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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 574	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:25:00 - [1] - Quote faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1874	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:28:00 - [2] - Quote Well with that attitude...
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 3511	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:34:00 - [3] - Quote Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. Try the new Planetary Conquest Mode!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 574	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:35:00 - [4] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Well with that attitude... its not about attitude at all its just fact after spending most of the night on faction war.. it only seems to be weekends when it actually seems to have even a modicum of competent resistance against the main two blocs [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 574	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:37:00 - [5] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. i hope CCPs improved matchmakeing change stops Q-syncing.. btw as far as iv seen qSync is near impossable to do on cal/amarr as tbh too meny WTJers went gal/min so all thats left for Cal/am is newberrys or pubs [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Paran Tadec The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 2165	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:55:00 - [6] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. i hope CCPs improved matchmakeing change stops Q-syncing.. btw as far as iv seen qSync is near impossable to do on cal/amarr as tbh too meny WTJers went gal/min so all thats left for Cal/am is newberrys or pubs Quit crying. FW is one of the few areas that Qsyncing should be encouraged. Its an area for organized play, that doesnt suck like PC. It should even have 16 man team launching because Qsyncing doesnt always work. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 237	Posted - 2014.08.20 07:55:00 - [7] - Quote Caldari FW... I need my state assault ck.0, wyrko spesialist swarms and ishukone spesialist sniperrifles from LP store so I can fit 3X cmx damagemods, proto swarms, proto SR, plate and allotek hive(R) in my "neo"calcommado ck.0 Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
Defy Gravity G.L.O.R.Y 494	Posted - 2014.08.20 08:21:00 - [8] - Quote FW is supposed to be tough.... Blame the dang blueberrys! All of your questions will be answered Here
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 298	Posted - 2014.08.20 08:24:00 - [9] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. Legionhares Unite!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 574	Posted - 2014.08.20 09:25:00 - [10] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. iv done my time in Ishuk raata(i believe) back when they owned some nullsec space years ago.. RPing in eve/dust just dosnt feel right, atleast till WiS comes in to EVE. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah

CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1162	Posted - 2014.08.20 10:30:00 - [11] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss WAR ain't pretty. stick to public contacts cause there ain't no mercy to be shown for the caldari every game we are gunning for your squid head. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
VALCORE72 Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 208	Posted - 2014.08.20 10:34:00 - [12] - Quote yes grab 2 squads . you dont need to red line the other team just hold 3/4 of it . red line games are boring as all.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17251	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:00:00 - [13] - Quote I ran half a dozen Caldari games with a squad of 4 FA people the other day. Won every single match. With a squad of 4. We weren't even playing that well - one match a couple of squad members were bitching at each other in another channel so we had no proper comms for the match. I have no sympathy for people claiming "It's too hard." You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
Ryme Intrinseca Eurotrash Pubstars 1581	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:14:00 - [14] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss Nearly always guaranteed=not guaranteed. Sadly the lag is guaranteed.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 3090	Posted - 2014.08.20 11:16:00 - [15] - Quote When I go solo for Gallente, I mostly end up with berries on my team and lose. However, each time I squad (whether it's queued or not) with the A-Team, Caldari mostly always has the berries. I blame matchmaking.
