DUST Search - Lets Talk Delta: THE FLAYLOCK

ROMULUS H3X wrote:

Egonz4 wrote:

Haven't tried Charlie yet but I'm excited cuz it's one step closer to my dreams....the buff of the Flaylock!

IMO the FL should be super powerful (hello it shoots rockets) but hard to use (as it is already).

So I would suggest a damage buff only....I u buff the radius it eill become another OP easy to use sidearm...so that's my view from using it for so long...and plz push out delta fast (it's suppose to be a Hotfix)....

Enjoy Charlie well you still can mercs...when delta comes...all will fear me!!!!

Okay maybe not but still :(

Indeed, there are a few slight and reasonable changes to the flaylock that could be implemented w/o being gamebreaking.

First off, I have no problem getting kills with the flaylock as it is currently.

Fire Rate- Great
Blast radius- Where it should be
Reload speed- Viable
Direct Damage- Have had scouts survive 3 direct volleys to the face, had to reload and finish him with splash..

A slight buff to direct damage, say maybe +30 more damage at proto, I believe would be fine.

Range- there are times where I have such a great shot with the Flaylock at some distance to have the projectile explode within 15m or so of the target.

At least least us be rewarded for timing and calculating long distance targets with the flaylock, seriously would an extra 20m range be too much?
It's a rocket for crying out loud, I have built rockets in my backyard that go further than the flaylock Roll

Thank you for bringing up this topic Egonz :)

Pages: [1] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Egonz4 DARKSTAR ARMY 424	Posted - 2014.08.13 23:40:00 - [1] - Quote Haven't tried Charlie yet but I'm excited cuz it's one step closer to my dreams....the buff of the Flaylock! IMO the FL should be super powerful (hello it shoots rockets) but hard to use (as it is already). So I would suggest a damage buff only....I u buff the radius it eill become another OP easy to use sidearm...so that's my view from using it for so long...and plz push out delta fast (it's suppose to be a Hotfix).... Enjoy Charlie well you still can mercs...when delta comes...all will fear me!!!! Okay maybe not but still :( Master of The Flaylock
PoP SoTa Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2014.08.13 23:41:00 - [2] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Haven't tried Charlie yet but I'm excited cuz it's one step closer to my dreams....the buff of the Flaylock! IMO the FL should be super powerful (hello it shoots rockets) but hard to use (as it is already). So I would suggest a damage buff only....I u buff the radius it eill become another OP easy to use sidearm...so that's my view from using it for so long...and plz push out delta fast (it's suppose to be a Hotfix).... Enjoy Charlie well you still can mercs...when delta comes...all will fear me!!!! Okay maybe not but still :( Don't change a thing - it's perfect. I don't know why people can't see how great it is right now, I have it on my AV set and destroy infantry with it, granted, takes 2 clips, but most good fights do. :3
Flaylock Pistol Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2014.08.13 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote Another thread about me...
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 1085	Posted - 2014.08.13 23:43:00 - [4] - Quote Fluxlocks, FTW. Who farted?
ROMULUS H3X research lab 165	Posted - 2014.08.15 07:17:00 - [5] - Quote Egonz4 wrote: Haven't tried Charlie yet but I'm excited cuz it's one step closer to my dreams....the buff of the Flaylock! IMO the FL should be super powerful (hello it shoots rockets) but hard to use (as it is already). So I would suggest a damage buff only....I u buff the radius it eill become another OP easy to use sidearm...so that's my view from using it for so long...and plz push out delta fast (it's suppose to be a Hotfix).... Enjoy Charlie well you still can mercs...when delta comes...all will fear me!!!! Okay maybe not but still :( Indeed, there are a few slight and reasonable changes to the flaylock that could be implemented w/o being gamebreaking. First off, I have no problem getting kills with the flaylock as it is currently. Fire Rate- Great Blast radius- Where it should be Reload speed- Viable Direct Damage- Have had scouts survive 3 direct volleys to the face, had to reload and finish him with splash.. A slight buff to direct damage, say maybe +30 more damage at proto, I believe would be fine. Range- there are times where I have such a great shot with the Flaylock at some distance to have the projectile explode within 15m or so of the target. At least least us be rewarded for timing and calculating long distance targets with the flaylock, seriously would an extra 20m range be too much? It's a rocket for crying out loud, I have built rockets in my backyard that go further than the flaylock Thank you for bringing up this topic Egonz :) FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X
Thurak1 Psygod9 915	Posted - 2014.08.15 07:56:00 - [6] - Quote Just as long as they are never the OP weapons they were. I still remember when they were nearly the only weapon in kill feed and you didnt even have to hit people just hit within 5m of them. Was ridiculous getting killed behind cover constantly from splash.
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars Top Men. 163	Posted - 2014.08.15 10:46:00 - [7] - Quote The flaylock should have its blast radius homogenized like contact grenades were. All flaylocks need a blast radius of roughly 1.7m. 1m blast radius for standard flaylock is bad. Especially because lag causes the projectile to fire 0.2 seconds after I told it to. It also has no aim assist because it is an explosive weapon. I would love the flaylock to become an AV sidearm like the nova knifes. Perhaps 150% damage efficacy. that is roughly 620 damage per clip at 100% dmg efficacy to vehicles. And roughly 1000 dmg per clip at 150% dmg efficacy to vehicles.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 16970	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:09:00 - [8] - Quote It ought to have higher direct hit damage. But it doesn't need more splash. We don't need a return to that. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. 'Lucent Echelon' - Gallente FW channel
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 149	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:48:00 - [9] - Quote Splash damage buff or a flat increase in damage, but a mandatory clip size increase to 4 or 5. I would prefer the splash damage of std. 1.5, adv. 1.75, and proto 2.0. The Blazing Intellect Machine
ROMULUS H3X research lab 167	Posted - 2014.08.15 11:54:00 - [10] - Quote Also prototype Breach Flaylock need to be introduced. The basic (and only ) breach flaylock is worthless, which also needs a slight direct damage buff FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN -Romulus H3X

