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Crownrule Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:06:00 - [1] - Quote This may sound like a stupid request but I think it would be a great idea to introduce a server where you can roleplay with other people, it would be the same except only people from the same faction are allowed to play with eachother, like if youre and amarr you can only be on the amarr side, whule the gallente would play on the gallente faction. It would bring some more life in the game and make it even more exciting "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1250	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:19:00 - [2] - Quote So whom are you roleplaying against if no one else is allowed? Single universe, best universe. /c DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Crownrule Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:36:00 - [3] - Quote Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
castba Merc-0107 525	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:39:00 - [4] - Quote Crownrule wrote: Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be?
Scoota Eu Haus of Triage 95	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:40:00 - [5] - Quote It's called Faction Warfare mate ;) There are a few RP groups out there but they're stronger on the EVE side.
Crownrule Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.23 09:41:00 - [6] - Quote castba wrote: Crownrule wrote: Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? This is roleplay where players basically inherit their characters personality or how they see fit and just have a good time and act like the factions personality, like in intergalactic summit "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3953	Posted - 2014.07.23 10:31:00 - [7] - Quote Just make a Role Play Corp and only accept applications from Amarr. Then play faction warfare in Corp squads and Que Sync. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12140	Posted - 2014.07.23 10:41:00 - [8] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Just make a Role Play Corp and only accept applications from Amarr. Then play faction warfare in Corp squads and Que Sync. Ehem...... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 242	Posted - 2014.07.23 11:08:00 - [9] - Quote It's been said before, FW and Corps. As for a whole other server... Tranquility is the only server CCP uses. It has both EVE AND Dust players in it. Some RP some don't. Things are fine as is. Legionhares Unite!
Nrabatar Zorig Nos Nothi 180	Posted - 2014.07.23 11:17:00 - [10] - Quote Segregating an already small RP population into another server would only serve to make it even smaller, and I'd be pretty sure that you would be looking at 30 minute long queue times and basically barely anyone playing. And as others have said, your whole idea is covered pretty much by FW and RP focused corps. Just, no. Forget the whole idea. Shaman Zorig of the Vherokior Tribe

Crownrule Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.23 11:35:00 - [11] - Quote It was just a suggestion "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 10854	Posted - 2014.07.23 13:23:00 - [12] - Quote If your looking for a good Amarrian RP Corporation, I'd go with PCLAS. Once a ScRub, always a sCRub. -HAND
Immortal John Ripper 22457	Posted - 2014.07.23 13:25:00 - [13] - Quote I hate how the Amarr are the ONLY good RP race. I mean Amarr FTW but it gets lonely at the top. Why do minmatar players have to suck as much as their characters?!? Only I can master the 4 races and bring balance to this galaxy - GJR The Last Clone bender I am the Alpha and the Omega
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5713	Posted - 2014.07.23 14:50:00 - [14] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: It's been said before, FW and Corps. As for a whole other server... Tranquility is the only server CCP uses. It has both EVE AND Dust players in it. Some RP some don't. Things are fine as is. There's also a test server I forgot the name of. Dust was on it during closed beta. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 132	Posted - 2014.07.23 16:15:00 - [15] - Quote Immortal John Ripper wrote: I hate how the Amarr are the ONLY good RP race. I mean Amarr FTW but it gets lonely at the top. Why do minmatar players have to suck as much as their characters?!? being constantly called slave garbage kinda sucks and its sometimes hard to tell if some are actually roleplaying from time to time... so i just squad with friends and talk about boobs and food. Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader \| Yep Squad Spokesman
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 115	Posted - 2014.07.23 16:19:00 - [16] - Quote castba wrote: Crownrule wrote: Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? faction warefare allows any faction to fight for any side.... what the OP is suggesting a way that only amarr fight against the other factions......it would be based off of the faction you chose when you started DUST......
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2351	Posted - 2014.07.23 16:51:00 - [17] - Quote Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Beh!