Zindorak 1.U.P 645	Posted - 2014.08.20 12:49:00 - [16] - Quote No no no with amarr its a guaranteed win. screw Min and Cal gal and am are the only fw i do. If theres something inticing in min or cal i will do them Pokemon master
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 7321	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:19:00 - [17] - Quote FW has mo matchmaking. That's what the issue is but it isn't the problem. the problem is idiots going solo in FW and expecting the world at their fingertips. Well congrats, FW is about as close as some commoners will get to PC and even saying that is a stretch. Lucent Echelon -The Brightest Ranks Gallente Faction Warfare Chanel
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 396	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:30:00 - [18] - Quote 1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are. 4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1439	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:47:00 - [19] - Quote The Caldari are, in fact, terrible, this is a fact. But most of the bigger corps (ie PC corps) run steady Amarr FW (those LP links and everyone's obsession with Scramblers now), so saying the Amarr are a waste of time is a lie. I do run almost exclusively Minmatar, but that's what happens when you have pretty much only Minmatar suits (though I've started to dabble back into my Gallente). If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Cody Sietz Evzones 3872	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:55:00 - [20] - Quote Dude, I played Gallente the other night and we got our asses handed to us...twice! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 13:58:00 - [21] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Dude, I played Gallente the other night and we got our asses handed to us...twice! twice.. thats maybe 2 wins in 30 mins tops? the rest of the time you guys win ;p so thats what.. 30 mins out of maybe 8 to 12 hours of straight wins for gall? [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 84	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:11:00 - [22] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. What are you talking about. Pie tends to win matches. Hilariously. There's almost always ob support too. That said, when matches are lost, it is generally blueberries who lose them - either from not being in a squad, not knowing what to do, or not holding (or being able to hold) objectives. If you want to win FW, bring uplinks and don't be afraid to call out a few vehicles, or make a few friends. If a faction is winning it's because they have steady squads playing, I'm quite proud to say that the amarr have had the single most stable FW channel. The Caldari really have a rough time because A) blueberries and B) YOU GUYS MAKE A NEW **ING CHANNEL EVERY WEEK, Make one channel, get an eve player to operate it, kick spies and awoxers, congrats you guys will now win facwar. ResistanceGTA wrote:** The Caldari are, in fact, terrible, this is a fact. But most of the bigger corps (ie PC corps) run steady Amarr FW (those LP links and everyone's obsession with Scramblers now), so saying the Amarr are a waste of time is a lie. I have something like 80,000 unspent amarr LP. The only things I'd buy with it are proto suits and specialist viziam lasers. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1231	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:14:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: When I go solo for Gallente, I mostly end up with berries on my team and lose. However, each time I squad (whether it's queued or not) with the A-Team, Caldari mostly always has the berries. Truth. I don't always blap Infantry with a Forge Gun, but when I do, that ** is hilarious.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:22:00 - [24] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. What are you talking about. Pie tends to win matches. Hilariously. There's almost always ob support too. That said, when matches are lost, it is generally blueberries who lose them - either from not being in a squad, not knowing what to do, or not holding (or being able to hold) objectives. If you want to win FW, bring uplinks and don't be afraid to call out a few vehicles. im a logi, i bring more then enough support then 4 people or 2 scouts can (reffering to equipment slots) plenty of people spawn vehicles anyway but i get into the filth waste deep to perform the 5 R's of LogiBro-ness but even i know 1 person cannot carry an entire team to victory when the team equates to something a-kin to wrangling cats with out the aid of milk or fishy treats or chicken......which whenever i seem to have gone amarr or caldari seems to be the case. usually blue on blue action and/or the opposing force has complete domination, no close matches or anything.. but that being said when i went minmatar for the short time i was doing it we won all games near flawlessly with little challenge(aka boring) for atleast 5 rounds, at which time i bought a bunch of proto FW dropsuits and took a break.. so all in all FW is in a bleak state of affares even if the underdogs manage to get a couple wins in a row its a sparrows tear in a bucket of water in comparason.. match makeing needs updateing so Queue syncing cannot be done. