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Death Shadow117
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.25 22:37:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Stop it! This games already somewhat balanced. And no more op threads either youre confusing the hell out of the devs, im sure. These threads will end when someone in CCP grows a brain and decide is a good idea to give their players a Respec option they can use every 2-3 months...Then , no one will have to cry their stuff has been nerfedThen, all the FOTM chasers will make obvious whats broken in no time for CCP to fix Then. every player can test every fit and dropsuit and weapon to decide what truly they want to become Then, no matter what CCP f***s up, players will be able to play the game at full while they fix it back Then we will have peace in the kingdom...
Good idea but itll fail for the reason that itll be vetter geared towards high SP player because theyll still get more sp back than low SP players. So in conclusion to fix the refund gap lower the sp that higher SP players get back to at least slow the combinations.
What?
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2014.07.26 03:44:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:DontChimpOut wrote:Atiim wrote:When the game becomes perfectly balanced, then sure. You wouldn't know balance if you had to depend on it to live. Said Spkr4TheDead. Ironically, i kinda miss that guy posting...his threads you could laugh at because they were just a Spkr thread. Now we have these heavies whose biggest complaint is "QQ scouts QQ they QQ first QQ wah". Its just not as entertaining.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
188
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Atiim wrote:When the game becomes perfectly balanced, then sure. Itll only be balanced when people stop saying things are op. Its an endless cycle.What would be an absolute balanced game to you? Well,
- When every item has to make a proportionate sacrifice for each gain.
- When every weapon has a TTK involving a reasonable tradeoff between range and DPS.
- When every role is perfectly viable, with none being completely superior than the other.
- When every weapon is perfectly viable, and all perform reasonably well within it's intended niche.
- When every item has a purpose, and a use in a preferred situation.
- When every tactic/item has a reasonably successful counter barring itself.
- When no Dropsuit can fit both PRO Modules & PRO Weaponry without sacrifices.
- WP/D Matchmaking
That's a perfectly balanced game. You f*cked us all at matchmaking
I'll see you guys on Legion when the Steambox is released
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
188
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Posted - 2014.07.26 05:52:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Stop it! This games already somewhat balanced. And no more op threads either youre confusing the hell out of the devs, im sure. These threads will end when someone in CCP grows a brain and decide is a good idea to give their players a Respec option they can use every 2-3 months...Then , no one will have to cry their stuff has been nerfedThen, all the FOTM chasers will make obvious whats broken in no time for CCP to fix Then. every player can test every fit and dropsuit and weapon to decide what truly they want to become Then, no matter what CCP f***s up, players will be able to play the game at full while they fix it back Then we will have peace in the kingdom... Good idea but itll fail for the reason that itll be vetter geared towards high SP player because theyll still get more sp back than low SP players. So in conclusion to fix the refund gap lower the sp that higher SP players get back to at least slow the combinations. Make a respec cost a decent percentage of your SP. like 30% for those with under 10mil. 40% for those with under 20mil. and 50% for those above. A respec shouldnt be cheap. SP is the most valuable currency in this game, you shouldnt get a free second chance. As for me, I'm perfectly fine being an Omni-Merc. Level 3 scout, commando and logi. I value dropsuit upgrades over black suits
I'll see you guys on Legion when the Steambox is released
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10945
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Posted - 2014.07.26 06:00:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Atiim wrote:843-Vika wrote: He will be happy when this game is just as bad as CoD
And how does any of that relate to CoD? Because most of the QQes came for games like CoD where its a twitch shooter and its usually " i shot you first so you die first " and they have no skill or gun game, so they cry that stuff is OP or become FoTM chasers. I will admit that there have been times when there have been things in game that were broken and needed to be fixed but not as much as twitch shooters cry and whine about Do you have actual evidence proving that the majority of players that complain about items being overpowered come from twitch shooters such as Call of Duty?
If so, may I see your sources?
And nothing of value was lost that day...
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.26 15:05:00 -
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Atiim wrote:843-Vika wrote:Atiim wrote:843-Vika wrote: He will be happy when this game is just as bad as CoD
And how does any of that relate to CoD? Because most of the QQes came for games like CoD where its a twitch shooter and its usually " i shot you first so you die first " and they have no skill or gun game, so they cry that stuff is OP or become FoTM chasers. I will admit that there have been times when there have been things in game that were broken and needed to be fixed but not as much as twitch shooters cry and whine about Do you have actual evidence proving that the majority of players that complain about items being overpowered come from twitch shooters such as Call of Duty? If so, may I see your sources?
how ong after open beta and game release did the forums go from constructive feed back to QQ threads like " The Ar is to weak, I shoot at people and they still kill me" or "tank are to strong, i can't kill them" etc etc etc.
This is only after the time when every one else that plays an FPS like CoD or BF or any other FPS ( just rolled out of bed so can't think of others ), so when i say twitch fps gamers are the core of the QQers because Dust 514 is not a twitch shooter, so they suck at it and either QQ untill they get the nerf or buff, or just become FoTM chasers.
People are QQing because they want the game to adapt to them, instead of adapt to the game, and that causes everyone else to suffer.
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.07.27 02:46:00 -
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
28
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Posted - 2014.07.27 03:18:00 -
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I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. |
Abraham Baby Fish
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
28
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:01:00 -
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Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles
Proudly a baby fish and a caldari loyalist.
