Face of mankind.

This game is very much like eve in the fact that you literally have to make a point for yourself.

The graphics are dated and the mechanics are a bit clunky, the progression is time based like eve as well and every eve player I have met that plays it enjoys it and inadvertently, eve is advertised in game because of the sandbox similarities.

This game is great to draw ideas from, its also free on steam for anyone to try but be warned, like eve, its hard to get into. Its currently re released as early access although its a full game as they want to build upon it.

Also much like eve, it gets better the more time you invest in it. It is not a pick up and pwn game.

Well, apart that CCP not really like to see advertising other games here, could you mention at least one game where your progression is not based on time?

Its a great game to draw ideas from and time based is different to grind based. This isn't even advertising a game as such and its been here all day. CCP has made it clear that they are not sure where legion is going yet so drawing upon other games for ideas will definitely spark some imagination.

Time based - skills are queued and level up over time. Nothing you do can impact the speed at which it levels up and each level up takes longer. This assures that people with a life can still enjoy the game.

Here's an example

X skill level 1 = 5 mins to level 1
X skill level 2 = 30 mins to level 2
X skill level 3 = 2 hours to level 3
X skill level 4 = 1 day to level 4
X skill level 5 = 9 days to level 5

Exactly the same mechanic as eve.



Grind based - nearly every other mmo ever made, no play, no gain. So you either no life or fall through the cracks.

X skill level 1 = 5 mins to level 1
X skill level 2 = 30 mins to level 2
X skill level 3 = 2 hours to level 3
X skill level 4 = 1 day to level 4
X skill level 5 = 9 days to level 5

Exactly the same mechanic as eve.

Close, but in eve you can speed up this process with learning implants or by changing your attributes base values.

It's easier for Devs to pick individual idea here, rather then looking for it somewhere elsewhere.. You know, it takes some time to download game, install it, then play it for next 10 days in order to search for that 'cool thing' that you have in mind. If you have cool idea on Legion, some mechanic that it could have, introduce it rather then pointing out direction for source.

As far as EVE attributes go, each skill has a primary and secondary attribute. The rate of SP for the trained skill is primary attribute+1/2*secondary attribute=SP/minute

So if you have more perception and willpower you train those skills faster (gunnery, spaceship command, ect.) than you would train other skills (armor, navigation, science, ect.). Implants raise your attributes, thus train skills faster.

Some advice, since you're newer stick with either the base attributes you're given or remap to primarily perception and intelligence. You will be bouncing around a lot training core support skills and gunnery/command skills too often to warrant a more specialized remap until you can fly a BC reasonably well in PvP SP wise (not that you'll be doing that often, but that's a good benchmark to start thinking about more specialized and long term training plans.)


I'm actually more of a fan of DUST's SP system, where you gain SP over time and then use it to level up a skill, rather than choosing something from the start like EVE. I'm pretty much used to it in EVE at this point, but in an FPS it just feels better with an SP pool.

It disgusts me how non-devious these players are. I might have to teach them a thing or 2.

For example, Berlin holds what in my opinion is the most valuable mining area in the game. However, the faction controlling it doesn't so much as post armed guards to protect it, much less exact tolls on miners from other factions.