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:23:00 - [25] - Quote RYN0CER0S wrote: Joel II X wrote: When I go solo for Gallente, I mostly end up with berries on my team and lose. However, each time I squad (whether it's queued or not) with the A-Team, Caldari mostly always has the berries. Truth. not true. i pub-scrubed my way in winmatar fw and we had several wins in a row before i got bored and took a break [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:24:00 - [26] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: FW is supposed to be tough.... Blame the dang blueberrys! by blueberrys i mean teammates not caldari.. but fact of the matter is people hate to lose so they always sign up as gal or min for near guarenteed wins [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:25:00 - [27] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Jadek Menaheim wrote: Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. i hope CCPs improved matchmakeing change stops Q-syncing.. btw as far as iv seen qSync is near impossable to do on cal/amarr as tbh too meny WTJers went gal/min so all thats left for Cal/am is newberrys or pubs Quit crying. FW is one of the few areas that Qsyncing should be encouraged. Its an area for organized play, that doesnt suck like PC. It should even have 16 man team launching because Qsyncing doesnt always work. queue syncing is just an exploit to circumvent matchmaker [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:28:00 - [28] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: 1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are. 4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. #2 needs to be "fixed" as for #4 loseing constantly or winning with out effort is not FUN in my book [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:30:00 - [29] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: The Caldari are, in fact, terrible, this is a fact. But most of the bigger corps (ie PC corps) run steady Amarr FW (those LP links and everyone's obsession with Scramblers now), so saying the Amarr are a waste of time is a lie. I do run almost exclusively Minmatar, but that's what happens when you have pretty much only Minmatar suits (though I've started to dabble back into my Gallente). the FOTM chasters already found ScR still blows even on the uber Amarr assault suits so yeah.. spent a couple hours on my amarr baby-logi alt and nothign but 100% loss with out hostile team even going into armor on their mcc and alot of the time their mcc still had 50% or more shield [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6557	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:31:00 - [30] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are. 4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. #2 needs to be "fixed" as for #4 loseing constantly or winning with out effort is not FUN in my book FW is basically PC light. Why do you think FF is turned on? Why do you think there are better rewards? You want the good stuff? Be willing to risk for it. Put some good gear and ISK on the line. FA's Stabber Extraordinaire Minmatar Enthusiast Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!

Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 84	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:32:00 - [31] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: im a logi, i bring more then enough support then 4 people or 2 scouts can (reffering to equipment slots) plenty of people spawn vehicles anyway but i get into the filth waste deep to perform the 5 R's of LogiBro-ness but even i know 1 person cannot carry an entire team to victory when the team equates to something a-kin to wrangling cats with out the aid of milk or fishy treats or chicken......which whenever i seem to have gone amarr or caldari seems to be the case. usually blue on blue action and/or the opposing force has complete domination, no close matches or anything.. but that being said when i went minmatar for the short time i was doing it we won all games near flawlessly with little challenge(aka boring) for atleast 5 rounds, at which time i bought a bunch of proto FW dropsuits and took a break.. so all in all FW is in a bleak state of affares even if the underdogs manage to get a couple wins in a row its a sparrows tear in a bucket of water in comparason.. match makeing needs updateing so Queue syncing cannot be done. All I'm seeing is QQ. Equipment is one step towards winning a match, but you still need to be willing to do the things that need doing as soon as you notice them, because if you don't no one else will. Rooftop uplinks? Best get up there and kill them. Vehicles? Better have a swarm launcher. No one holding an objective? Switch to a scout suit and lurk (in fact if you want to play solo in FW scouts are a great option and commando's with av secondaries work very well too). As far as queue syncing goes - It isn't the reason you're losing, nor is it the reason the enemy team is winning, claiming that is is a pathetic excuse. A single good squad can win faction warfare quite easily. I've seen plenty of matches where 2 full squads ran into one 4 man squad and got destroyed. Queue syncing to me is a non issue - if you want to do it okay whatever but I typically find it more economical to have squads affiliated with my faction in different matches so that we're taking more ground than the other faction. And FYI having 4 equipment slots is meaningless - I'd rather have 4 players with basic drop uplinks creating multiple reinforcement routes. Logi's can be a great role and asset to the team, but they function best in squads, a solo logi will almost never impact FW, but a solo scout defending a point (particularly an amarr or gallente scout) is an absolute ****ing terror. