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Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game Dark Taboo 243	Posted - 2014.08.02 18:59:00 - [1] - Quote Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here?
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:20:00 - [2] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11461	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:25:00 - [3] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3806	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:28:00 - [4] - Quote What i like to do: -methana with small rail (for anti infantry purpose @___@) -2 proto assault forgegunners -get behind a tank and start shoting it into little pieces of scrapmetal New shield module!
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5777	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:29:00 - [5] - Quote You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun... that is, if the driver is stupid enough to stay there while you're charging your second shot, and if you're lucky enough for them not to kill you in the process. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:30:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? Are you going to continue crying for nerfs to vehicles because you don't have the intelligence to take them down?
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11461	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:35:00 - [7] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? Are you going to continue crying for nerfs to vehicles because you don't have the intelligence to take them down? Ha Hahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 897	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:43:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? Are you going to continue crying for nerfs to vehicles because you don't have the intelligence to take them down? Ha Hahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Hairball Spittle Froth Hiss Backs away slowly http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 56	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:45:00 - [9] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? Are you going to continue crying for nerfs to vehicles because you don't have the intelligence to take them down? Ha Hahaha Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Laugh all you want, you continue to have vehicles nerfed due to your inability to think of anything other than "Y MY RIFFL NO KILL DIS TANK?!"
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 276	Posted - 2014.08.02 19:47:00 - [10] - Quote Wait. There's a "headshot" spot on the rectum of the vehicle? Good to know.... Yes, good... rubs hands together Dust servers will be a ghost town on 09/09/14 Destiny kicks ass... Like Halo knocked up Mass Effect and gave birth

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3076	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:05:00 - [11] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Of course you're misunderstanding everything. From what I gather, the infantry on here are shockingly bad at anything, especially dealing with vehicles, so they have them nerfed to the point where CCP thinks it's a good idea for a pair of knives to do decent damage to a tank. ... Are you seriously going to whine about knives dealing damage to vehicles? SERIOUSLY? I am going to give him a reason to cry once Charlie drops. This is how a minja feels
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 780	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:12:00 - [12] - Quote If you can get 2 shots on "the sweet spot" that means he sat there for at least 6-8 seconds (unless using a Gastun's, which is just dumb). He is not a good Pilot, and his HAV is a piece of **** also. Who farted?
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 510	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:21:00 - [13] - Quote OP FOTM wrote: Wait. There's a "headshot" spot on the rectum of the vehicle? Good to know.... Yes, good... rubs hands together There sure is. On tanks, it's the dark square-ish area on the back middle that kinda looks like a battery pack, or something. Not sure where it is on derps, though, anybody know? Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:26:00 - [14] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 6 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 2 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Fixed. Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 524	Posted - 2014.08.02 20:33:00 - [15] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: OP FOTM wrote: Wait. There's a "headshot" spot on the rectum of the vehicle? Good to know.... Yes, good... rubs hands together There sure is. On tanks, it's the dark square-ish area on the back middle that kinda looks like a battery pack, or something. Not sure where it is on derps, though, anybody know? The little turbine things on the sides of the drop ship (towards the back) Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted I AM Insane With Horrible Intervals Of Sanity
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11196	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:11:00 - [16] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... I haven't seen any complaints about HAVs on the forums lately, but I guess I've got time to entertain you. You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... If you let someone hit your weakspot, your a scrub who's obviously parked on a point/camping a spawn point, or someone who feels as if they can just stand perfectly still and pick their noses. You should be punished for your gross incompetence. if you let someone get within -at most- 9.2m of your vehicle long enough to throw 2 (or even 1 grenade) which takes at least 3 seconds for each grenade (not including travel time); then your an even greater scrub who should be punished for your gross incompetence. Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... The only AV weapon that has ever flipped me upside down is a Large Missile Turret, and even then it was because I was flying too low to the ground, and not moving around enough. Player incompetence is not a valid argument. Forge Guns don't flip me completely over, Railguns don't, and heck even a Wyrikomi/IASLs don't flip me completely over. As for being 2HK'd without hardeners, my Incubus would say otherwise. Assuming Prof V, 3 Complex Amplifiers, and no Reps between hits: Kaalakiota FG = 3HK (9s) Wyrikomi Breach FG = 2HK (8s) Ishukone Assault FG = 3HK (6.75s) It should be noted, that even though the Wyrikomi BFG can 2HK kill me, it will never happen because of my Afterburner, which allows me to evade his lock range in 4s (twice the time it takes for him to charge a single shot) So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? I've done math in previous posts proving that the only vehicles in the game which can be OHK'd is either a Base Sica or MLT LAV. If you find yourself getting OHK'd with anything else, you should contact your Optometrist immediately. Though hit-per-hit engagements aren't really valid, as it doesn't factor in the time it takes for each target to get a kill. If we were to balance things based solely on that, PLCs would be considered as the most OP weapon in DUST, while the CR would be considered one of the most UP in DUST. Hotfix Charlie = Uprising 1.7 -HAND
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16062	Posted - 2014.08.02 21:22:00 - [17] - Quote I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
Major Crapshot Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:43:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. Speaking as a noob to both the game (2 months) and the forums (1st post): I just restarted a new character after I didn't like my first one and now I just graduated the academy. For me it is now a matter of start grinding for ISK to at least buy MLT heavy/forge combo to have in my clone's locker while I skill into it. I love AV! Did it with my first. In fact, my last battle at the academy saw me shoot down a Gorgon dropship and then the pilot in the head with a hacked railgun turret. I guess my gungame IS getting better. Hope that wasn't a training flight... My name says it all. So if you see me, stand completely still. I'll probably miss. Remember: Stand completely still!
Major Crapshot Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:58:00 - [19] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Have you ever seen the movie Kelly's Heros? If not, then watch it. One of the best lines was from Donald Sutherland who was a Sherman tank commander in WWII and he said (paraphrasing): "You know how to kill a Tiger tank? You shoot him in the ass, baby!" My name says it all. So if you see me, stand completely still. I'll probably miss. Remember: Stand completely still!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16066	Posted - 2014.08.02 23:36:00 - [20] - Quote Major Crapshot wrote: Derpty Derp wrote: Just incase everyone bitching about vehicles being op because they can kill you if you stand in their line of sight long enough without shooting them... You can 2 shot a madrugar with a decent forge gun if you shoot at the back in the middle... You can down anything with shields in 1 shot if you throw 2 flux grenades, but if you can't be bothered to carry them, well you can shoot the weak point and it might take 3 or 4 shots 'because shield hardeners' but it'll die... Dropships can be flung upside down... Thrown into walls... Or if you fire at the back end of a Bus (basically anywhere on the rear half) it will deal massive damage... You can 2 shot most of them if they don't pop hardeners... So lets say we nerf vehicles because we can... it takes 3 or 4 missles to down a heavy suit... But you're okay with being able to 1 shot vehicles? Am I misunderstanding something here? Have you ever seen the movie Kelly's Heros? If not, then watch it. One of the best lines was from Donald Sutherland who was a Sherman tank commander in WWII and he said (paraphrasing): "You know how to kill a Tiger tank? You shoot him in the ass, baby!" Tanks have to breath and its either the ass end or top side. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked