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3954	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:05:00 - [18] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I hate how the Amarr are the ONLY good RP race. I mean Amarr FTW but it gets lonely at the top. Why do minmatar players have to suck as much as their characters?!? being constantly called slave garbage kinda sucks and its sometimes hard to tell if some are actually roleplaying from time to time... so i just squad with friends and talk about boobs and food. Minmatar have a tribal vibe going which is very reminiscent on Native American culture, along with a whole tattoo component reminiscent of some South Pacific tribes. Their religion is sort of interesting too. The whole ex-slave and freedom fighter thing is layered on top of that tribal background. Minmatar would be a very interesting race to role play, but you would probably have to read a bit of the EVE lore to really understand them. They were not so primitive technologically when the Amarr found them either. The acceleration gates in EVE missions were invented by the Minmatar. I donGÇÖt actively Role Play myself, but I know how my Caldari characters fit into the EVE universe, and I do have a bit of a backstory. You can look up Renier GadenGÇÖs bio if you are interested. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 2222	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:08:00 - [19] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. That sounds too much like a "set bonus" from other triple-A MMO's. It would discourage diversity through game mechanics; if you aren't joining racially specific squads/gear then you are handicapping yourself. I don't see this getting implemented. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
RendonaSix Algintal Core Gallente Federation 193	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:19:00 - [20] - Quote I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente. It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. It would be a grand sight as well, amarr and minmatar going at it. Vehicles would have to simply be allowed as we don't have racial variants. Anyway this is just a fart in the wind, people have shown in dust that they don't want a variety of options or anything that offers something a bit different to other stuff, just the same crap with different names. Just like PC, every idea that would have had it offer anything different was shot down in favour of what we have now, a more time consuming version of skirmish with almost zero connection with eve. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"

843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 116	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:44:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. That sounds too much like a "set bonus" from other triple-A MMO's. It would discourage diversity through game mechanics; if you aren't joining racially specific squads/gear then you are handicapping yourself. I don't see this getting implemented. I could see a version of FW where if your race/suit/weapons/mods all match then you get a bonus from end game results. That might be a little more fun in FW but its just my personal opinion
RendonaSix Algintal Core Gallente Federation 195	Posted - 2014.07.23 17:51:00 - [22] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. That sounds too much like a "set bonus" from other triple-A MMO's. It would discourage diversity through game mechanics; if you aren't joining racially specific squads/gear then you are handicapping yourself. I don't see this getting implemented. I could see a version of FW where if your race/suit/weapons/mods all match then you get a bonus from end game results. That might be a little more fun in FW but its just my personal opinion At least this, this would be a step to making it more 'immersive'. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3954	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:32:00 - [23] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. Would make sense as a modifier on how fast you earn faction standing. It would take racial prejudicious into account. It would make sense that the Amarr Empire would be quicker to gain trust in an Amarrian using a Laser Rifle than a Gellente using a Combat Rifle. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12150	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:49:00 - [24] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: I hate how the Amarr are the ONLY good RP race. I mean Amarr FTW but it gets lonely at the top. Why do minmatar players have to suck as much as their characters?!? being constantly called slave garbage kinda sucks and its sometimes hard to tell if some are actually roleplaying from time to time... so i just squad with friends and talk about boobs and food. That's pretty much exactly what we do as well. It's hilarious that people think we take this RP buisness as serious as they think we do.... "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12150	Posted - 2014.07.23 20:49:00 - [25] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. Would make sense as a modifier on how fast you earn faction standing. It would take racial prejudicious into account. It would make sense that the Amarr Empire would be quicker to gain trust in an Amarrian using a Laser Rifle than a Gellente using a Combat Rifle. That doesn't make sense. He means in the sense that an Amarrian dropsuit is designed to interface with Amarrian weapons systems. That does make sense. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1557	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:05:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. Would make sense as a modifier on how fast you earn faction standing. It would take racial prejudicious into account. It would make sense that the Amarr Empire would be quicker to gain trust in an Amarrian using a Laser Rifle than a Gellente using a Combat Rifle. That doesn't make sense. He means in the sense that an Amarrian dropsuit is designed to interface with Amarrian weapons systems. That does make sense. We already have this in the form of role/class bonuses that apply to the respective racial equivalent of [primary class tool] the most. Unless you meant general bonuses on top of that just for matching racial gear. Then we're back to "set bonuses" that artificially stifle fitting freedom. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3954	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:07:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. Would make sense as a modifier on how fast you earn faction standing. It would take racial prejudicious into account. It would make sense that the Amarr Empire would be quicker to gain trust in an Amarrian using a Laser Rifle than a Gellente using a Combat Rifle. That doesn't make sense. He means in the sense that an Amarrian dropsuit is designed to interface with Amarrian weapons systems. That does make sense. I have no idea what you are talking about... What does weapons systems interfacing have to do with points? I assumed he was talking about Loyalty Points. I was saying it would be better applied to Standing. I donGÇÖt see what weapons systems have to do with Loyalty Points. That would be more a War Point thing. Was he talking about War Points? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12151	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:10:00 - [28] - Quote Malkai Inos wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Simple. Racial purity bonus. The more your gear matches your chosen race, the more points you get. The more your squad matches racially, same thing. Ditto for Team inside a match. Well, simple in comparison to other things. Would make sense as a modifier on how fast you earn faction standing. It would take racial prejudicious into account. It would make sense that the Amarr Empire would be quicker to gain trust in an Amarrian using a Laser Rifle than a Gellente using a Combat Rifle. That doesn't make sense. He means in the sense that an Amarrian dropsuit is designed to interface with Amarrian weapons systems. That does make sense. We already have this in the form of role/class bonuses that apply to the respective racial equivalent of [primary class tool] the most. Unless you meant general bonuses on top of that just for matching racial gear. Then we're back to "set bonuses" that artificially stifle fitting freedom. No I don't mean over arcing bonuses. Each suit should have a singular shared role bonus, then a singular secondary racial bonus that influence "how that role is carried out". Beyond that it doesn't stifle any freedom. I-Shayz-I is still free to put a Freedom Mass Driver on his Amarr Commando and go 57/1 I am still free to put X weapon on Y suit and use it to 100% of that suit and weapons normal capacity, however if I use the corresponding weapon on the corresponding suit I get modifiers. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 120	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:11:00 - [29] - Quote To be honest this would truly be able to work if we had racial types for all weapons,,,,,,,Im a min scout but i to use the SG some times and if i were to go into this type of game this would give me no bonus towards it. Now if there was a min version of the SG then it wouldn't matter....... Still waiting for the ability to throw my nova knives, since we getting ones that damage tanks now, we should get ones we can throw as well lol
RendonaSix Algintal Core Gallente Federation 196	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:12:00 - [30] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: To be honest this would truly be able to work if we had racial types for all weapons,,,,,,,Im a min scout but i to use the SG some times and if i were to go into this type of game this would give me no bonus towards it. Now if there was a min version of the SG then it wouldn't matter....... Still waiting for the ability to throw my nova knives, since we getting ones that damage tanks now, we should get ones we can throw as well lol Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12151	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:19:00 - [31] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: 843-Vika wrote: To be honest this would truly be able to work if we had racial types for all weapons,,,,,,,Im a min scout but i to use the SG some times and if i were to go into this type of game this would give me no bonus towards it. Now if there was a min version of the SG then it wouldn't matter....... Still waiting for the ability to throw my nova knives, since we getting ones that damage tanks now, we should get ones we can throw as well lol Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious. This is how I see Scout Nova Knifers with their Anti Armour Knives...... http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Hormagaunt Horrifying. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 121	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:22:00 - [32] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious. I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw
RendonaSix Algintal Core Gallente Federation 198	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:25:00 - [33] - Quote 843-Vika wrote: RendonaSix wrote: Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious. I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw I can picture a squad of scouts jumping all over a tank and stabbing it up. Like a group of velociraptor dinosaurs. I like it a lot. kisses knives "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 123	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:38:00 - [34] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: 843-Vika wrote: RendonaSix wrote: Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious. I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw I can picture a squad of scouts jumping all over a tank and stabbing it up. Like a group of velociraptor dinosaurs. I like it a lot. kisses knives Minninja running duel nova knives......one for trhe tank drivers and one for the tank.......best OP scouts yet
Denak Kalamari 1601	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:38:00 - [35] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente. It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it. You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic. On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do. My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and are definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight all the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four. Farewell.