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:35:00 - [32] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: im a logi, i bring more then enough support then 4 people or 2 scouts can (reffering to equipment slots) plenty of people spawn vehicles anyway but i get into the filth waste deep to perform the 5 R's of LogiBro-ness but even i know 1 person cannot carry an entire team to victory when the team equates to something a-kin to wrangling cats with out the aid of milk or fishy treats or chicken......which whenever i seem to have gone amarr or caldari seems to be the case. usually blue on blue action and/or the opposing force has complete domination, no close matches or anything.. but that being said when i went minmatar for the short time i was doing it we won all games near flawlessly with little challenge(aka boring) for atleast 5 rounds, at which time i bought a bunch of proto FW dropsuits and took a break.. so all in all FW is in a bleak state of affares even if the underdogs manage to get a couple wins in a row its a sparrows tear in a bucket of water in comparason.. match makeing needs updateing so Queue syncing cannot be done. All I'm seeing is QQ. Equipment is one step towards winning a match, but you still need to be willing to do the things that need doing as soon as you notice them, because if you don't no one else will. Rooftop uplinks? Best get up there and kill them. Vehicles? Better have a swarm launcher. No one holding an objective? Switch to a scout suit and lurk (in fact if you want to play solo in FW scouts are a great option and commando's with av secondaries work very well too). As far as queue syncing goes - It isn't the reason you're losing, nor is it the reason the enemy team is winning. A single good squad can win faction warfare quite easily. I've seen plenty of matches where 2 full squads ran into one 4 man squad and got destroyed. And FYI having 4 equipment slots is meaningless - I'd rather have 4 players with basic drop uplinks creating multiple reinforcement routes. Logi's can be a great role and asset to the team, but they function best in squads, a solo logi will almost never impact FW, but a solo scout defending a point (particularly an amarr or gallente scout) is an absolute **ing terror. i do what i can even playing "sapper" but like i said.. in previous posts Queue syncing just kills FW and on top of that the imbalance of players (more higher sp players in gal/min) leaves just die hards and low sp-ers to pad the numbers aka bend over and take a loss in the A just so the gal and min FWers can rub one out and feel good about how they won with out even loseing 25% of their shields or what ever [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah**
Malleus Malificorum Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 84	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:42:00 - [33] - Quote Queue syncing doesn't affect anything. You play solo and expect to have an impact and you are wrong to expect that because a single squad has far more impact than 10 solo players (unless they're all people like Mr Mustard). Any one squad of decent players with a good sense of how a battle flows will beat the snot out of 2 synced squads, unless they're synced squads of badasses, which you could still easily end up with even without queue syncing. The problem isn't with queue syncing. It's with your idea that you can accomplish things going it solo. Solo logi's are worthless - Having four equipment slots isn't anything amazing because you can't be in four places on the map placing uplinks at once. If you want to win, you need to interact with other people who also want to win FW. If you want to be a pubstar solo logi, stick to ambush where you can earn 2billion points from 2 uplinks. You want to complain about blueberries? If you're not in a squad you are one. Weep not poor children, For life is this way, Murdering beauty and passion.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:43:00 - [34] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Mejt0 wrote: 1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are. 4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. #2 needs to be "fixed" as for #4 loseing constantly or winning with out effort is not FUN in my book FW is basically PC light. Why do you think FF is turned on? Why do you think there are better rewards? You want the good stuff? Be willing to risk for it. Put some good gear and ISK on the line. i do.. L4 logi gear and proto LP suit is best i can atm but despite this it always seems; at least when ever i decide to do FW, that cal and amarr always lose and by a big margin.. iv yet to experance one of these fabled "WINs" for cal or amarr.. as for amarr and cal i run them on my just barely advanced gear baby logis with L3 gear tho i have tried with my main logi too and still no difference in the result. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
