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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.11 12:56:00 -
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They bullets are magnetic. It's like you don't even have to have sight on the person. I would like CCP to fix this B.S., I'm tired of losing super strafe minmatar scouts from 80m away to a militia rail rifle.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
443
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:06:00 -
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Super strafe scout at 80 m . are little dot that you can easy track (see eve: turret tracking term and angle)
Tell me why I must 'hate' strafing/jumping scout 1 m in front of me and I cant hit it from HMG (you know WALLLll.. of bullets ;)
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3123
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:06:00 -
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Maybe the mlt but don't be touching my kali.. I'm cal assault so I actually have a right to use 1 ;) though if it gets nerfed I'll just use the CBR.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
755
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:08:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:Super strafe scout at 80 m . are little dot that you can easy track (see eve: turret tracking term and angle)
Tell me why I must 'hate' strafing/jumping scout 1 m in front of me and I cant hit it from HMG (you know WALLLll.. of bullets ;)
Sure, but I've used the RR myself and I don't even have to have the little dot on the person for it to render damage.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3138
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:21:00 -
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RRs are funny with AA. The amount of times I've gotten headshot kills whilst aiming a good distance ahead of running enemies is lulz worthy.
No gun game? Don't worry. Slap on an RR and make sure that you never turn aim assist off. Add in an excessive number of left and right movements on your joystick during engagements and you're an instant pro! |
Jack Boost
Zarena Family
444
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:22:00 -
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Turn off Aim asists :) Lifie will be better.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3124
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:23:00 -
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Great so assaults are finally getting buffed now you're going to get our weapons nerfed.. Awesome.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3265
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:26:00 -
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No, this is standard physics you fool!
Naismith's rule, for every degree of varation each kilometer out will result in 1 kilometer away from the target in the other axis.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . .Gûá X
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá B
Assuming the Rail Rifle is situated at point X, a player strafing between the points at distance A will be as easy to track as player strafing between the points at distance B, meanwhile the player strafing between the points at distance C is even easier to track since the effects of parralax make it require less aiming.
You have now been educated
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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TechMechMeds
Tech Dungeon Of Servility
5009
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:26:00 -
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I officially disapprove of this thread.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
1053
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:27:00 -
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It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy.
Who farted?
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3138
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:30:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy.
Viziam ScR would like a word with you.
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
3125
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:32:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy.
That's cuz it's the worst light weapon in cqc.. It'd make no since to have it suck at cqc and not have range.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
756
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:32:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:No, this is standard physics you fool!
Naismith's rule, for every degree of varation each kilometer out will result in 1 kilometer away from the target in the other axis.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . .Gûá X
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá B
Assuming the Rail Rifle is situated at point X, a player strafing between the points at distance A will be as easy to track as player strafing between the points at distance B, meanwhile the player strafing between the points at distance C is even easier to track since the effects of parralax make it require less aiming.
You have now been educated
what ever, RR still hits without actually having to have little dot on person. It's like giving everything in the game the hitbox of a heavy even though it's a scout.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
756
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:33:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy. Viziam ScR would like a word with you. Also, snipers. Lol.
But Viziam actually requires aim. Sadly that is too much to ask form the community.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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VALCORE72
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
195
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:37:00 -
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lol you do understand you dont have to the dot on them to hit them.you can shoot left or right and get damage just a little . dont get me started about scouts . heavys needed a range nerf for ever but not more heat build up. rat listened to all the scouts and we got screwd over lol |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3266
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Posted - 2014.08.11 13:49:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No, this is standard physics you fool!
Naismith's rule, for every degree of varation each kilometer out will result in 1 kilometer away from the target in the other axis.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . .Gûá X
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá B
Assuming the Rail Rifle is situated at point X, a player strafing between the points at distance A will be as easy to track as player strafing between the points at distance B, meanwhile the player strafing between the points at distance C is even easier to track since the effects of parralax make it require less aiming.
You have now been educated what ever, RR still hits without actually having to have little dot on person. It's like giving everything in the game the hitbox of a heavy even though it's a scout.
It's like that with every weapon, it's called dispersion, we complained because just pointing little dot at person is so easy it makes TTK too low. How about instead just ignoring what people are telling you.
Learn that your super-scrub-chop-strafe doesn't work at range and consider using some intelligence and initiative to counter instead of just whining because your game breaking tactics don't work.
If you don't like it go back to COD, you'll find the ranges of every engagement to be perfect for a chop strafer like yourself.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
1056
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Posted - 2014.08.11 14:18:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy. Viziam ScR would like a word with you. Also, snipers. Lol.
I've been wondering which weapon to work with next.
Maybe I'll give it the old college try...
I thought that the overheat was only manageable with Amarr Assaults? My Amarr alt may have to see about this before my main can commit to it.
Seems like I tried them before (after that 72 Kill video) but didn't like the charge up or something.
Who farted?
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Ace Starburst
is well hung
109
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:03:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy.
Lasers work pretty good. It helps to heat up the beam so they can't react fast enough and run into cover.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1238
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:52:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:They bullets are magnetic. It's like you don't even have to have sight on the person.
It's not just the RR that it happens with. I've done it with CR and AR as well and then there were times I've unloaded half a mag directly on people that weren't really moving and not get a single hit marker.
Kill Scotty
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
344
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Posted - 2014.08.11 16:25:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No, this is standard physics you fool!
