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TritusX
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Posted - 2014.12.14 18:36:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:RESSURECT
Well, it's been two months now :/
I still suck.
I've seen that NK is getting to be really difficult now, to the point of me going like 2/15.
WHAT DO?? Its not just you... The nerfs to shotguns scouts have hit knifers harder because they were too broad. I have seen one person start using a Minmatar Assault as a knifer with greater effect than he used his Minmatar Scout. My suggestion would be to try other roles that you can live with, significantly change your tactics by being super picky with your targets, or maybe try the Min Assault for knifing instead. I won't lie, I am sort of at a loss myself, though others seem to not be having the same problems. So I guess that my life as a NK is coming to a halt for now. Maybe I'll try slayer scout lol Anyway, I have Dampening 5, NK 5, and Proficiency 1. I have Range Amp at 4, and Precision at 2. Should I try to get these to 5? Precision yes. After that, I would even recommend holding off for awhile and saving SP until you get a fuller idea of how things play out, that being said, here are my other recommendations. Proficiency I wouldn't get above 3 right now. Levels 4 and 5 are awfully expensive for what little you gain there. Seriously think about skilling Minmatar Assault to 3, unless you are opposed to FotM. Do you have any skill into KinCats? Those can be fun and helpful as well. Also consider trying out MDs, PLCs, and Flaylocks, particularly if you are still seeing a lot of shotgun scouts. Those are good at dispatching them, since Knives are very difficult against shotguns.
Thanks. Just saying, why Min Asssault? EHP and Speed sort of thing? If anything, I'll try Min Assault on a alt later to see how it does.
KinCats. I have an ADV Min Scout, and one KinCat bumps my speed up 5%, and I need the other slot for a damp. How many slots does a proto Min Scout have?
If only you could attach RE to yourself and kamikaze a tank
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.12.14 21:14:00 -
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TritusX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:RESSURECT
Well, it's been two months now :/
I still suck.
I've seen that NK is getting to be really difficult now, to the point of me going like 2/15.
WHAT DO?? Its not just you... The nerfs to shotguns scouts have hit knifers harder because they were too broad. I have seen one person start using a Minmatar Assault as a knifer with greater effect than he used his Minmatar Scout. My suggestion would be to try other roles that you can live with, significantly change your tactics by being super picky with your targets, or maybe try the Min Assault for knifing instead. I won't lie, I am sort of at a loss myself, though others seem to not be having the same problems. So I guess that my life as a NK is coming to a halt for now. Maybe I'll try slayer scout lol Anyway, I have Dampening 5, NK 5, and Proficiency 1. I have Range Amp at 4, and Precision at 2. Should I try to get these to 5? Precision yes. After that, I would even recommend holding off for awhile and saving SP until you get a fuller idea of how things play out, that being said, here are my other recommendations. Proficiency I wouldn't get above 3 right now. Levels 4 and 5 are awfully expensive for what little you gain there. Seriously think about skilling Minmatar Assault to 3, unless you are opposed to FotM. Do you have any skill into KinCats? Those can be fun and helpful as well. Also consider trying out MDs, PLCs, and Flaylocks, particularly if you are still seeing a lot of shotgun scouts. Those are good at dispatching them, since Knives are very difficult against shotguns. Thanks. Just saying, why Min Asssault? EHP and Speed sort of thing? If anything, I'll try Min Assault on a alt later to see how it does. KinCats. I have an ADV Min Scout, and one KinCat bumps my speed up 5%, and I need the other slot for a damp. How many slots does a proto Min Scout have?
Proto Minjas have 3 slots each side.
I say Minmatar Assault because of the EWAR changes. Now that you can essentially play an assault like a scout, you can dampen near as well, and since you were going to get scanned in short ranges no matter what you did as a scout, you might as well have more HP to do it with.
Plus, as an assault, you have more slots with which to adjust your suit. So you can be nearly as dampened (or more so depending on a scout's fitting), be nearly as fast, and have 2 or 3 times the HP.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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TritusX
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Posted - 2014.12.16 00:22:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:TritusX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:
Its not just you...
The nerfs to shotguns scouts have hit knifers harder because they were too broad.
I have seen one person start using a Minmatar Assault as a knifer with greater effect than he used his Minmatar Scout.
My suggestion would be to try other roles that you can live with, significantly change your tactics by being super picky with your targets, or maybe try the Min Assault for knifing instead.
I won't lie, I am sort of at a loss myself, though others seem to not be having the same problems.
So I guess that my life as a NK is coming to a halt for now. Maybe I'll try slayer scout lol Anyway, I have Dampening 5, NK 5, and Proficiency 1. I have Range Amp at 4, and Precision at 2. Should I try to get these to 5? Precision yes. After that, I would even recommend holding off for awhile and saving SP until you get a fuller idea of how things play out, that being said, here are my other recommendations. Proficiency I wouldn't get above 3 right now. Levels 4 and 5 are awfully expensive for what little you gain there. Seriously think about skilling Minmatar Assault to 3, unless you are opposed to FotM. Do you have any skill into KinCats? Those can be fun and helpful as well. Also consider trying out MDs, PLCs, and Flaylocks, particularly if you are still seeing a lot of shotgun scouts. Those are good at dispatching them, since Knives are very difficult against shotguns. Thanks. Just saying, why Min Asssault? EHP and Speed sort of thing? If anything, I'll try Min Assault on a alt later to see how it does. KinCats. I have an ADV Min Scout, and one KinCat bumps my speed up 5%, and I need the other slot for a damp. How many slots does a proto Min Scout have? Proto Minjas have 3 slots each side. I say Minmatar Assault because of the EWAR changes. Now that you can essentially play an assault like a scout, you can dampen near as well, and since you were going to get scanned in short ranges no matter what you did as a scout, you might as well have more HP to do it with. Plus, as an assault, you have more slots with which to adjust your suit. So you can be nearly as dampened (or more so depending on a scout's fitting), be nearly as fast, and have 2 or 3 times the HP.
Okay. The new update is making EWAR hard, so I think I can start tanking a little bit and let's see what happens. I'd still like my NK Bonus, so I'll try Min Scout for now still. BTW, do you think we could squad up some time? Just need a fellow minja to run around with 
Now noobish questions. Should I run a Assault SMG (ADV Version. Is there a standard?) or Assault CR (ADV or STD? I have around 6m ISK)?
If only you could attach RE to yourself and kamikaze a tank
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2014.12.16 00:46:00 -
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Yes, the new EWAR is making things more difficult for scouts as a whole. That was the intention, I just think it was gone about the wrong way.
I don't mind squadding together at all, but I don't play as much anymore, maybe once or twice every couple weeks because of in game frustrations. I would look up the chat channel Nova Knifers United, as there are lots of minja and other knifers there that I sometimes squad with. I will definitely hit you up if I am in game (though I don't use mic).
As for the weaponry, the Assault CR is much more powerful than either the SMG or Assault SMG. Those are primarily finishers, which is good if that is what you are looking for. I myself prefer the regular burst CR because it is cheaper, and is a bit more powerful, though less spray and pray.
You are more than welcome to join us in the Barbershop in the Locker Room as well. Its a largely scout thread (re named Barbershop because of knives) and it is a good place to learn about scout related things, and discuss problems potential solutions etc.
I run only a Minja, and my weapons experience is much more limited, so they are a good resource for other weaponry ideas, tactics etc. Sometimes the other people in there have some unique fits and advice that you might find helpful as well.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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