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Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 607	Posted - 2014.08.10 19:55:00 - [1] - Quote Witnessed it in a little in Uprising 1.1 then very common in Uprising 1.7 then extremely common in Uprising 1.8 now Hotfix Charlie = Abundant. FACEPALM *EVE: LEGION ON PS4* RIP DUST. So much potential, December 2011 to May 2014
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11315	Posted - 2014.08.10 20:11:00 - [2] - Quote Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Zindorak 1.U.P 515	Posted - 2014.08.10 20:23:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Pokemon master
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3703	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:08:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Not fighting for the community since 2014.07.22
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1232	Posted - 2014.08.10 21:37:00 - [5] - Quote I was ramming a squad of FA ADS's earlier. Most fun I had in a while must have taken down 6 or 8 of them and ended up being the only target of an OB twice (was calling in DS behind redline). I just couldn't stop laughing the whole match. A ramming DS is already cheap enough for people to throw them away like trash so a price reduction isn't going to increase rammers. Hell, I'd wager it might decrease them cause it wouldn't be as fun if I'm not costing someone a bunch of ISK each time. Kill Scotty
Coleman Gray Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1015	Posted - 2014.08.10 22:32:00 - [6] - Quote Ramming speeeeeed! If Preparation is half of the battle and knowing is the other half, Then there is no need to fight.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3026	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:06:00 - [7] - Quote I love vehicles that jihad. I am totally in support of more vehicles ramming other vehicles. But then, any time vehicles are blowing up, I'm happy. ;) Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Not fighting for the community since 2014.07.22 It's not off the table. It's just not going to be in Charlie. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 734	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:33:00 - [8] - Quote Swarms already were bad at taking out Dropships. With Proto Swarms being nerfed yet again, expect this tactic to not only continue, but surge in popularity.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1095	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:42:00 - [9] - Quote i tryed ADS for the first time today on my ALT and as soon as i killed one guy there was ramming dropships forges and swarms everywhere. the rage that people feel when there is a ADS in the sky is hilarious. all you have to do is fly around in a ADS and the other team will stop hacking points just to hunt you down but they never can kill you so it drives them mad. KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
Morathi III Pro Hic Immortalis 194	Posted - 2014.08.11 03:42:00 - [10] - Quote might be sgt Kirk & regnyum remember the day where dropship was OP in cose beta.... sight... i will play ambush on a daily basis because of those dropship, they arent skilled player just a bunch of ppl that think they are good by one shot enemy that cant shoot at them... pathetic NOTE i know some where good before the time derpship was op to them congrats to the other... come on French Canadian Scrubs scout

Evolution-7 The Rainbow Effect 610	Posted - 2014.08.11 10:55:00 - [11] - Quote I don't mind rammers but its a heads up for the dev team. *EVE: LEGION ON PS4* RIP DUST. So much potential, December 2011 to May 2014
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 431	Posted - 2014.08.11 10:59:00 - [12] - Quote Lol rammers. I just go next to a building and afterburn up as they crash to a fiery death. If they do get me... meh. Wouldnt of minded a slightly more healthy wallet though. I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. 3 to go.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3706	Posted - 2014.08.11 11:34:00 - [13] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I love vehicles that jihad. I am totally in support of more vehicles ramming other vehicles. But then, any time vehicles are blowing up, I'm happy. ;) Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Not fighting for the community since 2014.07.22 It's not off the table. It's just not going to be in Charlie. All it requires is the changing of a few digits, it doesnt require a patch and can be done server side and a 5min job at best Its lazyness and you are letting them get away with it, again
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1921	Posted - 2014.08.11 11:56:00 - [14] - Quote If you think the CPM is anything more than a board of advisors then you are daft. There is no "letting" involved here. CCP will do what they decide to do regardless if the CPM says no. The CPM provides advice and player feedback. At no point do they get anything resembling final say in development of DUST or Legion. So blaming the CPM for anything is rather idiotic. Except Jenza. She is to blame for everything that goes wrong in DUST regardless of truth. After all. She took the heat for my antics a few times.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 1921	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:01:00 - [15] - Quote And since when is an ADS impossible to shoot down? They are warpoint pinatas. Just like tanks.
dzizur 6 dayz 67	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:01:00 - [16] - Quote don't be hating on ads pilots with <1 mil in their wallets man. besides, who in the right mind would use an ads to ram instead of std (which has moar hp and is cheaper?)
