor plates with reduced speed penalty, shield extenders that give few more hp, hacking modules with increased hack speed, ect ect Rolling with the punches
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 788	Posted - 2014.08.23 17:11:00 - [52] - Quote Shorter queue times, as of right now you literally have to rapid queue without hesitation to stay in the rotation once you get in your first match. Not that I mind terribly I'm usually looking to play a bunch when I decide to FW, but sometimes you cant queue right back up and then you get hit with the 10 minute wait timer. Gal high slot....any. Sentinels, Commandos, Scouts, Guns... A display of sucking that rivals the highest amount of sucking that a player has displayed in the history of sucking.-JR


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