I-Shayz-I I----------I 4611	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:46:00 - [35] - Quote I actually got a winning streak with Caldari during the day rather than late at night when I would usually play. It's more about interest in the game mode that is the issue. I'm guessing that if there was caldari scout dropsuits and the racial sentinels in the faction store more people would actually play. Heck, Amarr has FOUR different dropsuits in their store...I don't see why it wouldn't be more popular. It also has a much more dedicated channel than minmatar. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:50:00 - [36] - Quote Malleus Malificorum wrote: Queue syncing doesn't affect anything. You play solo and expect to have an impact and you are wrong to expect that because a single squad has far more impact than 10 solo players (unless they're all people like Mr Mustard). Any one squad of decent players with a good sense of how a battle flows will beat the snot out of 2 synced squads, unless they're synced squads of badasses, which you could still easily end up with even without queue syncing. The problem isn't with queue syncing. It's with your idea that you can accomplish things going it solo. Solo logi's are worthless - Having four equipment slots isn't anything amazing because you can't be in four places on the map placing uplinks at once. If you want to win, you need to interact with other people who also want to win FW. If you want to be a pubstar logi, stick to ambush where you can earn 2billion points from 2 uplinks. You want to complain about blueberries? You are one. your thinking im running liek a solo slayer logi of old.. and i dont always solo thats when im on my baby alts that i sometimes solo cause they got less to lose and i highly doubt meny single squads will beat Q-syncers and i hate ambush.. and fyi noobcakes uplinks in ambush can cause more deaths/losses cause smart deploy dosnt take into account hostiles camping uplinks, i prefer hives reps and rezzes, keeping my peeps alive is more important then letting them die just to come back and die again.. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1265	Posted - 2014.08.20 14:57:00 - [37] - Quote If it makes you feel better the Gallente were getting their dicks kicked in for a couple of hours yesterday. At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard. Kill Scotty
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:02:00 - [38] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I actually got a winning streak with Caldari during the day rather than late at night when I would usually play. It's more about interest in the game mode that is the issue. I'm guessing that if there was caldari scout dropsuits and the racial sentinels in the faction store more people would actually play. Heck, Amarr has FOUR different dropsuits in their store...I don't see why it wouldn't be more popular. It also has a much more dedicated channel than minmatar. as much as id like to agree with you shayz this FW thing stems from the EVE-O meta of gallente and minmatar winnning / being dominant in FW there too.. as for amar having the dropsuits.. yes i did wonder that but still nothing but losses when i have been there on my amarr alt..or caldari fw losses when on caldari alt.. and with how seeming OP amarr assault is atm i would have thought the FOTM chasers would have already been grinding amarr like a horny jack Russel humps legs. as for the caldari win streak.. thats still a drop in the ocean.. like one guy said gallente got beaten a whole 2 times Woooo.. thats nothing when gall win pretty much constantly save the rare times they drop the ball of which i believe is probably aorund the time you must have been running cal-fw shayz i guess im frustrated at the fact being curb stomped or being on the team handing out the curb stomp just dosnt feel fun in the slightest, i do have more fun in normal matchmakeing because i have had some great games which have been really down to the wire.. as for FW i do like there being friendly fire as it adds a whole other level of difficulty while i can appreciate. even if ccp was to populate all the factions LP stores with all the items it still wouldnt make much differance i bet as EVE meta knocks on into Dust meta so it would still be gal and min shrugging off cal and amarrs once in a blue moon victory(s) [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:08:00 - [39] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: If it makes you feel better the Gallente were getting their dicks kicked in for a couple of hours yesterday. tbh it dosnt.. i would prefer a good hard fight where it actually feels like every CRU hacked.. every uplink popped.. every person repped up to full.. placing down ammo in good locations (not around the supply silo).. throwing out scans.. rezzing people.. where every little bit makes it feel like your helping to WIN.. and not just being a Fluffer for Egos, which sadly is the case like 90% of the time if not more. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
zzZaXxx D3ATH CARD 425	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:16:00 - [40] - Quote OP you should never go into FW without a full squad. Preferably queu sync two.

