As you see, the Cal scout must choose which bonus to favor whereas both the Amarr and the Gal can favor both.

To fix, either change both the Amarr and Gal scouts' second bonuses to being something that affects a module for their high slots (myofibril stimulants, damage mods, shield stuff, etc.) or change the Cal scout's second bonus to being something that affects a module for its high slots.

An easy fix would be to let Cal and Gal scout have the same bonuses (to both precision and dampening). The suits would be different given their different slot layouts.

The caldari doesn't have to pick a favorite bonus : The Caldari were given a dampening bonus to be competitive without the precision bonus. The Caldari still gets two bonuses no matter how you look at it it's not a module efficacy bonus. You should be happy that they even got dampening.

The amarr is also not getting a speed bonus.

I feel like running precisions on my Cal Scout will be a waste now... if Cal or Gal put just one dampener on they can still hide from two complex precision enhancers on my Cal Scouts... and I'm not likely going to run three precision enhancers unless I want to die in half a second to anything.

they made it so scouts r generally close in all max stats which sucks there should be some sort of individuality but not anymore they all can do about the same thing neither one is pariculary better at something except the min scout now. since it has hacking and knifing which gives it that something special which the other scouts have lost.

if they dont learn to do something right and quit making everything so bland im finally going to quit this hopeless game.
2 years down the drain thanks to a bunch of guys that dont even play their own game.

i mean wat is the point of 4 races if they r the same pretty much. where is the diversity

A 50% scan range bonus and a 15% dampening bonus isn't enough for you...? Christ.

Your just too nice Arkena .

As far as I know, efficacy bonuses for Scouts may still be on the table. Just not for Charlie.

The Scout Community discussed how/what/why at length in the Barbershop post Bravo and pitched our thinking to Rattati. While Rattati scrapped some of our concepts, he did seem to take our feedback/advice into account; it appeared that he liked the idea of efficacy bonuses. We intend to refine our proposal, but there are too many unknowns and variables in play to do so in advance of Charlie. We need to tinker with Charlie a 'bit before picking this conversation back up.

Basically, if Min scouts think range alone is so awesome, let CCP exchange the NK bonus with it. I mean: the Cal should have the knife bonus anyway.

Basically, if Min scouts think range alone is so awesome, let CCP exchange the NK bonus with it. I mean: the Cal should have the knife bonus anyway.

It disappoints me somewhat that anyone could say this about me.
I pride myself on being a sarcastic prick on the forums. I need to try harder, evidently.

Ill take the dampening off your hands, thank you very much.

... so long as Cal gets precision back.

I really don't think this is going to happen so long as shared passives are enabled.

The CalScout wasn't just a Scout Hunter, it was a free squad upgrade to Scout Hunter. I'm bummed as well; I skilled into CalScout to hunt FotM chasers, as did many other pre-1.8 Scouts. But the CalScout's shared scans were too good, and the game will likely be better off without them.

That said, our post-Charlie scan range will be strong and our capacity for precision remains relatively good. We'll still pickup undampened Scouts, which is fine by me. I suspect the CalScout will still make for a decent recon unit. If not, it'll make a good shield tanker.

I really don't think this is going to happen so long as shared passives are enabled.

being a sacrastic prick on dust forums? I think the competition is just too big :P

Basically, if Min scouts think range alone is so awesome, let CCP exchange the NK bonus with it. I mean: the Cal should have the knife bonus anyway.

The Cal Scout will be useless and quickly replaced by the Amarr - - at least in competetive matches.

As for the Cal's dampening, as Rattati has said, the only reason the Cal gets that bonus is to be able to be unscannable against Gal Logi Focus. Every other scout can do it without the bonus. Essentially, the Cal using all lows for damp is the same as the Min using all lows or the Amarr using all lows.

This means that the Cal only has one real bonus - - it's silly 50 meter range.

The Amarr gets prec, stamina, and can dampen.
The Min gets hacking, knife damage, and can dampen.
AND the Gal gets two or even three free low slots for WeTF it wants (speed, hacking, range, armor . . . ) and also decent enough precision to force at least an assault to wear 3 damps to be invisible.

I agree that the Min's bonus is mediocre compared to the Amarr and Gal. But this mediocrity depends on the current role of Nova Knives, which may change when proto Min scouts are destroying 6kehp tank with about 6 charge shots.

Anyway, main point: give the Cal back its precision or give me back my SP.

Did you just try to trade range bonus for NK bonus, I mean I like knives, but really?? Bruh be quiet and sit in a corner.

You should be thankful that the Cal is getting the same Dampening as the Gal. meanwhile every suit that has more than 2 slots (or Amarr) can beat the Gallente in precision (oh wait, that's all of them)