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saxonmish
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
257
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:23:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:David Mustane wrote:with the first post, no one else was a problem less the komodo guy. I wasn't lagging but he wouldn't take damage, his partner sniper was. Oh wait. I know what happened. You have encountered THE HEAD GLITCHIt's not cheating, it's just crappy Hit Detection Mechanics and rendering issues. There are certain spots on the map where you can see the target, but can't actually hit them. Chances are, your bullet was going through an invisible hill that hadn't rendered. It's aggravating, but it also gives them a VERY limited field to fire from. And they also can't hit you half the time.
lol i typed the same thing i should probibly read the thread next time, its obviously the head glitch
SLAYER.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5739
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:29:00 -
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Newbs With Bewbs wrote:Lagwitch is only good for you if you're the host, if not it becomes detrimental. You are never the host on Dust as it's played on a server. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHEAT ON DUST, OR AT BEST CHEAT FOR A FEW DAYS THEN GET A PERMA BAN FOR HACKING INTO THEIR SERVER. #Knighsolairestopbullyingpeople
That's not how it works! You have to say 'Knight no trolling!' 3 times. OP called me a ****** cheater once because he's a big meanie poo.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
497
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:32:00 -
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Yeah I'd be willing to bank it was the head glitch. Nothing can really stop that aside from changing how the red line operates. I'm sure the guy was probably also in the red line.
I keep suggesting bullet barriers with red lines but, nope, everybody loves red lining too much and/or red line sniping. They lowered the scope zoom on the Thales so people can't use that excuse anymore. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9112
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:34:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Komodo Martins is a hacking cheater as well as anyone in Kinda new here.
Both of the listed where fired upon and took 0 damage. thats right zero damage with a 175% head shot
More to be listed as the day goes on,.
I'm going to ask you series of questions and I expect direct answers here.
When you were shooting at someone that didn't suffer any damage, did they happen to be far away on a hill? Were you trying to counter-snipe them? If so, that is not a hack. You're experiencing a known issue that is called head-glitching in which the sniper hides behind a hill but incidentally the hill is not properly rendered from the perspective of the player trying to counter-snipe. The sniper looks open to attack but is actually sitting behind a solid hill from his/her perspective.
Did you encounter these players head-on and up close? Lag is extremely likely to be the culprit. As others have pointed out, many players have crappy internet and sometimes even try to play on the North American server from as far east as Asia which only compounds the latency.
Did this happen during the past few days? It's also extremely likely to be the result of the DDoS Attack affecting the Tranquility Server which coincidentally started happening a day after SOMER Blink got shutdown after a series of questionable activities were brought to light. The DDoS attack resulted in diminished connection quality with the server and everyone connected to it.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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NAV HIV
The Generals Anime Empire.
2005
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:42:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:impossible. can't be done.
it was lag.
CCP is OP... Nerf em./... |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
1131
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:44:00 -
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I've had issues fairly recently with 'shooting' people and them not taking damage despite me getting hit indicators on them. However it's had to do with connections and the server and my client disagreeing on where people are and what they were doing and when those issues pop up the server wins. I've also had issues hacking or using magsec/rail rifle because things have disagreed on when they started.
For the amount of effort and knowledge it would take to actually 'hack' or 'cheat' in dust (beyond obvious stuff like modded controller inputs) any person with the capability to do so and get away with it for extensive lengths of time would be better off doing things like... oh stealing credit card info or working as a white-hat security or doing like... anything else that their skills and knowledge could be put to use for.
The last major incident with an actual 'hacker' in EVE involved the revealing of CCP members spawning well researched capital ship blueprint originals to secretly back the alliance their alts were in, and it was so scandalous that it caused the formation of the first CSM (and it almost killed eve). He was permabanned and the only reason he wasn't hauled off to some court and handed jail-time was because he lived in a place where they either couldn't extradite him or there weren't laws against what he had done.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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REDBACK96USMC
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2014.08.22 14:50:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:It's because people use lagswitches, I should know, I use them.
I use packet injection techniques to make all my shots register as head shots. How else do I get my KDR so insanely high?
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
227
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:51:00 -
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One day the guys who actually are "cheating" will be caught and dealt with, and it will be oh so sweet. Until then we have only a few effective options. Leave battle, tough it out, or try to record it and show CCP. When it is blaten bs I just leave. Not loosing suits to server lag, lag switching, head glitching, tanks that jump forward 50 meters to safety, guys who don't take dmg, etc. I finally got my HD pro to record matches, and next is my solid state drive. Trust me I will post to YouTube when I see epic bs. Just leave the match bro.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3536
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:54:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:no recording devices
then I will blast them on the forums until i get banned. lol
Good luck in that, mate.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
49
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:55:00 -
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Then we are all playing one hell of a broken game.