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:20:00 - [41] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OP you should never go into FW without a full squad. Preferably queu sync two. queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system. as for joining squads i do "hot-drop" into squads with free room but if its on cal/amarr side it always seems to be a complete pushed back to the MCC type fight.. or even worse we dont even get to cap a single thing.. that is why cal and amarr fw hardly have any good players.. its cause they all join min/gal cause they too are sick of being steamrolled. [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17257	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:23:00 - [42] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system. 'Matchmaking system'. There isn't one. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 577	Posted - 2014.08.20 15:26:00 - [43] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system. 'Matchmaking system'. There isn't one. i seem to recall ccp mentioning they were working on the queue syncing "issue" tho fo them that could mean months while were only receiving hotfixes [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6586	Posted - 2014.08.21 19:31:00 - [44] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: I actually got a winning streak with Caldari during the day rather than late at night when I would usually play. It's more about interest in the game mode that is the issue. I'm guessing that if there was caldari scout dropsuits and the racial sentinels in the faction store more people would actually play. Heck, Amarr has FOUR different dropsuits in their store...I don't see why it wouldn't be more popular. It also has a much more dedicated channel than minmatar. We have a channel? I thought they all died. Send me a message in game for the channel. I'll join. Been Merc'ing for the Gallente for the past week. FA's Stabber Extraordinaire Minmatar Enthusiast Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 381	Posted - 2014.08.21 20:08:00 - [45] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: RPing in eve/dust just dosnt feel right, atleast till WiS comes in to EVE. Don't hold your breath
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13005	Posted - 2014.08.21 20:50:00 - [46] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss I don't remember loosing a single Amarr FW match when PCLAS gets on the field. It's really a shame FW is not a ****** up farmville, that remains a pointless endeavour with no tangible benefits what so ever for a broken, half finished game. When any of you start working EVE side let me know.... I might decide to care. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 17322	Posted - 2014.08.21 20:50:00 - [47] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss I don't remember loosing a single Amarr FW match when PCLAS gets on the field. It's really a shame FW is not a ****** up farmville, that remains a pointless endeavour with no tangible benefits what so ever for a broken, half finished game. When any of you start working EVE side let me know.... I might decide to care. I lost one with you on my side. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 853	Posted - 2014.08.21 20:51:00 - [48] - Quote We win roughly 85 out of every 100 Amarr battles. We take 12 people minimum into roughly 90 out of every 100 battles. We bring orbital support to roughly 70 out of every 100 battles. Coincidence? NO, Teamwork is certainly OP and should be nerfed immediately. If going into Amarr please take a minimum of 6 people as it is really not cool having all these randoms giving away our districts while we are busy taking more. If you need a Q-Sync channel for Amarr feel free to message me.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13005	Posted - 2014.08.21 21:09:00 - [49] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss I don't remember loosing a single Amarr FW match when PCLAS gets on the field. It's really a shame FW is not a ****** up farmville, that remains a pointless endeavour with no tangible benefits what so ever for a broken, half finished game. When any of you start working EVE side let me know.... I might decide to care. I lost one with you on my side. You do Amarr FW? When? "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4330	Posted - 2014.08.21 21:26:00 - [50] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: OP you should never go into FW without a full squad. Preferably queu sync two. queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system. as for joining squads i do "hot-drop" into squads with free room but if its on cal/amarr side it always seems to be a complete pushed back to the MCC type fight.. or even worse we dont even get to cap a single thing.. that is why cal and amarr fw hardly have any good players.. its cause they all join min/gal cause they too are sick of being steamrolled. What about "there is no matchmaking in FW" are you not understanding? Do we need to get crayons out? Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3892	Posted - 2014.08.21 21:48:00 - [51] - Quote 1) Join channel 2) Don't play for the Amarr during daytime hours in the US (for whatever reason, that's been a losing proposition as long as I can remember) 3) ???? 