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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:42:00 -
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What the hell, CCP? I take two scout-y steps and everyone starts walking forward for 5 minutes, through objects, or ascending into Amarrian heaven. Two more steps, and it's rinse and repeat.
I'll see you all in Delta (will still sign in to read fan mail and daily SP, though). |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
411
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:44:00 -
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Someone is cheating when that happens bro.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2187
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:45:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Someone is cheating when that happens bro.
explain
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:45:00 -
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It is especially fun when you are near the redline, then suddenly you die.
It really is getting bad. Its in most, if not every game now it seems.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
556
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:47:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:It is especially fun when you are near the redline, then suddenly you die.
It really is getting bad. Its in most, if not every game now it seems.
seems the haxxor kiddies be useing butthurt lag switches
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
411
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:47:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Someone is cheating when that happens bro. explain
I splain nothing to a goonfeet monkey. Use your brain bro.
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2188
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:50:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Someone is cheating when that happens bro. explain I splain nothing to a goonfeet monkey. Use your brain bro.
Always do. If it's someone cheating and you have evidence, spell it out very clearly so we can potentially draw Dev attention to the issue and perhaps have cheaters banned. |
zzZaXxx
D3ATH CARD
424
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:52:00 -
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Lag was so bad today :( |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
411
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:55:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Someone is cheating when that happens bro. explain I splain nothing to a goonfeet monkey. Use your brain bro. Always do. If it's someone cheating and you have evidence, spell it out very clearly so we can potentially draw Dev attention to the issue and perhaps have cheaters banned.
Ok. Then I dont need to explain when the symptom leads directly to the method of cheating thats happened in the likes of COD, BF, Halo etc.
Also c'mon you goon we know CCP moves at the speed of sleepy turtle
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howard sanchez
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:59:00 -
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I am somewhat relieved to hear that the stuttering frame rates and rubber banding I've been experiencing is not just on my side. How many other players experience this's frequently?
I know there won't be a fix or even an explanation for the cause because ccp doesn't really support this game but it's good to know it's not just me
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2189
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Posted - 2014.08.17 21:59:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Someone is cheating when that happens bro. explain I splain nothing to a goonfeet monkey. Use your brain bro. Always do. If it's someone cheating and you have evidence, spell it out very clearly so we can potentially draw Dev attention to the issue and perhaps have cheaters banned. Ok. Then I dont need to explain when the symptom leads directly to the method of cheating thats happened in the likes of COD, BF, Halo etc. Also c'mon you goon we know CCP moves at the speed of sleepy turtle
I am not a console gamer. DUST is the only game I bother with, and even then the touch of the console sickens me.
I am unfamiliar with the mechanics, symptoms and effects of lag switches. I am more familiar with headshot scripts and wall transparency hacks, having been on the receiving end of them frequently in PC games.
And to answer the poster above, yes, I see it every morning about 5-10 AM Pacific time, not consistently, and nearly always in ambush maps. |
bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
922
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:02:00 -
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happens one in every 15 or 20 matches for me
Eternal Beings - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
49
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:28:00 -
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I only ever get lag when my internet goes haywire, it's never their side. Bro, don't leave; I had fun squadding with you! Check your server settings, I have mine on automatic, works fine for me!
Well, I once meleed an R.E....
I've only ever known 1.8...
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
1074
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:29:00 -
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lol it's not lag switching, it's next to impossible for a game with (crappy) dedicated servers.
I talked to the guys at CCP myself. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:31:00 -
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FYI Lagswitches don't work when games revolve around a central server.
The reason they work for other FPS games is that one of the players is used a server, then that player can use a lag switch and cheat.
If I am mistaken, I am more than happy to hear what really happens, but this is my understanding of how lag switches operate.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Fizzer XCIV
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:32:00 -
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Oh. That's just the daylag bug. You have to biomass to stop it from getting worse. If you don't, the lag will become worse and worse, until you are 20 seconds behind at all times. |
noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
1749
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:35:00 -
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Oh lag better run over to that silo for cover till it sorts its self out.
NOPE. Rubber band back to your spot.
uhhhh, try again.
NOPE. Rubber band back to your spot.
oh god let me move!
NOPE.
zeus help me!
NOPE.
satan you owe me!
lag ends you die to a milita ar.
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Bollacks.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
412
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Posted - 2014.08.17 22:53:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Hurr durr I talks to devs guise, I'm kewl
Bros, if it isn't lag switching then what is it? The same symptoms of lag switching that happens in other games, happens in Dust. It's weird that when you start winning a match, all of sudden people are walking on air and shots fired are not landing. Then boom, you see a kill screen.
Either they are not admitting to the problem or they don't know what it is dude. It is some kind of cheat. It's apparent that the upload/download is disrupted, reason why people are walking on air and firing shots that don't land.
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
1076
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:09:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:i liek to edit quote i so awsme
I said, it's impossible on (crappy) dedicated servers, let me explain for you.
Dedicated servers is the alternative to player-hosted games. With dedicated servers you cannot control anyones connection except your own. With player-hosted servers players can stop the upload on their router so everyone freezes except himself, but you have to be host.
