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Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 244	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:30:00 - [61] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Achieve nearly 700 DPS Has a Charge function that has little drawback for well over 5 times the damage Has a Clip Size on a tactical weapon to rival most Assault Variants Rarely overheats, even less so with an Amarian suit Has more than enough DPS to outperform it's BALANCED damage profile Has a fitting cost reduction on Assault Suits plenty of fitting space Has the same ISK cost as every other light weapon Is a hitscan weapon that has no travel time To you sir, I say get our facts straight! heat bar it's three times the damage of a normal shot laser weapons should have rechargeable ammo I rarely overheat because I know the limits of my gun and I only purposely overheat the scr to kill a enemy in 1vs1 I have the assault class to lvl5 and that pg skill to lvl2 the damn thing still nearly cost 14-15 pg meh it can only be proven by CCP *It's kinda unprecise, considering it doesn't shot when you press, but when you release. If you have enough dedication to master the ScR, then you are a threat as you should be, and as you actually are with any other weapon ( think about the rail rifle or the TAC AR on a Gallente Assault ) Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Chunky Munkey 5121	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:35:00 - [62] - Quote maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. ??? The ScR is maybe the No.1 skill based weapon in the entire game. The only way anything could require more skill & understanding is if it is underpowered and thereby requires more effort to use. So, in summary: get good scrub. Destiny won't kill Dust. CCP already did that.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11454	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:40:00 - [63] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. ??? The ScR is maybe the No.1 skill based weapon in the entire game. Nova Knives Plasma Cannon Breach Mass Driver Flaylock Pistol Laser Rifle Sniper Rifle Forge Gun Ion Pistol Bolt Pistol etc, etc, etc. Are weapons which are more skill intensive than the Scrambler Rifle will probably ever be. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ziiro Celeste Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 274	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:58:00 - [64] - Quote Really, people STILL hate on the ScR? Man there is no saving this community. Aisha Ctarl if you didn't know
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 244	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:01:00 - [65] - Quote Atiim wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. ??? The ScR is maybe the No.1 skill based weapon in the entire game. Nova Knives Plasma Cannon Breach Mass Driver Flaylock Pistol Laser Rifle Sniper Rifle Forge Gun Ion Pistol Bolt Pistol etc, etc, etc. Are weapons which are more skill intensive than the Scrambler Rifle will probably ever be. You should seriously remove the Sniper Rifle. And, well, in the list you made, 3 weapons are UP and you just cannot master them. the NK, belongs to its own class, so it's simply unfair to compare them to a light weapon. The Laser Rifle is much easier to use compared to a Scrambler Rifle. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12917	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:04:00 - [66] - Quote Atiim wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. ^uses OP as sht CR whines about most balanced rifle in game SMH... Most balanced would actually belong to the Plasma Rifle. SCRs are suspiciously good in CQC for a Mid-Long range weapon... Agreed the only thing I could say about it is some tweaks to hip fire accuracy..... not too much though given that over heat in CQC is significantly more likely and detrimental to the weapon.... but I could certainly agree that a bit more spread on the weapon when hip firing is in order. "We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires"* -Kador Ouryon
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 77	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:07:00 - [67] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: so let me get this straight your complaining about a weapon that uses selective fire not automatic requires precise aim rewarding actual skill and punishing those without skill overheats resulting in a 5 sec sieze,and damage to the operater only good for shields vs.cal/minmater frame suits has extremely high fitting cost most isk expensive light weapon in the game at all tiers rounds have a higher time-to-travel than all other regular variants guns(rr,cr,ar) to you sir i say "get guud" No he's complaining about a weapon that Achieve nearly 700 DPS Has a Charge function that has little drawback for well over 5 times the damage Has a Clip Size on a tactical weapon to rival most Assault Variants Rarely overheats, even less so with an Amarian suit Has more than enough DPS to outperform it's BALANCED damage profile Has a fitting cost reduction on Assault Suits plenty of fitting space Has the same ISK cost as every other light weapon Is a hitscan weapon that has no travel time To you sir, I say get our facts straight! Paper Stats don't tell the full story for semi auto weapons... In practice, without special hardware, the DPS of the ScR is comparable with the other fine rifles. wrong. 325% damage. overheating at about 20 rounds practically negates this. Paper Stats don't tell the full story for semi auto weapons... In practice, without special hardware, the DPS of the ScR is comparable with the other fine rifles. All weapons have the same fitting cost reduction. ScR still uses lots of PG compared to the other light weapons, so even with the same SP investment, the ScR still uses more. True. True. Get your facts atraigh
