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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.05 22:32:00 -
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Not too sure about everyone else but it was, and people used to moan... but everybody did it. There was no unfair advantage and you could run any suit. Now..if there are scouts and you're constantly getting killed..because of passive scans and you're a Logi, or Assault you have to switch to a scout to counter. Its really annoying. Just my 2cents.
The game was more competitive even though everybody could see each other, now its just run the heavies or the scouts and could just be one of the reasons we see less of any of the other classes out there? I don't know, maybe its just me but it kind of gets boring when its redline after redline. Bring back 360 scans!
Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m
Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2794
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Posted - 2014.08.05 22:49:00 -
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How about no?
Having "Scan Attempt Prevented" imprinted onto my screen was fairly annoying. |
Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.08.05 22:51:00 -
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I agree with you, even though people kept scanning me.
360 scans were utter nonsense and scans needed the nerf they got, but they were the only imbalance in a pretty good ewar system. Tank 514 was probably Uprising's best. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3151
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Posted - 2014.08.05 22:55:00 -
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Aside from the moments where I got to knife scannerinas mid twirl, it was definitely not worth it.
This is how a minja feels
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
861
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Posted - 2014.08.05 23:32:00 -
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When vehicles had a Scan Profile over 45dB, things were better-ish.
Who farted?
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1209
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Posted - 2014.08.06 00:04:00 -
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Lots of people b!tch about scans but most people don't actually pay attention to their sonar. It's amazing being able to sneak up on a scout in a heavy suit.
Personally I preferred it when we had shared team scans. Always knew where the fight was without having to run around in circles with the blob.
Kill Scotty
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3093
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Posted - 2014.08.06 01:02:00 -
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Back when 360 perma scans were a thing, I did exceptionally well not because I abused the same tactic, but because I could fit several different suits with dampeners to avoid the scans.
I use to run a MinLogi with a shotgun. With several complex profile damps in my lows, shields in my highs, and my own scanner to accompany the rest of my equipment. I was speeding in and out of engagements, doing proper logi work when needed, and infiltrating areas to see if there were any threats around.
If when I was low on cash, I'd slap several profile dampeners onto my MLT Gallente or Assault G-1 and would run around like a stealthy cheap pseudo-scout.
It bothers me because scans back then could be easily avoided. However, very few wanted to give up their "tank" to fit ewar mods and further complained about the OPness of the scanner.
Now that scanners have been nerfed to crap and Scouts have become walking 360 invisible perma scanners, the game just isn't fun or balanced. Now, it's as if the only counter to a Scout's ewar is to be a Scout yourself. It wasn't like this before and it's a shame.
I miss my stealthy medium frames. I miss seeing "margin of error" when scanning a dampened Scout. It kept me on my toes. There was variety back then but players were just too stupid to change their fits and cried OP at everything they felt was unbalanced. |
Forever Smelly
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2014.08.06 01:02:00 -
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A majority of the complaining came from seeing "you have been scanned" on screen.
It was funny (not at the time, at the time it was enfuriating) when they added the cloaks and killed the scanners. Everybody said "oh ewar". The option was there from the begining, but nobody wanted to try to get under the old scanners. They had to kill them, add cloaks, add a bonus decrease to suit sig on the cloak module, then all the people with no gun game suddenly got all high and mighty, acting as if ewar was never an option before.
Everybody bitched and moaned about the invisibility glitch, until they were given a mod to replicate it. Then it was cool. CoD514. |
gustavo acosta
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
155
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Posted - 2014.08.06 01:12:00 -
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I hated that time because no matter what suit you wore you would die in less than a minute to any other suit/gun. In fact I would go as far as saying that was the worst time in the game, because it felt the most like call of duty, but that's only my opinion...
Gallente scout, heavy, logi, and assault
can't touch my post nerfed flaylock sun....
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.08.06 02:20:00 -
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Yea it was fun. Different game then. Dust was a bit intense then IMO. Told em adding WPs to scans was going to be a problem down the road but majority of folks pushed for it. Then hated it when implemaented.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
263
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Posted - 2014.08.06 03:09:00 -
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Most (not all but still most) dont event know whats a dampender. They only know how to stack hp. Thats thier only way of thinking.
Back to days of old scanners. Assaults with 2-3damps were invisible to scans.
But comunity want to stack 1-2k hp and be unscanable cus balance, Duh.
-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-
Markiplier fan.
Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
uptown456 Dark Taboo
529
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Posted - 2014.08.06 03:39:00 -
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I laughed when I saw someone do a ballerina twirl and then run past me after a "Scan Attempt Prevented" unless he was one of the few who ran duv focused in pubs.. I'd take the endless "Scan attempt prevented" then the cloaking asswipes any . Being invisible is too easy these days
Rage Proficiency V
Mic status: Muted
I AM Insane With Horrible Intervals Of Sanity
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2014.08.06 04:17:00 -
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Looks like no ones running gal logi ITT |
Mike De Luca
STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME
237
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Posted - 2014.08.06 04:35:00 -
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Kinda not missing those days for one reason n one reason only....my memories of that age are nothing but rage because that's when I started playing lol.
what i think of when charging fg
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Mr Hakyou
51
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Posted - 2014.08.06 06:19:00 -
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1.6 is love, 1.6 is liife. |
ROMULUS H3X
research lab
142
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Posted - 2014.08.06 06:19:00 -
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I think removing the directional arrow on the scanned clones on the radar should be removed in order to make it slightly more competitive.
Constantly seeing the direction the enemy is facing is just stupid in any game especially if its PERMENANT
Good job CCP you took away SCANERINAS because scanning 360 degrees was just stupid and broken. Instead made scouts into 24/7 scanerinas.
Where were they planning this would take us.
The lack of SKILL in this game was caused by the fact everyone FALLS BACK onto PERMA-SCAN-SCOUT. Maybe not everyone, but the skillLESS players who need to see how many times I folded my toilet paper before I wiped my ass....
NUFF SED
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
-Romulus H3X
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Boot Booter
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
831
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Posted - 2014.08.06 06:46:00 -
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Scout changes and assault buff should do the trick. I do miss being able to damp my min assault. Should be able to pretty well after Charlie.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1303
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Posted - 2014.08.06 08:38:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Back when 360 perma scans were a thing, I did exceptionally well not because I abused the same tactic, but because I could fit several different suits with dampeners to avoid the scans.
^^^^^ THIS
I used to do the same buddy. There wasnt many people with profile dampening so it was nice..if you invested the SP and sacrificed HP you would get under the scans, and that was the sacrifice I was willing to make. Now do I choose my proto scout or militia heavy...hmmm its pretty stupid.
Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m
Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1764
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Posted - 2014.08.06 08:39:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:I think removing the directional arrow on the scanned clones on the radar should be removed in order to make it slightly more competitive.
Constantly seeing the direction the enemy is facing is just stupid in any game especially if its PERMENANT
Good job CCP you took away SCANERINAS because scanning 360 degrees was just stupid and broken. Instead made scouts into 24/7 scanerinas.
Where were they planning this would take us.
The lack of SKILL in this game was caused by the fact everyone FALLS BACK onto PERMA-SCAN-SCOUT. Maybe not everyone, but the skillLESS players who need to see how many times I folded my toilet paper before I wiped my ass....
NUFF SED
The toilet paper line had me crying with laughter.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Full time scout, part time logi, full time awesome mute, full time autistic
/Z)/V//V /V//V_//\ 4ever
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1303
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Posted - 2014.08.06 08:41:00 -
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I must have read the toilet paper line the same time HAHAHa
Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m
Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
2037
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Posted - 2014.08.06 09:09:00 -
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The last time this game was "great" was in Chromosome, and EVERYONE had squad scans. Now a select few do, and those people who either aren't a scout or who don't stick close to one get ROFLraped buy the other team's scouts.
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1303
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Posted - 2014.08.06 09:17:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:The last time this game was "great" was in Chromosome, and EVERYONE had squad scans. Now a select few do, and those people who either aren't a scout or who don't stick close to one get ROFLraped buy the other team's scouts.
Of course Chromosome was great, but that was a long time ago. At least 360 scans was recent. Closed Beta was a completely different game to now..and the game we all wanted. Installations were crazy, sprint sway, female voice overs, Skirmish 1.0 incredible IMHO.
Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m
Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2609
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Posted - 2014.08.06 09:45:00 -
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Imo 360 scan need to go, they have eliminated it from active scanners, they need to eliminate it from passive scan.
Imagine to play hide and seek with someone that does not close his eyes when it's his turn to seek, that is how playing against scouts without a scout.
There is no drawback in having less HP if you can see where the enemy is facing, playing with a scout is like playing the first MGS, you have your radar, if you know the map, you can stop watching around and focus on the radar.
I've a scout suit, i've realized that everytime i play with it against other frames it's like i'm cheating.
A good solution would be to have a unlimited range of scan and decrease precision proportionally to the distance. Range amp would just decrease the decrease.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Uncesored FUCK
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3658
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Posted - 2014.08.07 14:01:00 -
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1. How does your CEO feel about this? 2. Are you aware that spin-scanning still works pretty well?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Sum1ne Else
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1318
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Posted - 2014.08.07 14:11:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:1. How does your CEO feel about this? 2. Are you aware that spin-scanning still works pretty well?
Who are you, and what have you done with my cat?
Longest PLC Kill - 193.71m
Logi mk.0 - Com gk.0 - Scout gk.0 - Ass ak.0
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
508
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:02:00 -
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Do you people really miss Nyain Scan that much?
Chillin, waitin on Legion.
Ishukone loyalist, Caldari Scout enthusiast!
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