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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:40:00 -
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While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:41:00 -
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Galassault has a bonus?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:42:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Galassault has a bonus?
Yup, right up there with feedback damage bonus on sentinels.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:48:00 -
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I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:49:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good
I'm for it too, but I'm not so sure everyone else is.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:55:00 -
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RoF bonus is pretty cool TBH, although I'd hate running out of shots quicker.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 18:58:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good I'm for it too, but I'm not so sure everyone else is.
Don't understand why, gallente weapons are troll weapons(looks at Ar Plc and Ion pistol) their supposed to be high dps and short range but get beat by OP dmg profile Cr.
The bonus would make Sg assaults a thing again, improve use of the Ar and maybe the Plc I think. Is it really hard to see when something is up it needs a suit to be viable?
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:00:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:RoF bonus is pretty cool TBH, although I'd hate running out of shots quicker.
They have a skill for that :D but I'm sure your ion pistol won't be a problem since you maxed it out XD
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:21:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:RoF bonus is pretty cool TBH, although I'd hate running out of shots quicker. They have a skill for that :D but I'm sure your ion pistol won't be a problem since you maxed it out XD
They don't have a skill for clip size. 
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:25:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn. that sounds fine but i will ask that my cadari assault bonus be changed all together something to make the rail not so weak sauce.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:28:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn. that sounds fine but i will ask that my cadari assault bonus be changed all together something to make the rail not so weak sauce.
Still better than my bonus 
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:34:00 -
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I think the cal bonus also needs looking at.. Sorry but reload speed doesn't mean much for a long range weapon.. Though I like the idea of a rof bonus for gal.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I think the cal bonus also needs looking at.. Sorry but reload speed doesn't mean much for a long range weapon.. Though I like the idea of a rof bonus for gal.
Agreed.
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Jadek Menaheim
Xer Cloud Consortium
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:41:00 -
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I've got an ALT skilled into level 4 Gal Assaults and maxed shotguns. And I find sniper shotguns are an interesting thing indeed.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:42:00 -
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A RoF bonus for the gal assault makes sense as I see the frame as a hard hitting, close quarters fighter. Perhaps give the Cal assault a dispersion bonus on rails when aiming down sight?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:42:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:I've got an ALT skilled into level 4 Gal Assaults and maxed shotguns. And I find sniper shotguns are an interesting thing indeed.
I am unsure how you intend to snipe with a 5m optimal, regardless of how tight your hipfire is.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:44:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:I've got an ALT skilled into level 4 Gal Assaults and maxed shotguns. And I find sniper shotguns are an interesting thing indeed.
I have a targeting reticle stenciled on my TV for the express purpose of making the best use of my quick scope/CQC sniper fit.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:44:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn. that sounds fine but i will ask that my cadari assault bonus be changed all together something to make the rail not so weak sauce.
How about a reduction to charge time?
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noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:48:00 -
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I love the idea of a rof bonus.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:49:00 -
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So how about a more official thread about this in feedback and discussion?
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:49:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn. that sounds fine but i will ask that my cadari assault bonus be changed all together something to make the rail not so weak sauce. How about a reduction to charge time?
I like that but they'd make it so minimal I doubt you'd see a difference. Maybe.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 19:55:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:While I think that the bonus is dumb, I'm thinking we should try increasing it to 50% or even 75%.
If I can hipfire with laser accuracy for 40m it might actually be worth a damn. that sounds fine but i will ask that my cadari assault bonus be changed all together something to make the rail not so weak sauce. How about a reduction to charge time? I like that but they'd make it so minimal I doubt you'd see a difference. Maybe.
Yeah that's what I was worried about, I wanted to select a bonus that benefited all Cal weapons or most. Someone else suggested a reduction to recoil but that leaves out the sniper rifle which I use on my alt because commandos are slow and the Cal scout is fotm atm
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:07:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good
Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:15:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should.
Cuz the Amarr and Min already have good bonuses.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:23:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should.
Apparently you haven't been up to date. That was a proposed class bonus for the assault but it horrendously left the Scr in the cold since no one can reach the current potential rpm unless you used a modded controller which would make it worse and encourage the use of it. Plus do you honestly want a Acr tearing you to shreds in a heartbeat?
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:27:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should. Apparently you haven't been up to date. That was a proposed class bonus for the assault but it horrendously left the Scr in the cold since no one can reach the current potential rpm unless you used a modded controller which would make it worse and encourage the use of it. Plus do you honestly want a Acr tearing you to shreds in a heartbeat?
It does so now as it is..it has the highest dps of all the rifles.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should. Cuz the Amarr and Min already have good bonuses.
Rof would trump all of those bonuses.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:30:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should. Apparently you haven't been up to date. That was a proposed class bonus for the assault but it horrendously left the Scr in the cold since no one can reach the current potential rpm unless you used a modded controller which would make it worse and encourage the use of it. Plus do you honestly want a Acr tearing you to shreds in a heartbeat? It does so now as it is..it has the highest dps of all the rifles.
Explain to me how so?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:33:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:I'm all for you scum getting a rof bonus.
2% per a lvl sounds good Why only gal assault? If any assault suit gets a rof bonus... they all should. Cuz the Amarr and Min already have good bonuses. Rof would trump all of those bonuses.
I'm not sure it would.
The SCR because vastly more powerful with the overheat bonus, so much so that it's the go-to suit for serious SCR use.
The only thing holding back the CR is the shortish clip size. 85 round ACR mags are fantastically strong.
Then we have a proposed 10% RoF bonus. That equates to about 10% more DPS. Is that really so strong?
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.08.12 20:40:00 -
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Hi o/
For me, the Gal assault and the Cal assault MUST have OTHER bonus...
For the Gal :
OK, you want to increase the RoF, but 880 RoF, it would add a lot of kick, but you wouldn't have any more the kick reduction...
For me (maybe not very interesting for you)
+1% (or 2%) RoF and 5% kick reduction
For Calda :
Charge time reduction is a really good idea, but the burst RR has a lot of kick...
Those changes I would like to have :
- The charge time of the RR is increase (0.30s => 0.50)
- Caldassault bonus : 20% reduction charge time of rail weapon per level (=> caldassault would become the only suit which has a RR without charge time. Very interresting. But other people who use the RR have more charge time)***
- A kick reduction for calassault (5% per level)
*** I know what you'll say :
"But Calcommando would have a penality on his RR with more charge time"
=> Calcommando is made not to go ont the battlefront, but to be behind assault => charge time increase doesn't change this.
Thought ?
And sorry for my many mistakes. I don't speak English very well.
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