Its not just my Sniper rifle, my RR, my SL, and my AR, are all effected by this and at any range.
then this "lag" is intermediate, and seem to only happen when firing a weapon at certain people.
When the game lags I see what happens, people run in the air, through walls, and all that nonsense. My gun doesn't reload, or fire for that matter. I keep jumping back to a spot 20m.
What I'm speaking of here had none of the other issues that come with "server lag".
There is blantent cheating happening in dust. |
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5317
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:58:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Then we are all playing one hell of a broken game.
Its not just my Sniper rifle, my RR, my SL, and my AR, are all effected by this and at any range.
then this "lag" is intermediate, and seem to only happen when firing a weapon at certain people.
When the game lags I see what happens, people run in the air, through walls, and all that nonsense. My gun doesn't reload, or fire for that matter. I keep jumping back to a spot 20m.
What I'm speaking of here had none of the other issues that come with "server lag".
There is blantent cheating happening in dust.
Where are you from?.
Are you using dial up?.
Do you need the facts carved into your forehead?, you called me a cheater and i challenged you to report me. I beat your arse fair and square like most who fight you.
Stop claiming false allegations.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=172432&find=unread
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David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
49
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:10:00 -
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the US.
No Dial up, a DSL.
You are another one that just doesn't take damage when shot, so you are a ******* cheater. |
TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5317
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:14:00 -
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If someone was to start using an aimbot, it would last maybe about a month.
They'd have to hack their ps3 but the regular ish updates mean that it would be good for a month- two months tops. Or they could pay real money for a script.
It can be done so that the info going back to ccp's servers would think that its legitimate but again, they'd have to re hack every month and spend more money.
I'm pretty sure ccp is setup so that it can't be fooled by that sht anyway but im not 100% sure and regardless, no one is going to fork out about -ú200 for a new bot every month ish. That is about as much as it would cost as something as secure as ccp is and its a right fk about going through all that Tech so it would cost a lot.
Games like planetiside 2 are small fry for hacks and bots, its a simple system in comparison and goes through what i would call 'one layer of Tech'
INB4DDos attack, any scrub can spam.
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5317
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:15:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:the US.
No Dial up, a DSL.
You are another one that just doesn't take damage when shot, so you are a ******* cheater.
Hahahaha, you seeing this folks?.
and what exactly am i using to hack oh great one?.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1330
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:58:00 -
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lol @ OP
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9117
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:09:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I've had issues fairly recently with 'shooting' people and them not taking damage despite me getting hit indicators on them. However it's had to do with connections and the server and my client disagreeing on where people are and what they were doing and when those issues pop up the server wins. I've also had issues hacking or using magsec/rail rifle because things have disagreed on when they started.
For the amount of effort and knowledge it would take to actually 'hack' or 'cheat' in dust (beyond obvious stuff like modded controller inputs) any person with the capability to do so and get away with it for extensive lengths of time would be better off doing things like... oh stealing credit card info or working as a white-hat security or doing like... anything else that their skills and knowledge could be put to use for.
The last major incident with an actual 'hacker' in EVE involved the revealing of CCP members spawning well researched capital ship blueprint originals to secretly back the alliance their alts were in, and it was so scandalous that it caused the formation of the first CSM (and it almost killed eve). He was permabanned and the only reason he wasn't hauled off to some court and handed jail-time was because he lived in a place where they either couldn't extradite him or there weren't laws against what he had done.
That incident was also the reason why CCP implemented internal audits on the behavior of their employees. If you're a CCP employee and have an Eve account, you're going to have eyes watching over you to make sure you don't do what THAT GUY did before.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
9117
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:20:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I'm pretty sure ccp is setup so that it can't be fooled by that sht anyway but im not 100% sure and regardless, no one is going to fork out about -ú200 for a new bot every month ish. That is about as much as it would cost as something as secure as ccp is and its a right fk about going through all that Tech so it would cost a lot.
Tranquility Server, at least for Eve Online players, is a very strict and policed server. It doesn't accept what your client tells it what happened without first verifying what the client claims with what the server saw. I don't know how complex this is for Dust, but in Eve Online this is easy to manage for the server.
But there is something else to the server not many new players in Eve Online know about. Tranquility has the ability to report anything that is considered a red flag to the security team using behavior-pattern algorithms and tracking the market. New Eden's Big Brother so to speak. Every time you log in, you are tracked until you log out. Even your client is monitored for any data manipulation you made to it.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3539
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:24:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:the US.
