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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:20:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:OP FOTM wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Min scout was never intended to be an E-war specialized scout.
I think its always be meant to be an infiltration unit specialized in quick assassination (hit and RUN tactics).
You get in, kill a couple of mofos with NK, Hack , GT*O....
at least thats how i've always seen them...
Good luck then with your Scout of preference. The Gal scout is nice to be invisible but you will need 2 out of 4 slots for dampeners so you know.
The Amarr will be the best scan it seems ,but as amarr dont think catching up to those Min scouts XD
THEY RUN FAST.
Even with the Min scout, the passive scanning,range and dampening help the Min scout at lot, at least to avoid everything but E-war Specialized scouts and Gal logis :3 While having enough scan to know where everything is, except Dampened Scouts and HEAVY dampened med frames.
OVerall, it helps a lot regardless of your scout of choosing....
I would argue precision is useless on a Minja unless you're trying to scan undampened Gallente/Caldari, or medium suits that dampen. Look at the numbers on that spreadsheet, they're terrible. Range I would also argue is useless because you need those low slots for better things. You're right. I have had a Minja character for a while, but I skilled into the wrong things like combat rifle and dampening. I guess I should make a new one with kin cats and try that out. I figured dampening was more useful for knives but I was wrong. I die a lot when I try to use that character and I'd probably be better with kin cats. getting level 5 in all skills helps the minja very handily, as more range means you can assess better targets from further, dampening means your harder to find (haven't don't the math, but I think it takes minimum proto scanner on a GalLogi to find you before dampening) and while amarr will have better precision and can see you, that isn't your job. You're job is to get in fast, strike hard, and leave. Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. You're passing on the closest thing this game has to Bruce Lee because it can't be Sam Fischer. Never pass on a Bruce Leee suit.
Depends on how you play Sam Fischer, my playstyle was always.
I can't be caught if there is no-one left alive to catch me!
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:43:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote: if kin cats gave you better movement AND sprint speed...
Faster base movement = faster strafe = no
Strafe is arguably borked as is.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:16:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:I don't know you are reading this right.
The Charlie changes are a major boon to Minjas. As it currently stands, we aren't able to dampen enough to beat a fully precisioned Cal scout.
Once charlie drops, even a maxed precision Amarr scout and a focused Gal Logi with a focused scanner can't pick us up if we are fully dampened and running a proto cloak (which may change if they happen to give cloaks a flat 10% dampening bonus across tiers).
Once they ditched the old cloak bonus in Alpha, we became damn near useless. Charlie gives us a role, and the ability to adapt and hide if absolutely necessary.
This is one of the best times in Dust's history to become a Minja!
Thanks for clarifying, I honestly didn't understand the OP, but I was trying...
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Symbioticforks
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 15:17:00 -
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lol
^^CCP IGNORES ALL SNIPER RELATED ISSUES^^
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Al the destroyer
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:26:00 -
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Without any help in the PG area of the minscout the suit will still be the worst of the 4. You can't even come close to fitting proto everything but it would be nice to fit a proto cloak and a kin cat at least once again CCP has let the min scout down. Sure you can fit a proto cloak and a kin kat with standerd wweapons don't even think about that with codebreakers and have any heath. Such a fail
What sum get sum!
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Varoth Drac
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:30:00 -
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I believe they are planning on reducing the pg requirements for kincats, code breakers and nova knives, which should help the pg situation a fair amount. |
Al the destroyer
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.28 16:58:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:I believe they are planning on reducing the pg requirements for kincats, code breakers and nova knives, which should help the pg situation a fair amount.
To what there is no numbers. I do hope this is the case but I won't hold my breath.
What sum get sum!
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:01:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:You guys are misunderstanding.
I didn't say not to use biotics on the Gallente. I actually would use them a lot.
And the whole point of this thread wasn't that I'd already skilled into Minja, it was because I'm trying to pick a scout for my MAIN character that already has a Logi and a Heavy. The Minja character only has 3 million SP.
And 843-Vika... precision on minmatar is useless if you don't have at least 2 of them... You won't even pick up a Gallente without any dampeners on. That's sad. Put another precision on.
since i have max eWAR skills i don't find that the extra precision is really needed, but ill try it out
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:06:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:I believe they are planning on reducing the pg requirements for kincats, code breakers and nova knives, which should help the pg situation a fair amount.
Prototype Nova Knives only cost 8 pg, so whats the point of lowering it even more? It already the cheapest cpu/pg costing side arm in the game. |
Texs Red
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.28 17:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
Min scout was never intended to be an E-war specialized scout.
I think its always be meant to be an infiltration unit specialized in quick assassination (hit and RUN tactics).
You get in, kill a couple of mofos with NK, Hack , GT*O....
Correction, the Minmatar was never intended to be a passive scan based E-WAR scout. By it's very principle hacking is E-WAR (Electronic Warfare) so yes, you very much are an E-WAR specialized scout.
E-WAR is not strictly limited to the concepts of scanning, although currently that is the primary function most people think about.
I am hoping in Legion they will expand upon the ideas of ground based E-WAR that was never done in Dust because I think that after full racial parity of weapons, dropsuits, and vehicles that E-WAR will be the next biggest factor in how the game is played.
Ex:
Contained gravity well, changes trajectory of shots that pass through it (Amarr)
Energy drain, AoE that rapidly drains stamina (Amarr)
Deloyable heat sink, reducing heat build-up in AoE (Amarr)
Sensor jammer, blocking all scanning in an area (Caldari)
Drop shields, creating an instant barrier (Caldari)
Flashbang grenades (Caldari)
Delayed hack, hack an installation but wait to turn it until you send a remote signal (Gallente)
Area dampener, lowing suit dB in a small mobile area (Gallente)
Deloyable hologram, create a hologram of a dropsuit or vehicle to fool enemies (Gallente)
Grenades that leave an AoE that accelerates heat build-up (Minmatar)
Grenade/equipment that slows enemies in an AoE (Minmatar)
Target painter, lights up a single target on scans for a long period of time (Minmatar) |
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