Xmar Handfelid SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 37	Posted - 2014.08.16 03:34:00 - [68] - Quote maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. Gr8t b8 m8. Go back to your cum8 rifle m8( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) "If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3305	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:03:00 - [69] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: so let me get this straight your complaining about a weapon that uses selective fire not automatic requires precise aim rewarding actual skill and punishing those without skill overheats resulting in a 5 sec sieze,and damage to the operater only good for shields vs.cal/minmater frame suits has extremely high fitting cost most isk expensive light weapon in the game at all tiers rounds have a higher time-to-travel than all other regular variants guns(rr,cr,ar) to you sir i say "get guud" No he's complaining about a weapon that Achieve nearly 700 DPS Has a Charge function that has little drawback for well over 5 times the damage Has a Clip Size on a tactical weapon to rival most Assault Variants Rarely overheats, even less so with an Amarian suit Has more than enough DPS to outperform it's BALANCED damage profile Has a fitting cost reduction on Assault Suits plenty of fitting space Has the same ISK cost as every other light weapon Is a hitscan weapon that has no travel time To you sir, I say get our facts straight! Paper Stats don't tell the full story for semi auto weapons... In practice, without special hardware, the DPS of the ScR is comparable with the other fine rifles. Tells the story it needs to tell, between modded controllers and fast trigger fingers its DPS can easily reach extreme levels. If it's regularly only got the same DPS as every other rifle a ROF cap to ensure that wouldn't be unreasonable. wrong. 325% damage. I've hit charge shots for over 500 dmg, since the base damage is supposedly 80ish, that's hitting at well over the prescribed 325%* overheating at about 20 rounds practically negates this. Only if you overheat a very easy mechanic to avoid especially since while your charging you continue to cooldown. This allows abuse of the mechanic and allows you to keep going in combat.* Paper Stats don't tell the full story for semi auto weapons... In practice, without special hardware, the DPS of the ScR is comparable with the other fine rifles. Yet ScR's have little problem with the armour, much like the TAR (previously) and the CR (currently) the ScR has capacity for abuse, once again if it isn't the problem a ROF cap wouldn't effect the use of the weapon for anyone. All weapons have the same fitting cost reduction. ScR still uses lots of PG compared to the other light weapons, so even with the same SP investment, the ScR still uses more. Never said it wasn't just said there is plenty of space, secondly you get more from that bonus than any other weapon, though I imagine that to cold comfort. True. True. Get your facts atraigh They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:13:00 - [70] - Quote *time to travel-scr: cut aim assist off and you will see you have to aim ever so slightly ahead to hit targets running from left to right(vice versa) at a range of 30m or so. (any farther hip-fire isn't possible) "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"

Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3305	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:35:00 - [71] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: time to travel-scr: cut aim assist off and you will see you have to aim ever so slightly ahead to hit targets running from left to right(vice versa) at a range of 30m or so. (any farther hip-fire isn't possible) I play with AA off, I have not seen any such behaviour, it's hitscan just like every other rifle. Especially considering the shots are pure energy it wouldn't make sense for them to program a projectile travel time for this 1 weapon and not for the other three. Once again the scrambler rifle is hitscan, there is not travel time. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh* and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:42:00 - [72] - Quote @ monkey well derp i must have been lagging every single match my entire dust career. The easiest way to replicate with aa off is too aim for headshots you will see what i mean.