No Dial up, a DSL.
You are another one that just doesn't take damage when shot, so you are a ******* cheater. Fiber Optic or GTFO
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1275
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:41:00 -
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They might not have been cheating, this game is a broken mess. Not too long ago I spent an entire dom match not being able to damage anyone nor could I be damaged. Hell, nobody could even see me because after I ran out of ammo I ran up to a big group of reds and started melee'ing people in the face but they didn't pay any attention to me. Everybody else was able to play the match just fine and went on killing, hacking, and ignoring me as if I wasn't even there.
Newbs With Bewbs wrote:
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHEAT ON DUST, OR AT BEST CHEAT FOR A FEW DAYS THEN GET A PERMA BAN FOR HACKING INTO THEIR SERVER.
There's probably more than a thousand glitches and broken mechanics in this broken game that can be exploited without the need for hacking. So yes, it is possible to cheat on Dust.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Kill Scotty
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
1267
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:43:00 -
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DSL is ****. You're most likely the source of the lag that you refer to as "cheating".
I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that ** is hilarious.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
357
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Posted - 2014.08.22 20:56:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:Komodo Martins is a hacking cheater as well as anyone in Kinda new here.
Both of the listed where fired upon and took 0 damage. thats right zero damage with a 175% head shot
More to be listed as the day goes on,. Sniper bug? Yes.. we have it for a while..
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Blunt Puffing
Pure Evil.
25
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:45:00 -
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The rail rifle also has a glitch where, if you fire it during certain points, it will appear to be firing rounds, but the ammo counter does not go down until a few seconds after.
Scout Since Uprising 1.0
Warming the hearts of others since 2011.
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vincent FF7 514
sephiroth clones
11
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Posted - 2014.08.22 21:48:00 -
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Man you must be twelve. Who cares? This game is dead and the care bear hotfixes arent going to change that. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
682
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Posted - 2014.08.22 22:34:00 -
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poor upload speeds, bad hit detection and also i have an old 60gb PS3 which runs Rogero and i like to keep an eye on any hack/mods for games i play on my online ps3 and i've not seen any valid hacks for DUST. all the sites claiming to have hacks are scam sites with no real proof of a working hack so you're gonna just have to face it that sometimes you just get unlucky
Rolling with the punches
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
228
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Posted - 2014.08.22 22:49:00 -
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Blunt Puffing wrote:The rail rifle also has a glitch where, if you fire it during certain points, it will appear to be firing rounds, but the ammo counter does not go down until a few seconds after.
I've seen this a couple of times. |
David Mustane
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
54
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:06:00 -
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Adding to the list of Cheaters:
Anyone in The Anarchy Effect, just never seem to take any damage from the entire team.
Dem Dirty Boys are lagging, cheaters as well just never took damage. |
Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
244
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:14:00 -
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David Mustane wrote:with the first post, no one else was a problem less the komodo guy. I wasn't lagging but he wouldn't take damage, his partner sniper was.
I assume that Komodo was a sniper then?
There are odd terrain glitches where it looks like you have line of fire at a headshot but there is actually terrain in the way.
On the flip side of Achilles Heeled (ankle shot) enough Redberries hiding behind CRUs to make up for it...
My take on 514:
Five Empires, One Dead, Four Alive
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TechMechMeds
Level 5 Forum Warrior
5326
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:30:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:I'm pretty sure ccp is setup so that it can't be fooled by that sht anyway but im not 100% sure and regardless, no one is going to fork out about -ú200 for a new bot every month ish. That is about as much as it would cost as something as secure as ccp is and its a right fk about going through all that Tech so it would cost a lot. Tranquility Server, at least for Eve Online players, is a very strict and policed server. It doesn't accept what your client tells it what happened without first verifying what the client claims with what the server saw. I don't know how complex this is for Dust, but in Eve Online this is easy to manage for the server. But there is something else to the server not many new players in Eve Online know about. Tranquility has the ability to report anything that is considered a red flag to the security team using behavior-pattern algorithms and tracking the market. New Eden's Big Brother so to speak. Every time you log in, you are tracked until you log out. Even your client is monitored for any data manipulation you made to it.
That's quality.
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Immortal John Ripper
24015
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:39:00 -
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Cheating is wrong.
Tenzin 4 Earth King
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General John Ripper
24015
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Posted - 2014.08.23 00:39:00 -
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Cheating is wrong.
Tenzin 4 Earth King
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