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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:19:00 -
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RendonaSix wrote:843-Vika wrote:To be honest this would truly be able to work if we had racial types for all weapons,,,,,,,Im a min scout but i to use the SG some times and if i were to go into this type of game this would give me no bonus towards it.
Now if there was a min version of the SG then it wouldn't matter.......
Still waiting for the ability to throw my nova knives, since we getting ones that damage tanks now, we should get ones we can throw as well lol Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av. This would be hilarious.
This is how I see Scout Nova Knifers with their Anti Armour Knives......
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Hormagaunt
Horrifying.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
121
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:22:00 -
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RendonaSix wrote:
Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av.
This would be hilarious.
I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw |
RendonaSix
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
198
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:25:00 -
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843-Vika wrote:RendonaSix wrote:
Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av.
This would be hilarious.
I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw
I can picture a squad of scouts jumping all over a tank and stabbing it up.
Like a group of velociraptor dinosaurs.
I like it a lot.
*kisses knives*
"For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
123
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:38:00 -
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RendonaSix wrote:843-Vika wrote:RendonaSix wrote:
Oh my god, 6 scouts chucking knives at tanks for av.
This would be hilarious.
I would love it and I believe it would **** off tankers to high heaven to see a kill feed the showed a nova knife killed it.......and ADS gunners along with LAV drivers will scream that they got killed by a knife throw I can picture a squad of scouts jumping all over a tank and stabbing it up. Like a group of velociraptor dinosaurs. I like it a lot. *kisses knives*
Minninja running duel nova knives......one for trhe tank drivers and one for the tank.......best OP scouts yet
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Denak Kalamari
1601
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:38:00 -
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RendonaSix wrote:I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente.
It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it.
You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic.
On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do.
My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and are definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight all the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four.
Farewell.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1559
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:No I don't mean over arcing bonuses.
Each suit should have a singular shared role bonus, then a singular secondary racial bonus that influence "how that role is carried out". Isn't this what we have. If not, where's the difference? (genuine question because I'd say this sentence aligns with the current system)
True Adamance wrote:Beyond that it doesn't stifle any freedom. I-Shayz-I is still free to put a Freedom Mass Driver on his Amarr Commando and go 57/1 I am still free to put X weapon on Y suit and use it to 100% of that suit and weapons normal capacity, however if I use the corresponding weapon on the corresponding suit I get modifiers. 100% stops being the 100% as soon as use introduce 105% (so to speak) into the environment.
Fits don't operate in a vacuum. They compete against each other so that giving a certain combination "bonuses" for being racially matched is functionally identical to giving the other combination a "malus" for being racially mixed.
Suddenly your fit's power comes not just from the sum of its parts and how well they synergize with each other and your playstile. There is also this outside modifier that makes your suit better or worse depending on "purity", not because the more "pure" fit is inherently better, but because this outside modifier makes it better.
That's the basic problem with set-items and how they do, in fact stifle, freedom. You cannot just exchange one item for another that, on its own, would a better choice if it turns out you'll lose your "bonus" doing so which eats up the benefit of the exchange in the first place.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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RendonaSix
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2014.07.23 21:47:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:RendonaSix wrote:I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente.
It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it. You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic. On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do. My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four.
Yeah I know, thanks I guess.
I'd just like to actually see some of that actual factional warfare that we see in the videos.
"For those who have seen the light, repentance you shall find, for within the heart of battle, scum you shall grind"
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Crownrule
The Impure Legion
3
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Posted - 2014.07.23 22:25:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:RendonaSix wrote:I'd prefer fw to limit players to the chosen factions gear regardless of balance, it'd give those of us who really appreciate the lore a place to go. Not player chosen race but who they are fighting for as that really would be crap as I regret picking gallente.
It wouldnt appeal to others but they are just there for lp anyway, they don't actually appreciate the lore. Its mostly just a farm so people can stomp pubs in a cheaper manner or for farming items for PC. I just want to pop in and say that all RP does not and should not revolve only around the four big empires when there's a myriad of smaller factions with their own independent agendas. I've been in the Intaki Liberation Front for a year now, with it's own goals completely separated from the empires and I love it. You have to keep in mind that most capsuleers and dusters are freelancers and mercenaries still with no real loyalty to the empires they originated from. It is a perfectly valid lore reason to be running faction warfare only for the rewards it provides, or being "just there for lp". Restricting gear like this would only stifle FW in general. I should also point out that the whole Empyrean War conflict is not really an actual war but rather a way to stop the already tense relations between the empires escalate to a full size war, but that's a whole other topic. On top of that in New Eden, CCP has endorsed that everything is RP. Those large conflicts in nullsec happening between huge coalitions of alliances is canon just as much as the lowly miner shooting rocks in highsec for ISK or a duster completing a public contract. While that merc running FW just to get LP to buy neat gear may not be actively trying to do RP, what he is doing is still RP. That's what I did throughout my entire dust career and it was perfectly valid from a lore point of view, which I was actively trying to do. My point is that simply focusing on FW as a medium to encourage RP would just be a disservice to all the various other groups inhabiting New Eden who do not participate in FW. The pirate corporations, mercenary cells, cults, non-profit organizations, criminal syndicates, player corporations and many others all dot the universe with their rich history and relations between one another, and are definitely worth exploring in an RP environment. If we want to encourage RP and embrace the lore, we should highlight all the rich and varied people and groups of New Eden, not just the big four. when I RP my character is with the khanid kingdom, their is still amarr influence but the fact that he was raised as a khanid dictates what he believes in and what he does, this was a good post
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6681
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:45:00 -
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Crownrule wrote:castba wrote:Crownrule wrote:Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? This is roleplay where players basically inherit their characters personality or how they see fit and just have a good time and act like the factions personality, like in intergalactic summit I rarely break character on these forums.
see you space cowboy...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
12159
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Posted - 2014.07.23 23:49:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Crownrule wrote:castba wrote:Crownrule wrote:Im talking about players would play on their faction against rival factions Isn't that what FW is supposed to be? This is roleplay where players basically inherit their characters personality or how they see fit and just have a good time and act like the factions personality, like in intergalactic summit I rarely break character on these forums.
Yeah Kirk is a bit of a ****..... Federal dog to the core!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Denak Kalamari
1601
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Posted - 2014.07.24 08:50:00 -
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RendonaSix wrote:Yeah I know, thanks I guess.
I'd just like to actually see some of that actual factional warfare that we see in the videos. What videos? As far as I know, FW has always been nothing more than a way for capsuleers and recently dusters to get some exclusive gear which they'll then use on their own operations outside the Empyrean War, and most trailers published about DUST and EVE inter-connectivity is about player corporations and alliances working together on both DUST and EVE side to capture some territory, outside of the scope of FW.
Farewell.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
4510
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Posted - 2014.07.24 08:52:00 -
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Crownrule wrote:This may sound like a stupid request but I think it would be a great idea to introduce a server where you can roleplay with other people, it would be the same except only people from the same faction are allowed to play with eachother, like if youre and amarr you can only be on the amarr side, whule the gallente would play on the gallente faction. It would bring some more life in the game and make it even more exciting
Not only does it sound like a stupid request, it, in fact, is a stupid request.
But thank you for sharing. In the future, please don't. |
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