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1559	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:42:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: No I don't mean over arcing bonuses. Each suit should have a singular shared role bonus, then a singular secondary racial bonus that influence "how that role is carried out". Isn't this what we have. If not, where's the difference? (genuine question because I'd say this sentence aligns with the current system) True Adamance wrote: Beyond that it doesn't stifle any freedom. I-Shayz-I is still free to put a Freedom Mass Driver on his Amarr Commando and go 57/1 I am still free to put X weapon on Y suit and use it to 100% of that suit and weapons normal capacity, however if I use the corresponding weapon on the corresponding suit I get modifiers. 100% stops being the 100% as soon as use introduce 105% (so to speak) into the environment. Fits don't operate in a vacuum. They compete against each other so that giving a certain combination "bonuses" for being racially matched is functionally identical to giving the other combination a "malus" for being racially mixed. Suddenly your fit's power comes not just from the sum of its parts and how well they synergize with each other and your playstile. There is also this outside modifier that makes your suit better or worse depending on "purity", not because the more "pure" fit is inherently better, but because this outside modifier makes it better. That's the basic problem with set-items and how they do, in fact stifle, freedom. You cannot just exchange one item for another that, on its own, would a better choice if it turns out you'll lose your "bonus" doing so which eats up the benefit of the exchange in the first place. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
RendonaSix Algintal Core Gallente Federation 200	Posted - 2014.07.23 21:47:00 - [37] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: RendonaSix wrote: I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente. It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it. You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic. On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do. My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four. Yeah I know, thanks I guess. I'd just like to actually see some of that actual factional warfare that we see in the videos. "For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
Crownrule The Impure Legion 3	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:25:00 - [38] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: RendonaSix wrote: I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente. It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it. You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic. On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do. My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and are definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight all the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four. when I RP my character is with the khanid kingdom, their is still amarr influence but the fact that he was raised as a khanid dictates what he believes in and what he does, this was a good post "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6681	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:45:00 - [39] - Quote Crownrule wrote: castba wrote: Crownrule wrote: Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? This is roleplay where players basically inherit their characters personality or how they see fit and just have a good time and act like the factions personality, like in intergalactic summit I rarely break character on these forums. see you space cowboy...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12159	Posted - 2014.07.23 23:49:00 - [40] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Crownrule wrote: castba wrote: Crownrule wrote: Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? This is roleplay where players basically inherit their characters personality or how they see fit and just have a good time and act like the factions personality, like in intergalactic summit I rarely break character on these forums. Yeah Kirk is a bit of a ***..... Federal dog to the core! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon*

Denak Kalamari 1601	Posted - 2014.07.24 08:50:00 - [41] - Quote RendonaSix wrote: Yeah I know, thanks I guess. I'd just like to actually see some of that actual factional warfare that we see in the videos. What videos? As far as I know, FW has always been nothing more than a way for capsuleers and recently dusters to get some exclusive gear which they'll then use on their own operations outside the Empyrean War, and most trailers published about DUST and EVE inter-connectivity is about player corporations and alliances working together on both DUST and EVE side to capture some territory, outside of the scope of FW. Farewell.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4510	Posted - 2014.07.24 08:52:00 - [42] - Quote Crownrule wrote: This may sound like a stupid request but I think it would be a great idea to introduce a server where you can roleplay with other people, it would be the same except only people from the same faction are allowed to play with eachother, like if youre and amarr you can only be on the amarr side, whule the gallente would play on the gallente faction. It would bring some more life in the game and make it even more exciting Not only does it sound like a stupid request, it, in fact, is a stupid request. But thank you for sharing. In the future, please don't.


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