4) Profit Admittedly, 8 months ago, if you weren't rolling with PCLAS or Cubs, you were screwed in Amarr FW. But, with a recent influx of talent like Deezy's crew, nighttime in the US continues to be pretty much a steamroll for the Empire. (and yes, sorry to say it True, the winning percentage is pretty high, but I remember some losses in squads with you. Hell, I even lost 2 in a row with Cubs' squad on the field one night. That was shocking to say the least, but it was against 15 Ultramarines so I guess it shouldn't have been) As for Caldari, well, sometimes Hellstorm and a couple guys from my corp play there and I can get a good fight with them. Otherwise, yeah, it's kindof a lost cause. Malleus' comment about the lack of a single channel was hilariously accurate. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 856	Posted - 2014.08.21 21:50:00 - [52] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: OP you should never go into FW without a full squad. Preferably queu sync two. queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system. as for joining squads i do "hot-drop" into squads with free room but if its on cal/amarr side it always seems to be a complete pushed back to the MCC type fight.. or even worse we dont even get to cap a single thing.. that is why cal and amarr fw hardly have any good players.. its cause they all join min/gal cause they too are sick of being steamrolled. What about "there is no matchmaking in FW" are you not understanding? Do we need to get crayons out? LOL some people dont bother to look at how something works before griping. FW match CREATION as it could be better called is built almost specifically to support q-syncing. You are able to choose which side of the battle you want and priority for entering the match is given to squads. Feel free to search past dev blogs to confirm this. If you want matchmaking go back to pubs. If you want a fight get a real group of players together and go hope that someone has done the same on the opposite side. I left all my crayons out in the sun so I had to just type it instead.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 858	Posted - 2014.08.21 22:00:00 - [53] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: 1) Join channel 2) Don't play for the Amarr during daytime hours in the US (for whatever reason, that's been a losing proposition as long as I can remember) 3) ???? 4) Profit Admittedly, 8 months ago, if you weren't rolling with PCLAS or Cubs, you were screwed in Amarr FW. But, with a recent influx of talent like Deezy's crew, nighttime in the US continues to be pretty much a steamroll for the Empire. (and yes, sorry to say it True, the winning percentage is pretty high, but I remember some losses in squads with you. Hell, I even lost 2 in a row with Cubs' squad on the field one night. That was shocking to say the least, but it was against 15 Ultramarines so I guess it shouldn't have been) As for Caldari, well, sometimes Hellstorm and a couple guys from my corp play there and I can get a good fight with them. Otherwise, yeah, it's kindof a lost cause. Malleus' comment about the lack of a single channel was hilariously accurate. Blush..... hahaha I operate on a simple premise that 3 things are necessary for a win in this game. In order of importance: 1. Numbers (more players coordinating than on the opposite side) 2. Coordination 3. Gear (aka SP) In factional 2 of these 3 things MUST exist or you are wasting your time. Obviously in PC that would be different due to the fact that all 3 have been obtained and the right equipment must be used to form a complete team as well as having skilled players.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 3892	Posted - 2014.08.21 22:03:00 - [54] - Quote That said, you may not have noticed, but I only use ADV level gear other than some of my logi equipment. The other 2 are pretty important though. (and you're welcome) Also, I agree with you that we don't need matchmaking per se in FW, but, lets be honest, there is no matchmaking in pubs. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 858	Posted - 2014.08.21 22:11:00 - [55] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: That said, you may not have noticed, but I only use ADV level gear other than some of my logi equipment. The other 2 are pretty important though. (and you're welcome) Also, I agree with you that we don't need matchmaking per se in FW, but, lets be honest, there is no matchmaking in pubs. Gear is third because it only comes into play as something needed if one of the other principles fall short. Also, agreed matchmaking in pubs is a rouse at best in most cases but it is an attempt because it is meant to be there. This is why on a weekly basis I run 10-15 pubs maximum and 40-50 factionals minimum. Soon we will have our daytime crew back running at its former glory as well so that we can keep things on track taking districts faster than randoms can give them back. The influx to FW brought by Charlie forced some alterations to my plans which will come to light over the next couple of weeks.
ImIvan 3	Posted - 2014.08.22 00:04:00 - [56] - Quote Meh, I just hate how you get crap for losing. Either the other side runs proto, or your side does. Why must you use prototypes?


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