Naismith's rule, for every degree of varation each kilometer out will result in 1 kilometer away from the target in the other axis.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . .Gûá X
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá B
Assuming the Rail Rifle is situated at point X, a player strafing between the points at distance A will be as easy to track as player strafing between the points at distance B, meanwhile the player strafing between the points at distance C is even easier to track since the effects of parralax make it require less aiming.
You have now been educated what ever, RR still hits without actually having to have little dot on person. It's like giving everything in the game the hitbox of a heavy even though it's a scout.
Yes, Science be damned, I'm right because I say so, not because of the truth...
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
932
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:00:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:It killed me once.
Fixed the original post to fit with the thread title and for accuracy.
Have a pony
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1045
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:12:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy.
I see Combat Rifles as a counter , it's just as effective if not more because you don't have that annoying kick that you deal with while using Rails ... I see someone strafing by with a CR and it's just two to three pulls of the trigger and whatever your shooting gets evaporated .
If your knocking rails you need to knock the CR as well because it's just as effective , if not better .
I miss while using rails and then get countered by CR's on a daily , so I just don't see why your talking like rails don't have a match on the field because that's just flat out not true .
I use rails while using Commando's , the suit that boosts and I get smashed by casual CR users ... the CR has range and accuracy along with DPS to boot .
I can shoot someone with a rail and miss half the shots from that awful kick but the CR runs smooth like butter .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
390
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:42:00 -
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Yeah, the RR is a bit ridiculous. Stupid hipfire, too high ROF, ridiculous range due to ridiculous optimal/falloff. I fee like in theory, I should be able to use my ScR to fairly compete with a red using a RR, but it's never the case in practice--I have to have my reticle spot-on or nothing lands, while my opponent (usually a Cal scout) dances back and forth at 80m and everyone one of their rounds hits me. |
The Eristic
Dust 90210
608
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:42:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:RYN0CER0S wrote:It's stupid because there is no Light Weapon counter to its range and accuracy.
The only way to get to a decent user that is smart enough to stay back and use his range, is a Forge Gun - and you'd better be quick with it because it only takes about 4 quickly landed shots to render a dead Heavy. Viziam ScR would like a word with you. Also, snipers. Lol. I've been wondering which weapon to work with next. Maybe I'll give it the old college try... I thought that the overheat was only manageable with Amarr Assaults? My Amarr alt may have to see about this before my main can commit to it. Seems like I tried them before (after that 72 Kill video) but didn't like the charge up or something.
Amarr Assault is required if you want to use the charge shot frequently or want to engage multiple targets in quick succession (but even then, it doesn't help that much!). Otherwise, use regular fire in short volleys and you'll be ok if your aim is solid.
The Laser is the better ranged counter to RR, though.
Reality is the original Rorschach.
Verily! So much for all that.
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CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
390
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Posted - 2014.08.11 18:47:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:If your knocking rails you need to knock the CR as well because it's just as effective , if not better .
Okay, knocking CRs as well! Especially those damned ACRs. Cloak + (A)CR = scrubmode. Can't wait for Destiny to come out--it's PVP is a different beast, but at least, IMO, classes and weapons are balanced. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kyoudai Furinkazan
1046
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:04:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:If your knocking rails you need to knock the CR as well because it's just as effective , if not better . Okay, knocking CRs as well! Especially those damned ACRs. Cloak + (A)CR = scrubmode. Can't wait for Destiny to come out--it's PVP is a different beast, but at least, IMO, classes and weapons are balanced.
It just sucks that you have to start over from the beta but I guess they didn't want people crying about unfair advantages .... kinda like a hint to what will happen when legion comes out and CCP's real attempt at trying to transfer resources from Dust .
It's gonna get messy .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:30:00 -
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Dont you follow the trace round? Its math in action. If you lead your target, the round hits target. Once round is fired, it needs just that nanosecond for merc to close the gap to the projectile, scoring a hit. Just watch the trace round.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
230
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:09:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:No, this is standard physics you fool!
Naismith's rule, for every degree of varation each kilometer out will result in 1 kilometer away from the target in the other axis.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . .Gûá X
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Gûá C
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gûá B
Assuming the Rail Rifle is situated at point X, a player strafing between the points at distance A will be as easy to track as player strafing between the points at distance B, meanwhile the player strafing between the points at distance C is even easier to track since the effects of parralax make it require less aiming.
You have now been educated what ever, RR still hits without actually having to have little dot on person. It's like giving everything in the game the hitbox of a heavy even though it's a scout. It's like that with every weapon, it's called dispersion, we complained because just pointing little dot at person is so easy it makes TTK too low. How about instead just ignoring what people are telling you. Learn that your super-scrub-chop-strafe doesn't work at range and consider using some intelligence and initiative to counter instead of just whining because your game breaking tactics don't work. If you don't like it go back to COD, you'll find the ranges of every engagement to be perfect for a chop strafer like yourself.
huh...
Why?
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
230
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:10:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:If your knocking rails you need to knock the CR as well because it's just as effective , if not better . Okay, knocking CRs as well! Especially those damned ACRs. Cloak + (A)CR = scrubmode. Can't wait for Destiny to come out--it's PVP is a different beast, but at least, IMO, classes and weapons are balanced.
I hated destiny pvp it was too small and very boring.
Why?
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
189
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Posted - 2014.08.11 20:13:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:They bullets are magnetic. It's like you don't even have to have sight on the person. I would like CCP to fix this B.S., I'm tired of losing super strafe minmatar scouts from 80m away to a militia rail rifle.
Nothing wrong with that gun, you suck. Uninstall.
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