J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2014.08.02 23:46:00 - [21] - Quote Yeeeuuuupppp wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: OP FOTM wrote: Wait. There's a "headshot" spot on the rectum of the vehicle? Good to know.... Yes, good... rubs hands together There sure is. On tanks, it's the dark square-ish area on the back middle that kinda looks like a battery pack, or something. Not sure where it is on derps, though, anybody know? The little turbine things on the sides of the drop ship (towards the back) Thanks dude. Nice to know all I have to do is aim for the ass-end of any vehicle, to cram one up their blowhole. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3811	Posted - 2014.08.02 23:57:00 - [22] - Quote It is not that hard to kill tanks espacially if you have organised forgegunners patroling for them in a LAV. New shield module!
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2014.08.03 00:21:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. You're probably in the VR Room noticing how the physics are better, aircraft are better, tanks are better, and the infantry weapons kill infantry faster, instead of on 1 of 4 continents, one 1 out of 3 factions at a time, just not playing against anybody else to notice how often you'll get killed by heavies. Seems you haven't been paying attention to the world since being drafted as CPM (plain)0. Infantry has a ton of options for destroying vehicles when they're not in one themselves. At least in PS2, you can't have both a cloak and C4, because they at least recognized how insanely stupidly OP that is.
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2014.08.03 00:34:00 - [24] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: It is not that hard to kill tanks espacially if you have organised forgegunners patroling for them in a LAV. Really now? You've been one of the chief complainers against vehicles, now you're singing the praises of teamwork against them?
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 170	Posted - 2014.08.03 00:37:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. I do it, just I don't play dust all day like I used to so not much people know....and I plan on MAXING on ps2... Max level brony. Pink fluffy unicorns http://youtu.be/C34BzC7rnos Best song evar.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 16068	Posted - 2014.08.03 00:38:00 - [26] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. You're probably in the VR Room noticing how the physics are better, aircraft are better, tanks are better, and the infantry weapons kill infantry faster, instead of on 1 of 4 continents, one 1 out of 3 factions at a time, just not playing against anybody else to notice how often you'll get killed by heavies. Seems you haven't been paying attention to the world since being drafted as CPM (plain)0. Infantry has a ton of options for destroying vehicles when they're not in one themselves. At least in PS2, you can't have both a cloak and C4, because they at least recognized how insanely stupidly OP that is. Or I am stuck on the worst server still (emerald) on the worst faction (NC) CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2014.08.03 00:47:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: DontChimpOut wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am waiting for the video of a Novaknife on maddy kill. As for infantry sucking against vehicles I been noticing it as well in PS2; nobody wants to play the heavy class there to shoot vehicles up. You're probably in the VR Room noticing how the physics are better, aircraft are better, tanks are better, and the infantry weapons kill infantry faster, instead of on 1 of 4 continents, one 1 out of 3 factions at a time, just not playing against anybody else to notice how often you'll get killed by heavies. Seems you haven't been paying attention to the world since being drafted as CPM (plain)0. Infantry has a ton of options for destroying vehicles when they're not in one themselves. At least in PS2, you can't have both a cloak and C4, because they at least recognized how insanely stupidly OP that is. Or I am stuck on the worst server still (emerald) on the worst faction (NC) btw the tree house by the north east gate on hossin is the by far the absolutely most stupidest base placement/design/and lack of considerations of. That sort of base belongs more in the midway point. You're not stuck on anything, there's 3 factions and 3 free character slots. What the hell are you complaining about again?


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