Egonz4 DARKSTAR ARMY 430	Posted - 2014.08.18 01:46:00 - [11] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Egonz4 wrote: Haven't tried Charlie yet but I'm excited cuz it's one step closer to my dreams....the buff of the Flaylock! IMO the FL should be super powerful (hello it shoots rockets) but hard to use (as it is already). So I would suggest a damage buff only....I u buff the radius it eill become another OP easy to use sidearm...so that's my view from using it for so long...and plz push out delta fast (it's suppose to be a Hotfix).... Enjoy Charlie well you still can mercs...when delta comes...all will fear me!!!! Okay maybe not but still :( Indeed, there are a few slight and reasonable changes to the flaylock that could be implemented w/o being gamebreaking. First off, I have no problem getting kills with the flaylock as it is currently. Fire Rate- Great Blast radius- Where it should be Reload speed- Viable Direct Damage- Have had scouts survive 3 direct volleys to the face, had to reload and finish him with splash.. A slight buff to direct damage, say maybe +30 more damage at proto, I believe would be fine. Range- there are times where I have such a great shot with the Flaylock at some distance to have the projectile explode within 15m or so of the target. At least least us be rewarded for timing and calculating long distance targets with the flaylock, seriously would an extra 20m range be too much? It's a rocket for crying out loud, I have built rockets in my backyard that go further than the flaylock Thank you for bringing up this topic Egonz :) I totally agree..... There should be no splash radius increase though...... To easy... The gun should shoot powerful missiles but is hard to use Master of The Flaylock
Tectonic Fusion 2010	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:04:00 - [12] - Quote I think the gun's bonus should be changed, and the splash range should be hard capped at approx. 2m. Also I think the proto should be able to kill a tanked out advanced scout at least. EDIT: Remember, all you have to do is time jumps to avoid flaylock rounds, and this gun is terrible in mountain terrain.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6527	Posted - 2014.08.18 02:16:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It ought to have higher direct hit damage. But it doesn't need more splash. We don't need a return to that. That's about the only change it needs. It's great in it's versatility. Great at finishing off wounded targets with it's splash damage, and powerful at removing targets if you can land direct shots. Right now the splash is great, but the direct damage needs a buff. A large one. I'm talking a progression of 250, 300, 350 along the tiers. With homogenized splash and splash damage. 350 direct means that you deal around 483 direct damage to armor. Land a direct shot and two splashes and that will kill most tanked out suits. Hitting the direct shots will be vital though. Splash alone shouldn't be enough to kill targets at full health (Assuming med frames, I've killed scouts with flaylocks easily due to lower HP. Possibly only because of my prof III core flaylock though. ) FA's Stabber Extraordinaire Minmatar Enthusiast Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11486	Posted - 2014.08.18 03:31:00 - [14] - Quote Keep in mind that Flaylock Pistols have less range than the the SCPs, so their DPS should be higher than the SCPs. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2049	Posted - 2014.08.18 03:39:00 - [15] - Quote clip size is the only thing holding this weapon back, it really should be bigger but only to 4-5 Minmatar is Winmatar
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public.Disorder. 6313	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:16:00 - [16] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It ought to have higher direct hit damage. But it doesn't need more splash. We don't need a return to that. That's about the only change it needs. It's great in it's versatility. Great at finishing off wounded targets with it's splash damage, and powerful at removing targets if you can land direct shots. Right now the splash is great, but the direct damage needs a buff. A large one. I'm talking a progression of 250, 300, 350 along the tiers. With homogenized splash and splash damage. 350 direct means that you deal around 483 direct damage to armor. Land a direct shot and two splashes and that will kill most tanked out suits. Hitting the direct shots will be vital though. Splash alone shouldn't be enough to kill targets at full health (Assuming med frames, I've killed scouts with flaylocks easily due to lower HP. Possibly only because of my prof III core flaylock though. ) agreed, hopefully CCP does take care of this problem sold. Now if only they had started working with the community like this a year ago.... Edit:ALSO OP- I realize I've been gone for a while but honestly the bloody title.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Zindorak 1.U.P 707	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:18:00 - [17] - Quote You can't rely on splash damage cuz it won't do any thing to severe to your enemy. Get blast radius fixed Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5867	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:24:00 - [18] - Quote Make it so that the shots do 5,000,000 damage to everything on both teams within a 100m radius, and that it has about a 20m range. #won'tbehere pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4495	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:31:00 - [19] - Quote I've never used the flaylock much, but it's what I plan to use with my Min Assault (600K left for L5). I've played with it once or twice. But I've been side tracked by Nova Knives and the SMG is on all my non Minja setups. Anyway, I'm pretty excited about the possibilities. I hope they consider removing heavy resistance (or toning it down) to explosives. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 2045	Posted - 2014.08.29 02:45:00 - [20] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: clip size is the only thing holding this weapon back, it really should be bigger but only to 4-5 Last year Dev misprinted or mislead that the operation skill was changing to ammo capacity. Suddenly the changes to damage made perfect sense with additional shots. The Flaylock needs a clear vision for how it is meant to operate. Then that needs to be communicated. Otherwise everyone is going to continually fly off in different directions with how Flaylocks should work. I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers. Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever

Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 758	Posted - 2014.08.29 07:52:00 - [21] - Quote It still has the best fitting cost out there. Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 6118	Posted - 2014.08.29 08:55:00 - [22] - Quote would appreciate this in the ongoing Sidearms thread over in Feedback and Ideas forum "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"



Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page