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2684	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:05:00 - [17] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I love vehicles that jihad. I am totally in support of more vehicles ramming other vehicles. But then, any time vehicles are blowing up, I'm happy. ;) Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Not fighting for the community since 2014.07.22 It's not off the table. It's just not going to be in Charlie. All it requires is the changing of a few digits, it doesnt require a patch and can be done server side and a 5min job at best Its lazyness and you are letting them get away with it, again The decision to not include it has nothing to do with the ability to do it. Email Me [email protected] Twitter @Judge_EVELegion
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 66	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:24:00 - [18] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: I was ramming a squad of FA ADS's earlier. Most fun I had in a while must have taken down 6 or 8 of them and ended up being the only target of an OB twice (was calling in DS behind redline). I just couldn't stop laughing the whole match, partially because I was doing the Jaws theme the whole time. A ramming DS is already cheap enough for people to throw them away like trash so a price reduction isn't going to increase rammers. Hell, I'd wager it might decrease them cause it wouldn't be as fun if I'm not costing someone a bunch of ISK each time. People like you that make us deserve an asteroid to sterilize the planet. We can add new LP items, but we need to see FW participation numbers go up to make it worth our time. - CCP Dev
dzizur 6 dayz 67	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:35:00 - [19] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was ramming a squad of FA ADS's earlier. Most fun I had in a while must have taken down 6 or 8 of them and ended up being the only target of an OB twice (was calling in DS behind redline). I just couldn't stop laughing the whole match, partially because I was doing the Jaws theme the whole time. A ramming DS is already cheap enough for people to throw them away like trash so a price reduction isn't going to increase rammers. Hell, I'd wager it might decrease them cause it wouldn't be as fun if I'm not costing someone a bunch of ISK each time. People like you that make us deserve an asteroid to sterilize the planet. have you ever tried ramming? i'm serious, I did and found out it's not that easy as it sounds (well apart from those which are spawncamping :P)
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3264	Posted - 2014.08.11 12:43:00 - [20] - Quote dzizur wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was ramming a squad of FA ADS's earlier. Most fun I had in a while must have taken down 6 or 8 of them and ended up being the only target of an OB twice (was calling in DS behind redline). I just couldn't stop laughing the whole match, partially because I was doing the Jaws theme the whole time. A ramming DS is already cheap enough for people to throw them away like trash so a price reduction isn't going to increase rammers. Hell, I'd wager it might decrease them cause it wouldn't be as fun if I'm not costing someone a bunch of ISK each time. People like you that make us deserve an asteroid to sterilize the planet. have you ever tried ramming? i'm serious, I did and found out it's not that easy as it sounds (well apart from those which are spawncamping :P) It's actually rather easy to avoid in an ADS, even without afterburners, the thing is the only reason dropship ramming is seen as poor practice is because people have the vehement hatred of ADSes that suppressing them isn't seen as enough, people absolutely have to destroy them and it's simply not necessary. Droping the price of Dropships will actually make ramming less of a problem, sure you've just rammed me, but I can afford to loose that dropship now, your not costing me my enjoyment of the game while have to put up with 2-4 pubstomps in frontline gear just so I can fly another. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3031	Posted - 2014.08.11 13:38:00 - [21] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: the thing is the only reason dropship ramming is seen as poor practice is because people have the vehement hatred of ADSes that suppressing them isn't seen as enough, people absolutely have to destroy them and it's simply not necessary. Actually, no. The reason people absolutely have to destroy them, is because you're playing an FPS, and you should die. If you aren't dying in a match, you need a nerf, so that you die more. Everyone should die. I don't go around not fully killing infantry because "well, I scared them off so that's good enough". No, I kill them. Because that's what you do. The idea that vehicle users shouldn't die and that AV should just be "suppressing" them is crazy. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3717	Posted - 2014.08.11 13:48:00 - [22] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: I love vehicles that jihad. I am totally in support of more vehicles ramming other vehicles. But then, any time vehicles are blowing up, I'm happy. ;) Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Atiim wrote: Judge says that there will be no price drop in Charlie. Not fighting for the community since 2014.07.22 It's not off the table. It's just not going to be in Charlie. All it requires is the changing of a few digits, it doesnt require a patch and can be done server side and a 5min job at best Its lazyness and you are letting them get away with it, again The decision to not include it has nothing to do with the ability to do it. The decision for the cpm to even not push for it to be included is somewhat telling
Chunky Munkey 5113	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:01:00 - [23] - Quote If you're in an ADS and get hit by a rammer, you f*cked up. Either you tried to hard to shoot them down, or didn't pay attention to your surroundings. Ramming an ADS was one of my favourite pastimes, but I only ever succeeded when a pilot overextended themselves, or when I swooped in like a madman from halfway across the map. Destiny won't kill Dust. CCP already did that.
