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NO U TURN
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:55:00 -
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Scouts OP, nerf em all! |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:58:00 -
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NO U TURN wrote:Why should just cal scouts get a respec? I chose Amarr heavy because of all the low slots. They moved a slot to high and now its going back. Sure I was pissed 'at first' untill I found out it could survive an RE. Now I wont be able to survive an RE. Gimme Respect damn it!
I also have Amarr heavy and also asked that I receive a respec for it too. I definitely agree with you.
I dedicated this thread to the Cal Scout because I think the change being made to it fundamentally will change my playstyle and fundamentally contradicts the choice I made when I skilled into it. |
Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
10
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Posted - 2014.08.11 01:59:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:iliel wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:For only $10/month, the Dust 514 "FotM season pass" will transfer your hard-earned SP automatically. While it isn't technically a respec, it does keep you ahead of the curve and always invested in whatever gear is trending.
This is funny. But Amarr scout is not a FOTM (even though I'm still uncertain what this even means). In fact, the new Cal Scout might be better than it. My point though is that the new Cal Scout is not THE Cal Scout that has been on the battlefield. Therefore, we should be able to have what we chose - - not an assault suit, not a heavy suit, not a Gal Scout, but simply the Amarr. FOTM = Flavor of the Month Uprising 1.0 thru 1.6 - Go Slayer Logi or go home. Uprising 1.7 - The HAV ... "waves of opportunity" my arse. Uprising 1.8 - Everyone's a Scout! Uprising 1.8B - Mostly Heavies, still Scouts What stinks, is the "season pass" wouldn't even put you in the Amarr Scout suit after Charlie. You'd either end up in an Assault Suit or flying a Python. I don't want my Python to be FOTM, it doesn't deserve to go the same way my precious pre-1.8 scout went.
Kick reason out to the curb.
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2250
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:06:00 -
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iliel wrote:The Cal Scout is no longer the same suit. For good or for bad you're decision to remove precision in Charlie has also made the suit into something that it was not. We Cal scout users did not choose this suit and therefore should not be forced to use it.
Please allow us to reallocate our skill points.
Or, if you want to restrict us somehow, please allow us to have the GM reallocate our Cal scout sp into the role we did choose - - now, the Amarr scout.
Thank you. LOL
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:17:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:iliel wrote:The Cal Scout is no longer the same suit. For good or for bad you're decision to remove precision in Charlie has also made the suit into something that it was not. We Cal scout users did not choose this suit and therefore should not be forced to use it.
Please allow us to reallocate our skill points.
Or, if you want to restrict us somehow, please allow us to have the GM reallocate our Cal scout sp into the role we did choose - - now, the Amarr scout.
Thank you. LOL
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:19:00 -
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Soul Cairn wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:iliel wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:For only $10/month, the Dust 514 "FotM season pass" will transfer your hard-earned SP automatically. While it isn't technically a respec, it does keep you ahead of the curve and always invested in whatever gear is trending.
This is funny. But Amarr scout is not a FOTM (even though I'm still uncertain what this even means). In fact, the new Cal Scout might be better than it. My point though is that the new Cal Scout is not THE Cal Scout that has been on the battlefield. Therefore, we should be able to have what we chose - - not an assault suit, not a heavy suit, not a Gal Scout, but simply the Amarr. FOTM = Flavor of the Month Uprising 1.0 thru 1.6 - Go Slayer Logi or go home. Uprising 1.7 - The HAV ... "waves of opportunity" my arse. Uprising 1.8 - Everyone's a Scout! Uprising 1.8B - Mostly Heavies, still Scouts What stinks, is the "season pass" wouldn't even put you in the Amarr Scout suit after Charlie. You'd either end up in an Assault Suit or flying a Python. I don't want my Python to be FOTM, it doesn't deserve to go the same way my precious pre-1.8 scout went.
Right, they should subtract 500 shield from the Python rather than add it.