Edit: sorry, to answer your question, it's cause CCP is too cheap to buy decent servers. |
Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
412
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:18:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:You goddamned right Krixus Flux is awesome!
Dude, some information is missing here. Never in my life have I played on a dedicated server that has symptoms of a lag switching component affecting the upload/download. The walking on air is an example of this bro. It shows that the upload has been disrupted and the download has not completed. So how is this some minor bug on a dedicated server that would cause such?
The disruption shows there is some outside interference to cause such. The walking on air, firing at targets that react with shield effects, and the teleportation shows this to be true.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11784
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:23:00 -
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Lag switches in DUST only hurt the user.
One of the benefits of dedicated servers.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:27:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:You goddamned right Krixus Flux is awesome! Dude, some information is missing here. Never in my life have I played on a dedicated server that has symptoms of a lag switching component affecting the upload/download. The walking on air is an example of this bro. It shows that the upload has been disrupted and the download has not completed. So how is this some minor bug on a dedicated server that would cause such? The disruption shows there is some outside interference to cause such. The walking on air, firing at targets that react with shield effects, and the teleportation shows this to be true.
Then please explain to us how an FPS with a central server can be affected by lag switches?
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
413
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:29:00 -
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Bro, no one is addressing why a dedicated server is having upload/download disruptions. No one.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
413
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:30:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:You goddamned right Krixus Flux is awesome! Dude, some information is missing here. Never in my life have I played on a dedicated server that has symptoms of a lag switching component affecting the upload/download. The walking on air is an example of this bro. It shows that the upload has been disrupted and the download has not completed. So how is this some minor bug on a dedicated server that would cause such? The disruption shows there is some outside interference to cause such. The walking on air, firing at targets that react with shield effects, and the teleportation shows this to be true. Then please explain to us how an FPS with a central server can be affected by lag switches?
LOL I see why you call yourself one eye bro
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M1A1 Blaster Master
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
24
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:41:00 -
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I like that people think there is a difference between P2P and a dedicated server. A server is a server is a server is a server. They can all be cheated and corrupted. |
xavier zor
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:42:00 -
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I know right. I clearly am aiming straight at an enemy with my Bolt Pistol, shoot and no health is taken off him. CCP dedicate some money into coding and decent servers. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
561
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:16:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
I am not a console gamer. DUST is the only game I bother with, and even then the touch of the console sickens me.
I am unfamiliar with the mechanics, symptoms and effects of lag switches. I am more familiar with headshot scripts and wall transparency hacks, having been on the receiving end of them frequently in PC games.
And to answer the poster above, yes, I see it every morning about 5-10 AM Pacific time, not consistently, and nearly always in ambush maps.
basic premise of lagswitch is you have the 4 basic cables for the data flow.. the lag switch is to turn off one of the 2 outflow cables ( i think) for a breif time causeing your charater to lag for the other person but your fine on your side due to no interupted IN flow of data pertaining to the hostile so you can easly flip it on when you start getting shot turn around and pewpew turn it off done.. or something to that description.. theres meny videos about it on youtube.
PS.. iv seen bot players in some maps that are just occationally squatting or doing a single attack just flocked around a spawn point.. last one was 3 charaters of which i believe 2 were the BPO starter AV suits and 1 in a frontline suit again starter BPO.. on an urban map with all the tall ish flat roofed buildings.. like a white complex.. anyway.. it was at the Clone spawn unit at one of the lesser frequented areas.. so i popped all 3 of em and hacked the CRU cause i dont need to farm afk isk/sp farming bots
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:20:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:I know right. I clearly am aiming straight at an enemy with my Bolt Pistol, shoot and no health is taken off him. CCP dedicate some money into coding and decent servers.
it wont if people use lag switches to intentionally disrupt the data flow to cause higher latency to not get hit
the code and servers are fine its trans atlantic latency
ie
US players->asia server
or Asia players -> us server
at peak times being a UK/EU player i do feel a little hit to my latency when i play on US server
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
1292
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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:27:00 -
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I only get extreme lag in FW.
My guess is because its a more open system so more players with genuinely higher latency can join in. Also it seems to be far worse when Eve support is added into the mix
"The air smells damp and oppressive, like a wet nun"
"Why am I talking to a lightbulb? Illuminate me"
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3476
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Posted - 2014.08.21 19:15:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:One Eyed King wrote:Krixus Flux wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:You goddamned right Krixus Flux is awesome! Dude, some information is missing here. Never in my life have I played on a dedicated server that has symptoms of a lag switching component affecting the upload/download. The walking on air is an example of this bro. It shows that the upload has been disrupted and the download has not completed. So how is this some minor bug on a dedicated server that would cause such? The disruption shows there is some outside interference to cause such. The walking on air, firing at targets that react with shield effects, and the teleportation shows this to be true. Then please explain to us how an FPS with a central server can be affected by lag switches? LOL I see why you call yourself one eye bro
Way to avoid a direct question and demonstrate you don't have any evidence whatsoever and are a waste of space on the forums.
Come back when you have some real evidence and facts backing you up.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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