Dust is not competitive, too many broken game mechanics and imbalance

Not trolling either, I think this is a very interesting topic.

What do you feel brings the amount of unprofessional whining not typically seen in other communities in regards to balance? Plenty of games are not very balanced, but only in the Dust community do you see such a large amount of teenage angst surface in what are theoretically full grown adults.

Dust is not competitive, too many broken game mechanics and imbalance

Dust is a shooter (skills based game) and also an mmo (time and investment based game) this game is not all skill, that's a fact. That means some people can be more competitive without being as good as the person they are beating because of skill bonuses from suits, ehp, and weapon damage output. There IS a lot of skill involved but time played and role chosen affect performance as well. It makes sense that people would complain more here as opposed to a game forum like say, league of legends where the game is entirely skill based beside earning runes which everyone is able to do relatively quickly.

Dust is a shooter (skills based game) and also an mmo (time and investment based game) this game is not all skill, that's a fact. That means some people can be more competitive without being as good as the person they are beating because of skill bonuses from suits, ehp, and weapon damage output. There IS a lot of skill involved but time played and role chosen affect performance as well. It makes sense that people would complain more here as opposed to a game forum like say, league of legends where the game is entirely skill based beside earning runes which everyone is able to do relatively quickly.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that these forums are probably the most mature that i have ever witnessed for an online game. Especially compared to LoL or any asian style mmorpg forum. Where most people give unrelated answers to legit questions to try and get a laugh or an upvote.

I say the level of whining here is higher than any other game/simulator I have ever been in throughout my life. Of course, some of the whining is warranted like when people complained about the proto SL change as the new reticule for the sniper rifle, but I'm talking about whiners who whine for no reason other than to just whine and you see them whining over things that are not even or are no longer game breaking.

Because the DEVs actually listen to feedback?

Not trolling either, I think this is a very interesting topic.

What do you feel brings the amount of unprofessional whining not typically seen in other communities in regards to balance? Plenty of games are not very balanced, but only in the Dust community do you see such a large amount of teenage angst surface in what are theoretically full grown adults.

Wait really? No really? What's next, we've confirmed the existence of the Lockness monster now? If we assume they listened to the community feedback and researched it, the game wouldn't be in this condition at all. Massive updates with now Dust limited to just hot fixes means they're not so much listening to what the feedback is but basically keeping the ship from sinking. If this game were a ship, it'd be the Titan after hitting an iceberg where everyone in charge is calm and collective and unable to **** bricks as to the horrible fate awaiting them. This ship WILL sink and it's not a case of "if" but "when". Anyone since launch knows the litany of rants that have plagued this game.

And while I agree the playerbase doesn't always knows what's best, the same can be said of the developers too. And unless i take Rat's words out of context, hotfixes and no updates means they can only do so much to effect the game dynamics. The fact that we're still tweaking game balance a year into the game isn't a positive sign in any way, shape or form.


The old counter strike community....They probably created the first ever rage quits and memes on it before anyone. They're probably on the top 3 of all-time youtube worthy moments even. The difference is that a lot of ppl have had time to adjust to raging since then. It's not like it's disappeared but has only shrunk. There's also the new player-dev frame of communications whether it be forums or social media where you can vent your rage. Back then you'd just take a keyboard and whack the guy next to you.

Wait really? No really? What's next, we've confirmed the existence of the Lockness monster now? If we assume they listened to the community feedback and researched it, the game wouldn't be in this condition at all. Massive updates with now Dust limited to just hot fixes means they're not so much listening to what the feedback is but basically keeping the ship from sinking. If this game were a ship, it'd be the Titan after hitting an iceberg where everyone in charge is calm and collective and unable to **** bricks as to the horrible fate awaiting them. This ship WILL sink and it's not a case of "if" but "when". Anyone since launch knows the litany of rants that have plagued this game.

And while I agree the playerbase doesn't always knows what's best, the same can be said of the developers too. And unless i take Rat's words out of context, hotfixes and no updates means they can only do so much to effect the game dynamics. The fact that we're still tweaking game balance a year into the game isn't a positive sign in any way, shape or form.


The old counter strike community....They probably created the first ever rage quits and memes on it before anyone. They're probably on the top 3 of all-time youtube worthy moments even. The difference is that a lot of ppl have had time to adjust to raging since then. It's not like it's disappeared but has only shrunk. There's also the new player-dev frame of communications whether it be forums or social media where you can vent your rage. Back then you'd just take a keyboard and whack the guy next to you.

Not trolling either, I think this is a very interesting topic.

What do you feel brings the amount of unprofessional whining not typically seen in other communities in regards to balance? Plenty of games are not very balanced, but only in the Dust community do you see such a large amount of teenage angst surface in what are theoretically full grown adults.

Not trolling either, I think this is a very interesting topic.

What do you feel brings the amount of unprofessional whining not typically seen in other communities in regards to balance? Plenty of games are not very balanced, but only in the Dust community do you see such a large amount of teenage angst surface in what are theoretically full grown adults.

DOTA

LOL is worse..much worse.. even more worse then "COD-Kiddies"

yea bro, its real bad over there. I guess OP has no idea.

yea bro, its real bad over there. I guess OP has no idea.

Dust is not competitive, too many broken game mechanics and imbalance