But yeah, please provide a reallocation option for Cal Scout SP. |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2446
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:26:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:If it is just a dropsuit respec then fine but realize that this will create chaos which is good or bad for the game. So wait, it's either good or bad? Fascinating!
K/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. It even fixes WP/D(r).
Beh!
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3156
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:32:00 -
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Translating...
CCP please don't take away my wall hacks. How will I ever be competitive without them
Escrow Removal and Acquisition- Our ERA has only just begun...
Gym Bro/ Meat Head -- CrossFit enthusiast
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:37:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Translating... CCP please don't take away my wall hacks. How will I ever be competitive without them
This is not untrue. |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis
193
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Posted - 2014.08.11 02:47:00 -
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iliel wrote:iliel wrote:Not a full respec. Reallocation of Cal Scout skills into the players' intended role. We chose precision so let us have that bonus. If this means that the devs have to reallocate points for us - - so be it.
But this is what we chose, and this game is about making choices. Regardless of the amount of precision bonus, we should have one. The Cal scout nerf is not a nerf, it is a change, and we should have the right not to accept this change. This is not to say I'm against a full respec. I am in fact all for one. But this thread is not about a full respec (at least not explicitly ). so all OH want a respect to use FOTM... HAHAHA no way scrubs!!!!
Cal scout will come back with a fix to shield vs armor balance
French Canadian Scrubs scout
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:54:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:iliel wrote:iliel wrote:Not a full respec. Reallocation of Cal Scout skills into the players' intended role. We chose precision so let us have that bonus. If this means that the devs have to reallocate points for us - - so be it.
But this is what we chose, and this game is about making choices. Regardless of the amount of precision bonus, we should have one. The Cal scout nerf is not a nerf, it is a change, and we should have the right not to accept this change. This is not to say I'm against a full respec. I am in fact all for one. But this thread is not about a full respec (at least not explicitly ). so all OH want a respect to use FOTM... HAHAHA no way scrubs!!!! Cal scout will come back with a fix to shield vs armor balance
Yes, all OH run cal scouts. |
Jaselyn Cabellos
Kitties of Doom
78
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Posted - 2014.08.11 03:58:00 -
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iliel wrote:The Cal Scout is no longer the same suit. For good or for bad you're decision to remove precision in Charlie has also made the suit into something that it was not. We Cal scout users did not choose this suit and therefore should not be forced to use it.
Please allow us to reallocate our skill points.
Or, if you want to restrict us somehow, please allow us to have the GM reallocate our Cal scout sp into the role we did choose - - now, the Amarr scout.
Thank you. From Brick tanked Scout to the next Race of brick tanked scouts. Pfft
Knifing Tanks to Death - Since 2016
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Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis
194
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:01:00 -
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iliel wrote:Morathi III wrote:iliel wrote:iliel wrote:Not a full respec. Reallocation of Cal Scout skills into the players' intended role. We chose precision so let us have that bonus. If this means that the devs have to reallocate points for us - - so be it.
But this is what we chose, and this game is about making choices. Regardless of the amount of precision bonus, we should have one. The Cal scout nerf is not a nerf, it is a change, and we should have the right not to accept this change. This is not to say I'm against a full respec. I am in fact all for one. But this thread is not about a full respec (at least not explicitly ). so all OH want a respect to use FOTM... HAHAHA no way scrubs!!!! Cal scout will come back with a fix to shield vs armor balance Yes, all OH run cal scouts. lot of you, like other competitive corp aanyway, it was OP to be realistic. sadly it will be not good for competitive gameplay until they balance shield vs armor and yes they change the role drastically to give it to an other class. To be fair you may have the choice to choose in between keeping cal scout or transfer the point in amarr scout. will not happen add to this if you have the choice to skill in anything else and i see your become an assault... i will be really pissed so im not agree with a respec
French Canadian Scrubs scout
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:26:00 -
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Morathi III wrote:iliel wrote:Morathi III wrote:iliel wrote:iliel wrote:Not a full respec. Reallocation of Cal Scout skills into the players' intended role. We chose precision so let us have that bonus. If this means that the devs have to reallocate points for us - - so be it.