(or me getting 7+headshots per match means i have poor gun game) "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3305	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:56:00 - [73] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: @ monkey well derp i must have been lagging every single match my entire dust career. The easiest way to replicate with aa off is too aim for headshots you will see what i mean.(or me getting 7+headshots per match means i have poor gun game) Well can you explain how I can headshot a cloaked scout sprinting across my screen? My entire dust career must somehow have included the power to spend space and time. It's likely you jist aim forward because that's what you feel, but it would still hit if you happen to aim directly at the head. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:59:00 - [74] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: @ monkey well derp i must have been lagging every single match my entire dust career. The easiest way to replicate with aa off is too aim for headshots you will see what i mean.(or me getting 7+headshots per match means i have poor gun game) Well can you explain how I can headshot a cloaked scout sprinting across my screen? My entire dust career must somehow have included the power to spend space and time. It's likely you jist aim forward because that's what you feel, but it would still hit if you happen to aim directly at the head. you may be right, but that is always how i've operated scr and you can ask anybody that has been on the other end when i aim down sights i don't miss "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11738	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:01:00 - [75] - Quote No rifle in the game has bullet travel time. None. If they had actual projectiles you could find them in the SDE, just like every other projectile (Flaylock, Mass Driver, Forge, Plasma Cannon, Railgun, etc') Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:04:00 - [76] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: No rifle in the game has bullet travel time. None. If they had actual projectiles you could find them in the SDE, just like every other projectile (Flaylock, Mass Driver, Forge, Plasma Cannon, Railgun, etc') lmfao by that logic i wouldn't be able to sidestep/strafe a enemys rounds. "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11738	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:08:00 - [77] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: Cat Merc wrote: No rifle in the game has bullet travel time. None. If they had actual projectiles you could find them in the SDE, just like every other projectile (Flaylock, Mass Driver, Forge, Plasma Cannon, Railgun, etc') lmfao by that logic i wouldn't be able to sidestep/strafe a enemys rounds. Strafing only works to put your enemy off target, which has to be corrected by aiming. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:11:00 - [78] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: Cat Merc wrote: No rifle in the game has bullet travel time. None. If they had actual projectiles you could find them in the SDE, just like every other projectile (Flaylock, Mass Driver, Forge, Plasma Cannon, Railgun, etc') lmfao by that logic i wouldn't be able to sidestep/strafe a enemys rounds. Strafing only works to put your enemy off target, which has to be corrected by aiming. and sidestepping hmm? if it is instantaneous hit detecticn how can i sidestep a smg that has a rof of 1000rpm? "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11738	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:12:00 - [79] - Quote http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/363356 If you go down, you will find projectileType. Click on that and you will see the attributes of the projectile itself. http://www.stuff514.com/sde/type/353114 Notice how it says "None" in the projectileType? That's because it has no projectile, just like every other rifle. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Sgt Buttscratch R 0 N 1 N 2269	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:12:00 - [80] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: so let me get this straight your complaining about a weapon that uses selective fire not automatic requires precise aim rewarding actual skill and punishing those without skill overheats resulting in a 5 sec sieze,and damage to the operater only good for shields vs.cal/minmater frame suits has extremely high fitting cost most isk expensive light weapon in the game at all tiers rounds have a higher time-to-travel than all other regular variants guns(rr,cr,ar) to you sir i say "get guud" You forgot to add Unleashes the remaining portion of clip once user is killed Thats the only issue I have with the SCR, is the fact tha you kill the scrub using it and it continues firing Give me my scrambler pistol back....**

Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11738	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:12:00 - [81] - Quote iKILLu osborne wrote: Cat Merc wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: Cat Merc wrote: No rifle in the game has bullet travel time. None. If they had actual projectiles you could find them in the SDE, just like every other projectile (Flaylock, Mass Driver, Forge, Plasma Cannon, Railgun, etc') lmfao by that logic i wouldn't be able to sidestep/strafe a enemys rounds. Strafing only works to put your enemy off target, which has to be corrected by aiming. and sidestepping hmm? if it is instantaneous hit detecticn how can i sidestep a smg that has a rof of 1000rpm? Because you sidestep out of his aim, not out of the bullet trajectory. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11738	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:13:00 - [82] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: iKILLu osborne wrote: so let me get this straight your complaining about a weapon that uses selective fire not automatic requires precise aim rewarding actual skill and punishing those without skill overheats resulting in a 5 sec sieze,and damage to the operater only good for shields vs.cal/minmater frame suits has extremely high fitting cost most isk expensive light weapon in the game at all tiers rounds have a higher time-to-travel than all other regular variants guns(rr,cr,ar) to you sir i say "get guud" You forgot to add Unleashes the remaining portion of clip once user is killed Thats the only issue I have with the SCR, is the fact tha you kill the scrub using it and it continues firing RR does that too if the user keeps holding R1. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
iKILLu osborne Dead Man's Game 163	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:19:00 - [83] - Quote @ sgt buttscratch (lol) yes that is a problem and i rage when it happens to me. @ monkey sorry i can't provide you with a link, however i have ran scr since 1.6 and trust i can tell you there is btt however so slightly. or it might be hit detetection fooling me into thinking i need to aim ahead of said target. "uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1683	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:27:00 - [84] - Quote Atiim wrote: I really hate ScRubs who walk ARound insta-ganking everyone with their rifles thinking that they're good. That's why I can't wait for their CRutch to get neRRfed. To make you feel any better, i can get the same scores with the Assault Rail Rifle, Rail Rifle, Boundless CR, Six Kin CR, CRW Scrambler rifle, Templar SCR or the Viziam SCR. Many people have fanmailed me about the gun being too OP and i couldnt kill em if i did not use it, i also supposedly use a turbo controller with it. Next time i saw em i took another rifle and did the exact same thing to them, until the send me an apology. It's not the gun guys... Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11740	Posted - 2014.08.16 11:47:00 - [85] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hate ScRubs who walk ARound insta-ganking everyone with their rifles thinking that they're good. That's why I can't wait for their CRutch to get neRRfed. To make you feel any better, i can get the same scores with the Assault Rail Rifle, Rail Rifle, Boundless CR, Six Kin CR, CRW Scrambler rifle, Templar SCR or the Viziam SCR. Many people have fanmailed me about the gun being too OP and i couldnt kill em if i did not use it, i also supposedly use a turbo controller with it. Next time i saw em i took another rifle and did the exact same thing to them, until the send me an apology. It's not the gun guys... That joke flew right over your head didn't it? Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Rei Shepard The Rainbow Effect 1685	Posted - 2014.08.17 09:51:00 - [86] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: Atiim wrote: I really hate ScRubs who walk ARound insta-ganking everyone with their rifles thinking that they're good. That's why I can't wait for their CRutch to get neRRfed. To make you feel any better, i can get the same scores with the Assault Rail Rifle, Rail Rifle, Boundless CR, Six Kin CR, CRW Scrambler rifle, Templar SCR or the Viziam SCR. Many people have fanmailed me about the gun being too OP and i couldnt kill em if i did not use it, i also supposedly use a turbo controller with it. Next time i saw em i took another rifle and did the exact same thing to them, until the send me an apology. It's not the gun guys... That joke flew right over your head didn't it? Don't care Winner of the EU Squad Cup "Go Go Power Rangers!" "Accuracy"
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1150	Posted - 2014.08.17 10:46:00 - [87] - Quote maluble wrote: Get good scrubs. stop standing still peaking your noob head around a box and ill stop charge shoting your face into scrambled eggs. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1150	Posted - 2014.08.17 10:52:00 - [88] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Woops sorry my phallic weapon hit you with one of its charged shots. Maybe next time you should see the look on my face before I let one go XD yes i don't think people understand when they see me in my golden amarr assault that 1 second when im standing there not fireing at them is there time to run not stand there to eat one in the forehead. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 916	Posted - 2014.08.17 12:42:00 - [89] - Quote Atiim wrote: I really hate ScRubs who walk ARound insta-ganking everyone with their rifles thinking that they're good. That's why I can't wait for their CRutch to get neRRfed. This made my morning a little brighter. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.


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