dzizur 6 dayz 74	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:05:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: something something. I don't know if I understood your post, but what I meant, was that ramming an ads with another dropship can be a very challenging task. I've tried it on few ocassions, failed most of the time (or just circled around). Why did I do it? Why not use the swarms to drive them away? Because he was pissing me off for 1/2 of the match, running away from my swarms with 300-400 armor. So I decided it will be much easier and cheaper to use a standard ds and try to ram him and make him lose ~300-500 k (which would probably made him go ISK negative in that match) or at least do similar work to what swarms did ( he had no time to shoot at infantry when trying to outmaneuver me trying to ram him). (I hope this is comprehensible. I'm having some problems with my english lately :P)
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3031	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:05:00 - [25] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: The decision for the cpm to even not push for it to be included is somewhat telling What possibly leads you to believe it is not being pushed for? CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3717	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:50:00 - [26] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: The decision for the cpm to even not push for it to be included is somewhat telling What possibly leads you to believe it is not being pushed for? https://twitter.com/Judge_EVELegion Already giving up
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3031	Posted - 2014.08.11 14:55:00 - [27] - Quote A statement that it is not in the hotfix does not mean we aren't advocating for the change. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3717	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:18:00 - [28] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: A statement that it is not in the hotfix does not mean we aren't advocating for the change. EDIT: From Logibro: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2306119#post2306119 So basically judge is making you all look inept? Fact is from your link CCP are pulling both changes for ADS from charlie and it looks like the cpm aint doing anything about it and agreeing with ccp
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 1236	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:25:00 - [29] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Thumb Green wrote: I was ramming a squad of FA ADS's earlier. Most fun I had in a while must have taken down 6 or 8 of them and ended up being the only target of an OB twice (was calling in DS behind redline). I just couldn't stop laughing the whole match, partially because I was doing the Jaws theme the whole time. A ramming DS is already cheap enough for people to throw them away like trash so a price reduction isn't going to increase rammers. Hell, I'd wager it might decrease them cause it wouldn't be as fun if I'm not costing someone a bunch of ISK each time. People like you that make us deserve an asteroid to sterilize the planet. And the games CCP has made seem specifically designed to attract people like that. Perhaps that's their plan, get all the people like that hooked enough to go to fanfest and then crash an asteroid into it, talk about crowd control. It's such an asinine idea that I wouldn't put it pass CCP. Kill Scotty
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3033	Posted - 2014.08.11 15:31:00 - [30] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Fact is from your link CCP are pulling both changes for ADS from charlie and it looks like the cpm aint doing anything about it and agreeing with ccp Notice the all three replies to Logibro's post so far are thank yous. Seems to me that CCP is listening to community feedback on the matter. Personally, I'd like to see both changes in some form, but I'm also a big fan of doing multiple iterative changes rather than changing too much at one time, and unbalancing the game further. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.



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