But this is what we chose, and this game is about making choices. Regardless of the amount of precision bonus, we should have one. The Cal scout nerf is not a nerf, it is a change, and we should have the right not to accept this change. This is not to say I'm against a full respec. I am in fact all for one. But this thread is not about a full respec (at least not explicitly ). so all OH want a respect to use FOTM... HAHAHA no way scrubs!!!! Cal scout will come back with a fix to shield vs armor balance Yes, all OH run cal scouts. lot of you, like other competitive corp aanyway, it was OP to be realistic. sadly it will be not good for competitive gameplay until they balance shield vs armor and yes they change the role drastically to give it to an other class. To be fair you may have the choice to choose in between keeping cal scout or transfer the point in amarr scout. will not happen add to this if you have the choice to skill in anything else and i see your become an assault... i will be really pissed so im not agree with a respec
Yes sir, this is all I want - - a choice . |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
99
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Posted - 2014.08.11 04:28:00 -
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Jaselyn Cabellos wrote:iliel wrote:The Cal Scout is no longer the same suit. For good or for bad you're decision to remove precision in Charlie has also made the suit into something that it was not. We Cal scout users did not choose this suit and therefore should not be forced to use it.
Please allow us to reallocate our skill points.
Or, if you want to restrict us somehow, please allow us to have the GM reallocate our Cal scout sp into the role we did choose - - now, the Amarr scout.
Thank you. From Brick tanked Scout to the next Race of brick tanked scouts. Pfft
Sorry, but my triple precision Cal scout is the opposite of brick tanked. Annoying yes, but not ehp heavy.
I can't help it that the Amarr scout has that brick aspect. But I can assure you, should I get it, I'll run two range and two damps. |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
100
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:06:00 -
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Come on Rattati ... you know you want to give us a quick dropsuit respec or Cal Scout sp reallocation. |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
155
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Posted - 2014.08.11 15:44:00 -
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Dude, stop talking about "we" Cal scouts. You're giving "us" a bad name. You think you're some kind of spokesperson for all Cal scouts, let me break your bubble here. You're really not. The precision bonus needed a nerf especially in combination with the high slot numbers. You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here? with that setup you can still scan 95% of the players and you can now scan them from a greater distance too. |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.11 17:12:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:Dude, stop talking about "we" Cal scouts. You're giving "us" a bad name. You think you're some kind of spokesperson for all Cal scouts, let me break your bubble here. You're really not. The precision bonus needed a nerf especially in combination with the high slot numbers. You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here? with that setup you can still scan 95% of the players and you can now scan them from a greater distance too.
This is why VU has such a competitive team. |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
156
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:13:00 -
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What does my corp have to do with your thread? please point this out to me. And you did not really answer my question. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1939
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:16:00 -
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I hope CCP ignores this and forces you to spend your SP elsewhere like the rest of us.
It's absolutely childish to demand a respec only for your suit class because it's not special snowflake enough anymore.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
189
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Posted - 2014.08.11 19:33:00 -
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AGAIN FTOM CHASERS STOP CRYING FOR A RESPEC JUST BECAUSE A HOTFIX CHANGES THE FOTM....TRY BEING A REAL PLAYER AND ADAPT TO THE GAME INSTEAD OF ADAPT THE GAME TO YOU |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:23:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I hope CCP ignores this and forces you to spend your SP elsewhere like the rest of us.
It's absolutely childish to demand a respec only for your suit class because it's not special snowflake enough anymore.