Sentinel ck.0, Scout ck.0. Either my sentinel is dead.
i like burritos.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
148
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:23:00 -
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Abraham Baby Fish wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles
english please, espically since this is english forums....if you can't respect us enough to post in way we understand then STFU and GTFO |
Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2947
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Posted - 2014.07.28 19:34:00 -
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I support nerfing everything.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
148
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:00:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I support nerfing everything.
Then go back to CoD and leave the real gamers alone |
B145PH3M3R
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
30
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:37:00 -
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:43:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:I support nerfing everything. Then go back to CoD and leave the real gamers alone http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Association_fallacy
And nothing of value was lost that day...
-HAND
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2725
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:48:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Atiim wrote:When the game becomes perfectly balanced, then sure. Itll only be balanced when people stop saying things are op. Its an endless cycle.What would be an absolute balanced game to you? Well,
- When every item has to make a proportionate sacrifice for each gain.
- When every weapon has a TTK involving a reasonable tradeoff between range and DPS.
- When every role is perfectly viable, with none being completely superior than the other.
- When every weapon is perfectly viable, and all perform reasonably well within it's intended niche.
- When every item has a purpose, and a use in a preferred situation.
- When every tactic/item has a reasonably successful counter barring itself.
- When no Dropsuit can fit both PRO Modules & PRO Weaponry without sacrifices.
- WP/D Matchmaking
That's a perfectly balanced game. Even I, who has not finished his own game yet, understands this. Dammit, CCP. You are getting paid to do this. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2725
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Posted - 2014.07.28 20:50:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Abraham Baby Fish wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles english please, espically since this is english forums....if you can't respect us enough to post in way we understand then STFU and GTFO If that is the case, then improve your writing skills. Your typing as well. |
Abraham Baby Fish
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
28
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:39:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Abraham Baby Fish wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles english please, espically since this is english forums....if you can't respect us enough to post in way we understand then STFU and GTFO "espically"
Proudly a baby fish and a caldari loyalist.
Sentinel ck.0, Scout ck.0. Either my sentinel is dead.
i like burritos.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
149
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:46:00 -
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Abraham Baby Fish wrote:843-Vika wrote:Abraham Baby Fish wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles english please, espically since this is english forums....if you can't respect us enough to post in way we understand then STFU and GTFO "espically"
whoop dee doo, I miss spelled 1 word |
Abraham Baby Fish
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
28
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Posted - 2014.07.28 22:48:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:Abraham Baby Fish wrote:843-Vika wrote:Abraham Baby Fish wrote:Luna McDuffing wrote:I'm all for balancing and tweaks because it makes for a better experience. For example reducing the power of the combat rifle y two percent and raising the assault by 3%. I still prefer the combat rifle. The scout dampening nerf was also needed. The cloak was way overpower with the 25% across the board. The way it is now makes sense and by the way I use the caldari scout and occasionally the minmatar scout. Yes, I'm all for things like that. What I disagree on is when something is taken away. I think they changed their minds on the ammar logi but, taking away the sidearm would had make me very mad. I don't use anything ammar but I found it unfair. I rather they have two suit types 1 with a side arm and one without than taking ht sidearm away. The list of examples go on and on. You skill into certain suits or weapons for a reason. I don't think is fair to take what made your setup special after you spent so much time building it base on the rules they originally set up. coalichicas en el foro ingles english please, espically since this is english forums....if you can't respect us enough to post in way we understand then STFU and GTFO "espically" whoop dee doo, I miss spelled 1 word seems legit
Proudly a baby fish and a caldari loyalist.
Sentinel ck.0, Scout ck.0. Either my sentinel is dead.
i like burritos.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1142
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Posted - 2014.07.28 23:07:00 -
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ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Stop it! This games already somewhat balanced. And no more op threads either youre confusing the hell out of the devs, im sure.
they've been confused this entire time it's why their new development strategy is 100% dependent on "feedback" aka noob rants and nerf calls. good luck with this message because i've been saying it for 2+ years now.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Abraham Baby Fish
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
28
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Posted - 2014.07.28 23:16:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Stop it! This games already somewhat balanced. And no more op threads either youre confusing the hell out of the devs, im sure. they've been confused this entire time it's why their new development strategy is 100% dependent on "feedback" aka noob rants and nerf calls. good luck with this message because i've been saying it for 2+ years now. yes yes yes!
Proudly a baby fish and a caldari loyalist.
Sentinel ck.0, Scout ck.0,Assault Ck.0 HMG Prof V,RR Prof V
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ACT1ON BASTARD
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:49:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:56:00 -
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Atiim wrote:ACT1ON BASTARD wrote:Atiim wrote:When the game becomes perfectly balanced, then sure. Itll only be balanced when people stop saying things are op. Its an endless cycle.What would be an absolute balanced game to you? Well,
- When every item has to make a proportionate sacrifice for each gain.
- When every weapon has a TTK involving a reasonable tradeoff between range and DPS.
- When every role is perfectly viable, with none being completely superior than the other.
- When every weapon is perfectly viable, and all perform reasonably well within it's intended niche.
- When every item has a purpose, and a use in a preferred situation.
- When every tactic/item has a reasonably successful counter barring itself.
- When no Dropsuit can fit both PRO Modules & PRO Weaponry without sacrifices.
- WP/D Matchmaking
That's a perfectly balanced game.
Read: When tanks are removed from the game so my AV can win.
THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
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