Good news. They've ignored me. Bad news. I've saved 3mil sp for the suit I want come Charlie. |
Zindorak
1.U.P
586
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:25:00 -
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2 bad 4 u. You should of know better that an op suit will be nerfed
Pokemon master
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:25:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:AGAIN FTOM CHASERS STOP CRYING FOR A RESPEC JUST BECAUSE A HOTFIX CHANGES THE FOTM....TRY BEING A REAL PLAYER AND ADAPT TO THE GAME INSTEAD OF ADAPT THE GAME TO YOU
Ok. |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:26:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:2 bad 4 u. You should of know better that an op suit will be nerfed
Agreed. |
Zindorak
1.U.P
586
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:27:00 -
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iliel wrote:843-Vika wrote:AGAIN FTOM CHASERS STOP CRYING FOR A RESPEC JUST BECAUSE A HOTFIX CHANGES THE FOTM....TRY BEING A REAL PLAYER AND ADAPT TO THE GAME INSTEAD OF ADAPT THE GAME TO YOU Ok. Lol
Pokemon master
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iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:35:00 -
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Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude, stop talking about "we" Cal scouts. You're giving "us" a bad name. You think you're some kind of spokesperson for all Cal scouts, let me break your bubble here. You're really not. The precision bonus needed a nerf especially in combination with the high slot numbers. You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here? with that setup you can still scan 95% of the players and you can now scan them from a greater distance too.
Jack 3enimble wrote:
What does my corp have to do with your thread? please point this out to me. And you did not really answer my question.
The point of my original post was not that the nerf makes my suit unplayable but that it makes it uncompetitive in relation to its current role.. This is not to say the suit will no longer be competitive in any sense, but that it will no longer be competitive in relation its hunting ability. You've suggested that this untrue: "you can still scan 95% of the players." I think that this suggestion reflects not only on you but your corp as a whole. Does this not answer your question - - "You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here?" |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:40:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:iliel wrote:843-Vika wrote:AGAIN FTOM CHASERS STOP CRYING FOR A RESPEC JUST BECAUSE A HOTFIX CHANGES THE FOTM....TRY BEING A REAL PLAYER AND ADAPT TO THE GAME INSTEAD OF ADAPT THE GAME TO YOU Ok. Lol
I can't lie, I chase FOTM. Amarr Scout with that OP 18 prec and 30 range is the next FOTM, so everyone better get it quickly! |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
3103
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:40:00 -
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iliel wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude, stop talking about "we" Cal scouts. You're giving "us" a bad name. You think you're some kind of spokesperson for all Cal scouts, let me break your bubble here. You're really not. The precision bonus needed a nerf especially in combination with the high slot numbers. You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here? with that setup you can still scan 95% of the players and you can now scan them from a greater distance too.
Jack 3enimble wrote:
What does my corp have to do with your thread? please point this out to me. And you did not really answer my question.
The point of my original post was not that the nerf makes my suit unplayable but that it makes it uncompetitive in relation to its current role. This is not to say the suit will no longer be competitive in any sense, but that it will no longer be competitive in relation to its hunting ability. You've suggested that this untrue: "you can still scan 95% of the players." I think that this suggestion reflects not only on you but your corp as a whole. Does this not answer your question - - "You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here?"
I just have to say that this is a classic example of a non answer |
iliel
0uter.Heaven
101
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Posted - 2014.08.12 00:51:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:iliel wrote:Jack 3enimble wrote:
Dude, stop talking about "we" Cal scouts. You're giving "us" a bad name. You think you're some kind of spokesperson for all Cal scouts, let me break your bubble here. You're really not. The precision bonus needed a nerf especially in combination with the high slot numbers. You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here? with that setup you can still scan 95% of the players and you can now scan them from a greater distance too.
Jack 3enimble wrote:
What does my corp have to do with your thread? please point this out to me. And you did not really answer my question.
The point of my original post was not that the nerf makes my suit unplayable but that it makes it uncompetitive in relation to its current role. This is not to say the suit will no longer be competitive in any sense, but that it will no longer be competitive in relation to its hunting ability. You've suggested that this untrue: "you can still scan 95% of the players." I think that this suggestion reflects not only on you but your corp as a whole. Does this not answer your question - - "You say you run triple precision enhancers? what is your problem here?" I just have to say that this is a classic example of a non answer
That is the best kind of answer there is. |
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